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dacomeup
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Would love to see some posts of said “caping”.You don’t have the best track record of honesty or engaging in genuine discourse. People thinking he’s less garbage of a person than Trump isn’t caping either.
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*read Inslee's comments about not wanting "backup" help by the federal gov't but rather a "Tom Brady"
"They think Tom Brady should be leading the effort"
My head hurts
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He was lauded for his vote. The term "courageous" was used if I remember correctly.
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is good at finding old posts. Not sure how he does it so quickly.
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This thread started with 2012 election. So there is tons of Romney shade in this thread. If you want to make this claim, show your work.
Because I can...
Saying Romney has did the right thing on one issue is not caping for him
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Trump said he would put America on top, and most importantly ahead of China. And look at this, promise kept...
#1 in total Covid-19 cases worldwide
Da proof is in da fluid with pudding like consistency filling American citizens lungs
USA!USA!
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“May not be the same restaurant, may not be the same ownership, but they’ll be back”
So... they won’t be back?
what kind of logic.
Like trying to argue with a schizophrenic... he’s living in his own reality
So... they won’t be back?
what kind of logic.
Like trying to argue with a schizophrenic... he’s living in his own reality
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It does take a bit of courage to do what Romney did in the cult environment of the Republican party.
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Bradys busy leading a team of losers already. No time to lead libs out of their mess too.
dacomeup
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So no caping? Got it. Just regular dishonesty and disingenuous statements coming from you.He was lauded for his vote. The term "courageous" was used if I remember correctly.
This thread is the last place where you’ll find Romney support. People being happy he showed half of a backbone during the trial with his vote is far from caping.
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He was lauded for his vote. The term "courageous" was used if I remember correctly.
Search results for query: Courageous
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dacomeup
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This dude is so set on “opening the country back up” while NY is on the verge of being the new Wuhan/Italy.
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Perhaps we think of caping differently.
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It's like McCain's vote to kill the Republican effort to completely destroy healthcare. Hardly caping to praise that vote.
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There is a lot more to the US than NY. I think he has mentioned certain parts opening prior to others.
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Apparently only things I say are caping in here 
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Florida, California, Washington are all looking rough as well. This thing spreads pretty fast or so I’ve heard.
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Look at this ****.
He can't prove his claim so there must be some misunderstanding
How can I prove it if you can just say, that's not caping it's just "praise" and "people being happy"
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That is four states. Do you think it is okay for certain parts of the country to open prior to others?
dacomeup
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You had much stronger support for Roy Moore and you’d argue that you weren’t caping for him, no?
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You specifically made this claim...How can I prove it if you can just say, that's not caping it's just "praise" and "people being happy"
You *** couldn't even back that up.
PELOSI on coronavirus bill: "What we did last night and what we will tomorrow -- $2 trillion -- is about the cost of the tax scam that the Republicans foisted on the nation to give 83% of the benefits to the top 1 percent ... they said it was gonna pay for itself. It never does."
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The iron law of oligarchy is a political theory, first developed by the German sociologist Robert Michels in his 1911 book, Political Parties.[1] It asserts that rule by an elite, or oligarchy, is inevitable as an "iron law" within any democratic organization as part of the "tactical and technical necessities" of organization.[1]
Michels's theory states that all complex organizations, regardless of how democratic they are when started, eventually develop into oligarchies. Michels observed that since no sufficiently large and complex organization can function purely as a direct democracy, power within an organization will always get delegated to individuals within that group, elected or otherwise.
Using anecdotes from political parties and trade unions struggling to operate democratically to build his argument in 1911, Michels addressed the application of this law to representative democracy, and stated: "Who says organization, says oligarchy."[1] He went on to state that "Historical evolution mocks all the prophylactic measures that have been adopted for the prevention of oligarchy."[1]
According to Michels all organizations eventually come to be run by a "leadership class", who often function as paid administrators, executives, spokespersons or political strategists for the organization. Far from being "servants of the masses", Michels argues this "leadership class," rather than the organization's membership, will inevitably grow to dominate the organization's power structures. By controlling who has access to information, those in power can centralize their power successfully, often with little accountability, due to the apathy, indifference and non-participation most rank and file members have in relation to their organization's decision-making processes. Michels argues that democratic attempts to hold leadership positions accountable are prone to fail, since with power comes the ability to reward loyalty, the ability to control information about the organization, and the ability to control what procedures the organization follows when making decisions. All of these mechanisms can be used to strongly influence the outcome of any decisions made 'democratically' by members.[2]
Michels stated that the official goal of representative democracy of eliminating elite rule was impossible, that representative democracy is a façade legitimizing the rule of a particular elite, and that elite rule, which he refers to as oligarchy, is inevitable.[1] Later Michels migrated to Italy and joined Benito Mussolini's Fascist Party, as he believed this was the next legitimate step of modern societies. The thesis became popular once more in post-war America with the publication of Union Democracy: The Internal Politics of the International Typographical Union (1956) and during the red scare brought about by McCarthyism.
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I think it’s pretty irresponsible to open any part of the country early considering the fact that most people are asymptomatic, tests are limited and this thing spreads incredibly fast. I think lots of us right now are asymptomatic and just chilling in our houses responsibly. I can see lots of sick and elderly people dropping within a couple weeks. I think we are economically anxious. I don’t think manslaughter is the answer. I don’t think it’s fair to weigh the cost of different lives.
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