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Unfortunately I feel like they’ll do something to the Kennedy before he’ll get to run. I firmly believe there is someone who makes it their duty so that they never reach the pinnicale again. Too many of them died due to excruciating circumstances.
Highly doubt it. John and Bobby got murked because the family crossed the mob. The same mob they had dealings with and got their fortune
 
-Let me guess, you didn't read the polling data, instead you are rely on a conservative news paper to frame the answers to the questions. I don't find the wording in the link you posted btw

This is why he's barely graduating community college in his 25th year of post-high school education. Must've failed every essay he's ever written by citing Breitbart, Washington Beacon, Nore, and Tony Yayo until the professors felt pity for him and gave him a passing grade
 
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-Let me guess, you didn't read the polling data, instead you are rely on a conservative news paper to frame the answers to the questions. I don't find the wording in the link you posted btw

The respondents were not asked if want a reduction, they were asked what levels they found appropriate. That is a different question. We have no idea if the respondents know current levels.

you're playing semantics, da fact of da matter is these folks want less legal immigration...

spare me "conservative framing"..NPR got da same numbers...

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-immigration-polls-do-and-dont-say
 
you're playing semantics, da fact of da matter is these folks want less legal immigration...

spare me "conservative framing"..NPR got da same numbers...

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-immigration-polls-do-and-dont-say
You clearly did not read this article either

Sheesh :smh:

It basically takes about measurement error in polling because of wording of the question. Someone we are trying to point out to you. It is also refuting the Trump Administration's rhetoric.

My god, please read.
 
You clearly did not read this article either

It is true that 68 percent of Americans said they oppose "the lottery that randomly picks 50,000 people to enter the U.S. each year for greater diversity." And in fact, even more (79 percent) favored merit-based immigration over family-based migration, based on a question asking whether "immigration priority for those coming to the U.S. should be based on a person's ability to contribute to America as measured by their education and skills or based on a person having relatives in the U.S."

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-immigration-polls-do-and-dont-say
 
Dude it is not the numbers that is the issue. It is that your don't know enough about basic polling to properly interpret them.

You wanted to throw shade at African Americans, they African Americans polling data seem to show they are more pro immigration than even Hispanics.

It is true that 68 percent of Americans said they oppose "the lottery that randomly picks 50,000 people to enter the U.S. each year for greater diversity." And in fact, even more (79 percent) favored merit-based immigration over family-based migration, based on a question asking whether "immigration priority for those coming to the U.S. should be based on a person's ability to contribute to America as measured by their education and skills or based on a person having relatives in the U.S."

https://www.npr.org/2018/01/23/580037717/what-the-latest-immigration-polls-do-and-dont-say
I already addressed this.

African Americans favor this diversity lottery more than any other groups.

PAGE 72, of the Harvard Poll you coted shows support at: 30% for whites, 39% for Hispanics, 43% for African Americans, 14% for other.
 
I hope a dreamer murders satorum in his sleep
YIKES

This was just for the irony of it. He is so hellbent on painting this apocalyptic picture of evil, murderous immigrants terrorizing our streets, so it would be kind of funny if it were true.

But I agree with Rusty. Let him live a long, long life.
 
48 percent want to limit legal immigration to 1-250k

Hispanics were 38 percent....

you were saying?
Nice cherry pick, but how about......

-40% of Hispanics approve of the Job Trump is doing on immigration, only 10% of African Americans approve.

-13% of African Americans want immigration to be over 2.5 million a year, only 1% of Hispanics want that level

-72% of African Americans favor the Dems shutting down the government over DACA only 46% of Hispanics approve.

you were saying?

So please, spare me and this thread your attempt to slander African Americans as being just as xenophobic as the Bigoted Politician you support. It is simply not the case

And again, the point on the numbers you cited is that people may be ignorant of current levels.
 
So please, spare me and this thread your attempt to slander African Americans as being just as xenophobic as the Bigoted Politician you support. It is simply not the case

numbers beg to differ...no amount of spin
is gonna hide that.

im willing to bet if Democrats cave to Republicans on ending chain migration i can point to constituents in da African American caucuses who thought it would be a good idea to "boost stagnant/lagging wages for blacks" by limiting "low skilled workers from Latin America depressing wages and increasing competition" for letting it happen.
 
I sure they will exist, but that will be like pointing to a hand full of Black conservatives to say the African American community agree with the GOP's civil rights policies.

But that doesn't mean the average African American voter will feel that way. They damn sure will not reward the GOP at the polls.

So once again, you are letting basic statistics run you a fade.
 
I sure they will exist, but that will be like pointing to a hand full of Black conservatives to say the African American community agree with the GOP's civil rights policies.

you're being disingenuous, and deflecting.

if immigration reform is gonna pass, it'll do so by Democratic compromise (60 votes total..9 dems min to join GOP majority)...if by compromise they cave on chain migration, it'll because certain Democrats in da black caucus representative precincts decided to process those Harvard Harris polls and understand where their bread is getting buttered.
 
you're being disingenuous, and deflecting.
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Well if this ain't the pot calling the kettle Dominicano

-Dude please, look at the centrist Senators that might vote with the GOP (many that are up for election this year), and what states they represent.Also black people overwhelming support shutting down the government over DACA. You keep ignoring that

You are making no sense, all this is mental gymnastics to blame black people for Trump's bigotry and xenophobia.

But yeah, that is part of your shtick when it comes to black people, so I am not surprised.
 
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-Dude please, look at the centrist that might vote with the GOP (many that are up for election this year), and what states they represent. You are making no sense.

so you shouldn't be afraid of a lil wager...if dems cave on chain migration, i already told you where da fault line is gonna take place.
 
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