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Pure votes don't win elections, she and her team knew this and she still failed to reach enough voters in battleground states, where the votes that matter are.
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Pure votes don't win elections, she and her team knew this and she still failed to reach enough voters in battleground states, where the votes that matter are.
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You are not gonna get through to famb.youngogjosh the electorate was conditioned with “both side-ism” via the media. Never underestimate how big that is/was. Let’s not also discount the forces of racism, BLACK-lash, mysoginy and stupidity as driving “last stand” reactionary voters.
Perfect storm.
Dude is all the way lost in the Bern sauce.
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I don't disagree at all, but Obama had most of those same forces going against him and yet he won in spite of them. He could mobilize voters when it mattered and that's something people namely Dems aren't holding Hillary accountable for.
Perfect storm.
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this 2 desks literally tell the story of this thing
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Obama had the director of the FBI interject 2 weeks before the general election?
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Yeah, I said how she ran her campaign was the biggest factor in her loss aside from the EC. I stand by that, and I gave the vast discrepancies in field offices between her and Obama’s two campaigns as an example of a serious campaign failure. How is that inconsistent with anything else I’ve said? I mean, we’re both giving our speculative opinions here. I don’t know what else you want.
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So Bernie supporters in here, you guys are cool with Sanders facing the same conditions Hillary faced in 2016.
Since there is an assumption that he could easily overcome those hurdles by simply campaigning in the Midwest more.
Like if the FBI drops a bomb on him right before the election. A couple more field offices in Wisconsin gonna take care of that problem, right?
Russia hacking? A couple rallies in Western Pennsylvania gonna dead that, b.
I mean Bernie already thinks he gonna win the deep South by flipping white voters that vote GOP because the Dems ignore them.
Since there is an assumption that he could easily overcome those hurdles by simply campaigning in the Midwest more.
Like if the FBI drops a bomb on him right before the election. A couple more field offices in Wisconsin gonna take care of that problem, right?
Russia hacking? A couple rallies in Western Pennsylvania gonna dead that, b.
I mean Bernie already thinks he gonna win the deep South by flipping white voters that vote GOP because the Dems ignore them.
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No, he had to put up with republicans questioning whether he was even an American citizen in the GE. Not to mention the racism from the HRC campaign during the Dem primaries.
Nice pivot btw
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I don't want anything else.
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you quoted me chief, go read what you quoted
It was announced on October 28th, 2016 that the FBI was reviewing more emails..
election was on November 8th, 2016
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You quoted my response to
wavycrocket
not my response to you. Listing dates doesn't refute anything I've said.
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so Obama got an FBI investigation announced less than 2 weeks prior to an election?
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If she lost without the Comey letter, which was a possibility, I would me more inclined to come down harder of her mistakes.
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Rust, these hypotheticals are useless because Sanders and Hillary aren't running the same campaign. I could see them working if Biden got the nod but he and Hillary are really the only ones in the recent pool of potential elects that have a less than favorable public image.So Bernie supporters in here, you guys are cool with Sanders facing the same conditions Hillary faced in 2016.
Since there is an assumption that he could easily overcome those hurdles by simply campaigning in the Midwest more.
Like if the FBI drops a bomb on him right before the election. A couple more field offices in Wisconsin gonna take care of that problem, right?
Russia hacking? A couple rallies in Western Pennsylvania gonna dead that, b.
I mean Bernie already thinks he gonna win the deep South by flipping white voters that vote GOP because the Dems ignore them.
superblytrife
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We need answers, Bernie folks. Pls respond.
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Hillary had Republicans question her American citizenship for a whole campaign?
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republicans.. not the federal bureau of investigation
republicans were calling to lock her up.. and then the FBI got involved.. plus you had the hackings by the Russian government
obama dealt with racism.. she dealt with sexism
there’s a lot of stupid to go around
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Because it's not 2016? This isn't the KO punch you think it is.
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That is my whole point.
Are you that confident in a Sanders campaign that you will be unbothered if Russia unleashes another propaganda campaign to help Trump, and a Comey Letter level even right before the election.
Since beating Trump seems to be an easily as fixing one mistake.
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So they both dealt with adversity. That's all I'm saying.
As for the FBI, they only have as much sway as the party who's willing to use them to score points with their base. See how much Dems loved Mueller before that whole thing went kaput.
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the fbi is supposed to be independent
you expect attacks from political rivals
it’s why only stupid people listened to that birther crap about Obama
however if the FBI announced just before the election that they were going to investigate new information on obama’s birth we might have had to deal with Vice President Sarah palin and John McCain’s daughter being more insufferable
o and #neverforget
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I briefly skimmed through those new OMB documents and they’re almost entirely unintelligible due to the heavy redactions. Literally every substantive part is blacked out under the (b)(5) ‘deliberative process’ exemption, which is very broad.
