***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[getback]

So what really happening in AZ?

The AP called the race at 2:50 a.m. EST Wednesday, after an analysis of ballots cast statewide concluded there were not enough outstanding to allow Trump to catch up.

With 80% of the expected vote counted, Biden was ahead by 5 percentage points, with a roughly 130,000-vote lead over Trump with about 2.6 million ballots counted. The remaining ballots left to be counted, including mail-in votes in Maricopa County, where Biden performed strongly, were not enough for Trump to catch up to the former vice president.

 

[biggie62]

I legitimately have no idea how the polls were so far off in Maine. Gideon is getting washed right now by like 6%

Well this is tricky because if collins doesn’t have an outright 50% then everyone chose a 2nd candidate on their ballot and the 3rd in votes told them not to vote for collins but for Gideon. Plus only about70% reported so who knows still.

 

[junglejim]

My biggest concern with Bernie is that the GOP can use socialism as a boogeyman to frighten a lot of voters. My guess is they’re betting on that working well for them. We all know they have no real message or beliefs.

You called this **** to a T in February.

 

[youngwolf]

The Irony of this meme is gold, essentially willing to turn the blind eye on others suffering because their politics/votes don't align with yours..... which is exactly what people are doing when voting for Trump

 

[QU!K]

To be honest ... we just need a third party. One led by Bernie ideology.

A party thats for the low/middle income that represent the majority of the country.

Every Democrat that is an extremists for the low/middle class always gets smackdown by the Democrat.

It's possible that a 3rd party would give more power to the republicans by splitting the liberal voters

It's kinda happened that way in Canada

the 3rd party sometimes has swing power though

 

[based mod]

Remember this tweet y'all posted from Shapiro?



A little more than an hour later.

 

[IATT]

 

[junglejim]

It's possible that a 3rd party would give more power to the republicans by splitting the liberal voters

If last night showed anything, it showed that most people are scared to death of the thought of socialism. Right or wrong, but the rich have been demonizing it for years to the point where any reference to it is satanic worship.

 

[mplsdunk]

Bernie party would get WASHED.

 

[MVP]

You called this **** to a T in February.

And this is also why while I love AOC people need to pump the brakes a bit on her being the next face of the party. She's younger Bernie.

 

[jewseejay]

You called this **** to a T in February.

ALOT of people did. The playbook was clear on this all along once the GOP saw voter registration numbers.

 

[starfox070]

To be honest ... we just need a third party. One led by Bernie ideology.

A party thats for the low/middle income that represent the majority of the country.

Every Democrat that is an extremists for the low/middle class always gets smackdown by the Democrat.

it would take votes from a Democrat party and republicans would win. Actually republicans would love this idea.

 

[junglejim]

 

[Mark Antony]

Just sold my house in Frisco and moving to Desoto.

I don't know of many places in America that are predominantly Black, over half the businesses are Black owned, over half the Black adults are college educated and crime is low.

I'm good.

Bubbles everywhere, some of the ones in red states rivaling or better in blue states. It's like the exterior threat prompts you to fortify your space even more.

 

[rolaholic]

You called this **** to a T in February.

I mean why even shy away from that when they will always use the same playbook regardless of the candidate though? Not really a gotcha at all

Literally happens every damn time as was the case with Biden now, HRC last time and Obama before.

Shouldn't have much bearing on how to move forward besides learning to reframe the issue to your advantage instead of just immediately ceding the narrative entirely to Conservatives and playing defense the whole time.

Nothing they did is new or shocking, makes no sense letting let Republicans dictate what's acceptable from Democrats and what isn't.

 

[IATT]

 

[mplsdunk]

Yeah, nobody from the Bernie party voted red. Everybody from Bernie party voted blue.

so you wanna split blue in half between old blue and young blue?

I wouldn’t vote for Bernie party. It would be like voting Kanye.

 

[superblytrife]

Reports say president will ask for recount in Wisconsin. This far from over guys even when Biden wins.

Recounts rarely change the initial results. I don’t see this being any different.

 

[junglejim]

I mean why shy away from that when they use the same playbool regardless of the candidate though?

Literally happens every damn time as was the case with Biden now, HRC last time and Obama before. Shouldn't have much bearing on how to move forward besides learning to reframe the issue to your advantage instead of just ceding the narrative entirely to the right wing

Kind of ruins the chances of someone like AOC or Bernie becoming the face of the democratic party

 

[IATT]

 

[starfox070]

To be honest Rep have better interest of middle class than the Dems. The Dems have better interest of Low income than the Reps.

Thats why you see such a big split IMHO.

Middle class is ****ed either way because the help from the Rep is not enough and when it comes to the Dems, well the Middle class is ****ed.

the middle class a lie at this point. Republicans don’t really cater to them. Rather just feed them ishto yell at as they become poor. You can look at the data. Republicans actually don’t build economic policies that help middle class people. They instill fear. The lack of covid relief showed this and then republicans called middle bless people lazy for being out of work.

 

[dwalk31]

It was ridiculous to think Republicans would keep the senate in here a week ago.

 

[elpablo21]

Un ******* believable

 

[gil23]

That’s foul, I don’t get why if it’s postmarked they don’t count that ****

 

[rolaholic]

Kind of ruins the chances of someone like AOC or Bernie becoming the face of the democratic party

That's a terrible takeaway when the damn fox new polls indicated majority support nationally for most of the progressive policies they espouse my dude

Same policies that got standing ovations from GOP townhall attendees when presented to them without any dishonest and bad faith framing

Again, the takeaway is about the delivery of the messaging itself and not letting the GOP dictate the narrative/terms.

Not the actual substance of that messaging. The substance is met favorably by most of the country