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Bless you Nasty Woman.
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Take the “easy way out” Trump and his supports. It’ll be worth it
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Imagine actually donating to this
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Trump claimed on Fox that there couldn’t be a campaign violation because the payment came from him and not the campaign.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...trumps-supporters-think-of-corruption/568147/
Why Trump Supporters Believe He Is Not Corrupt
What the president’s supporters fear most isn’t the corruption of American law, but the corruption of America’s traditional identity.
PETER BEINART
LEAH MILLIS / REUTERS
On Wednesday morning, the lead story on FoxNews.com was not Michael Cohen’s admission that Donald Trump had instructed him to violate campaign-finance laws by paying hush money to two of Trump’s mistresses. It was the alleged murder of a white Iowa woman, Mollie Tibbetts, by an undocumented Latino immigrant, Cristhian Rivera.
On their face, the two stories have little in common. Fox is simply covering the Iowa murder because it distracts attention from a revelation that makes Trump look bad. But dig deeper and the two stories are connected: They represent competing notions of what corruption is.
Cohen’s admission highlights one of the enduring riddles of the Trump era. Trump’s supporters say they care about corruption. During the campaign, they cheered his vow to “drain the swamp” in Washington, D.C. When Morning Consult asked Americans in May 2016 to explain why they disliked Hillary Clinton, the second-most-common answer was that she was “corrupt.” And yet, Trump supporters appear largely unfazed by the mounting evidence that Trump is the least ethical president in modern American history. When asked last month whether they considered Trump corrupt, only 14 percent of Republicans said yes. Even Cohen’s allegation is unlikely to change that.
The answer may lie in how Trump and his supporters define corruption. In a forthcoming book titled How Fascism Works, the Yale philosophy professor Jason Stanley makes an intriguing claim. “Corruption, to the fascist politician,” he suggests, “is really about the corruption of purity rather than of the law. Officially, the fascist politician’s denunciations of corruption sound like a denunciation of political corruption. But such talk is intended to evoke corruption in the sense of the usurpation of the traditional order.”
Fox’s decision to focus on the Iowa murder rather than Cohen’s guilty plea illustrates Stanley’s point. In the eyes of many Fox viewers, I suspect, the network isn’t ignoring corruption so much as highlighting the kind that really matters. When Trump instructed Cohen to pay off women with whom he’d had affairs, he may have been violating the law. But he was upholding traditional gender and class hierarchies. Since time immemorial, powerful men have been cheating on their wives and using their power to evade the consequences.
The Iowa murder, by contrast, signifies the inversion—the corruption—of that “traditional order.” Throughout American history, few notions have been as sacrosanct as the belief that white women must be protected from nonwhite men. By allegedly murdering Tibbetts, Rivera did not merely violate the law. He did something more subversive: He violated America’s traditional racial and sexual norms.
Trump’s supporters honor the American tradition of discrimination.
Once you grasp that for Trump and many of his supporters, corruption means less the violation of law than the violation of established hierarchies, their behavior makes more sense. Since 2014, Trump has employed the phrase rule of law nine times in tweets. Seven of them refer to illegal immigration.
Why were Trump’s supporters so convinced that Clinton was the more corrupt candidate even as reporters uncovered far more damning evidence about Trump’s foundation than they did about Clinton’s? Likely because Clinton’s candidacy threatened traditional gender roles. For many Americans, female ambition—especially in service of a feminist agenda—in and of itself represents a form of corruption. “When female politicians were described as power-seeking,” noted the Yale researchers Victoria Brescoll and Tyler Okimoto in a 2010 study, “participants experienced feelings of moral outrage (i.e., contempt, anger, and/or disgust).”
Cohen’s admission makes it harder for Republicans to claim that Trump didn’t violate the law. But it doesn’t really matter. For many Republicans, Trump remains uncorrupt—indeed, anticorrupt—because what they fear most isn’t the corruption of American law; it’s the corruption of America’s traditional identity. And in the struggle against that form of corruption—the kind embodied by Cristhian Rivera—Trump isn’t the problem. He’s the solution.
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Not even surprised that this Biscuit Boy has sexual harassment allegations.
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I was going to post about this theme that conservatives’ highest principles, indeed their only constant principle, is hierarchy, it’s preservation and its expansion.
Everything else that they claim to hold dear: Christianity, the American State, the American military, rule of law, limited government, tradition, free trade and even capitalism are either window dressing or are a means to an end.
Donald Trump’s Presidency has simply made clear what has been true for decades, all that matters is the beneficiaries maintaining their power and ruthlessly reclaim the little bit of power that decades of liberalism (low case “l” here) forced them to relinquish.
Everything else that they claim to hold dear: Christianity, the American State, the American military, rule of law, limited government, tradition, free trade and even capitalism are either window dressing or are a means to an end.
Donald Trump’s Presidency has simply made clear what has been true for decades, all that matters is the beneficiaries maintaining their power and ruthlessly reclaim the little bit of power that decades of liberalism (low case “l” here) forced them to relinquish.
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Da Libbies, yet again, are stretching the rule of law to achieve what their policies and disjointed platform cant - beat capitalism and conservativism ...
First it was Obama manipulating the constitution to allow a tax to not be called a tax ... Now, actions that are clearly not campaign finance violations are suddenly campaign violations ... Truly sad ...
As history has often shown, this will come back to bite Democrats twice over ... In due time ...
Imagine spending all this time to squeeze Trump's circle, turning over every rock, finding something unrelated to anything remotely close to the intent of the investigation (tax evasion) and allowing a true scumbag to plead guilty to a violation that isn't a violation ... That is extortion ...
I know many of you dont like Trump ... I understand you are excited ... But please mark my words, this will damage the Democrats far more than this presidency ... Not only will Trump finish his term, but this precedent will cripple many Democratic candidates ...
First it was Obama manipulating the constitution to allow a tax to not be called a tax ... Now, actions that are clearly not campaign finance violations are suddenly campaign violations ... Truly sad ...
As history has often shown, this will come back to bite Democrats twice over ... In due time ...
Imagine spending all this time to squeeze Trump's circle, turning over every rock, finding something unrelated to anything remotely close to the intent of the investigation (tax evasion) and allowing a true scumbag to plead guilty to a violation that isn't a violation ... That is extortion ...
I know many of you dont like Trump ... I understand you are excited ... But please mark my words, this will damage the Democrats far more than this presidency ... Not only will Trump finish his term, but this precedent will cripple many Democratic candidates ...
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Yes, I am not surprised either that a handsome biscuit boy like Paris would get sexually harassed. It's awful that the victim of harassment gets punished but a dapper young man like Paris should know better than to saunter around the workplace looking like a snack.
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That’s why we are up for a fight until Trump threatens the “white” agenda.
Justice isn’t justice.
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That Trump endorsement in effect
The Libby Media trying to slow down da biscuit acquisition
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Probably the most inspiring and uplifting piece of news I've seen since Trump declared his candidacy for presidency in 2015.
There is hope after all.
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Your tears quench my thirst for justice. Cry some more.
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Only an idiot would think that this Cohen thing isn't ultimately about getting ironclad proof of treason/collusion by Trump with the Russians.
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This really gonna irk the entire hardcore white supremacist crowd.
I know Blco must be fuming right now.
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There's literally nothing related to collusion though lol ... You cant have "ironclad proof" if there is no proof even remotely related ... They are trying to manipulate a situation to fit a narrative by preying on a career criminal with a law degree ...
For a board that rails on the injustice system, you are watching a politically charged, conjured up case against someone, taking every liberty and shortcut to reach a predetermined conclusion ... It's a bit scary ...
That being said, none of this matters because Trump will not be impeached and he will continue to make America great again for 2 more years at least ...
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(a) Robert S. Mueller III is appointed t() serve as Specia] Counsel for the United States Justice Department
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).
(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
For the Trumpsexuals who continue to spew the "no collusion" talking points.
Winter is coming....
(b) The Special Counsel is authorized to conduct the investigation confinned by then-FBI Director James 8. Corney in testimony before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on March 20, 2017, including:
(i) any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and
(ii) any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and
(iii) any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a).
(c) If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.
For the Trumpsexuals who continue to spew the "no collusion" talking points.
Winter is coming....
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2018 Democratic Party slogan
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What are "violations that are not violations?" Can you give me a legal definition of the expression?
