***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Upptempo]

If your city voted for Trump, you should have all your Black players traded to a city that voted Biden and have a roster full of white republicans.

 

[Magic33]

If last night showed anything, it showed that most people are scared to death of the thought of socialism. Right or wrong, but the rich have been demonizing it for years to the point where any reference to it is satanic worship.

It's not socialism they're scared of

 

[RustyShackleford]

enlighten me.

I'm just being trying to be a realist about this stuff.

Enlighten you about what? I don't know what happened last night. No one does right now.

Like the hot takes about what motivated 2016 Midwestern white voters turned out to be wrong. Why can't you handle someone telling your *** to wait on the rant?

Other people in here have way more to lose because of the election and your main objection seems to be to get people to acknowledge you are right. With flimsy evidence.

Like seriously, I don't want to ******* do with this you today.

 

[mr s j king]

themselves so its hard to gauge what to say and who to say it to
They would rather play it safe

Just sold my house in Frisco and moving to Desoto.

I don't know of many places in America that are predominantly Black, over half the businesses are Black owned, over half the Black adults are college educated and crime is low.

I'm good.

Its people like you that made our prices skyrocket
Dont come runnin to the south side now that you surrounded by Trump flags

Desoto used to be predominantly white
Those college educated people you reference are the kids that grew up in South Oak Cliff
Went off to college and moved back home in a suburban area close to their old neighborhoods
There's still remnants of the old Desoto
There's a white guy that lives not far from me with a Trump Pence flag flying from his backyard

 

[Olympus]

So what’s the hope for the senate now? They need one republican seat right? And there’s one left?

 

[frank 7he t4nk]

Collins, Tillis, Graham, and Loeffler is still in it...

 

[junglejim]

That's a terrible takeaway when the damn fox new polls indicated majority support nationally for the progressive policies they espouse my dude

Same policies that got standing ovations from GOP townhall attendees when presented to them without any dishonest and bad faith framing

You are quite literally proving my point. Democrats need to do a much better job communicating the point without tying it to socialism.

Call it something else, but as soon as your call is socialism every tooth breather in bum **** alabama is reaching for their gun safe key.

 

[starfox070]

The very next step for Joseph after he emerges victorious is to pack the court. I mean, why not.

you wanna see how useless government can get watch the senate block everything and run on that for the next4 years.

dude honestly they will elect anyone with a R on they name. Now trump will be like fox and give marching orders from the sideline. He will declare himself Republican president.

tweet and make tv appearances saying backward stuff his base will love it and the party to stay infavor will follow.

He is now a king.

of a bunch a Q anon racist republicans. Get ready.

 

[yasuke.]

Eddie Glaude with the heat.

 

[mplsdunk]

You also can tell who never travels in this thread. “I wouldn’t go _____ because it’s red”

ALL the states are mostly red, it’s only the big cities that carry the democrats.

 

[ICE CITY CF]

I live in the Bay Area and I keep saying I live in a bubble. Each city here is different from the next and as you go away from the Bay Area, it's like living in a red state sometimes.

you can just go down to the marina and it's hella different
you might not see the signs up, but there are definitely red in there

Even in the immediate East Bay you got trump support and generational supporters of Republican ideology. Not in Oakland/Berkeley, but the second you leave the deep east and hit San Leandro there's a subtle shift in attitude that grows as you travel into Hayward and particularly down into the Union City-Fremont-Newark area.

 

[getback]

If your city voted for Trump, you should have all your Black players traded to a city that voted Biden and have a roster full of white republicans.

Maybe that's why Hayward now suddenly wants out of Boston

Sign and trade this dude for Patient Zero or Turner. Send him home to Salt Lake or Indy.

 

[elpablo21]

So what’s the hope for the senate now? They need one republican seat right? And there’s one left?

They need both GA seats

Its over

Edit: and Peters to keep MI

 

[atlsfinest]

 

[rolaholic]

You are quite literally proving my point. Democrats need to do a much better job communicating the point without tying it to socialism.

The problem is deprogamming the propoganda about policies favorable to the working class and majority of Americans being some sort of evil bogeyman, not indulging and accepting that framing without pushback by default.

Those policies and terms aren't taboo in other western democracies and actually form the bedrocks of their expansive social safety nets. Getting Americans off the McCarthyist ******** they were spoonfed for decades is the issue. Not the policies themselves.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

It's almost as if you don't know that a significant number of hispanics in the US identify as white.

But let's think about the weak *** implication Krugman is trying to cling to here.

Trump outperformed polls with Hispanics. He out performed polls.

Trump outperformed polls with some black votes (wtf does that even mean?)

These aren't the gotcha points you think they are.

1. I'm well aware that a significant number of Hispanics identify as white.

2. They are pretty devastating points actually.

The last two democratic candidates have leaned heavily on Trumps racism as a conduit for his unfitness for office. it seems to have done nothing to blunt his appeal to latino voters, and he may have done better with black voters.

many democrats have been talking this "demographics are destiny" stuff, "changing demographics" will deliver them texas ect ect, if the some of the results are to be believed this is not the case.

this is massive repudiation of a common democratic party talking point.

 

[dacomeup]

Whites + Latinos definitely. And a proportion of Black males feeling alienated, disaffected or simply ignored. That doesn’t speak to the Black vote overall though. Black people are clear on feelings of Trump being racist.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Enlighten you about what?

what am i missing by not living in america?

 

[MVP]

That's a terrible takeaway when the damn fox new polls indicated majority support nationally for the progressive policies they espouse my dude

Same policies that got standing ovations from GOP townhall attendees when presented to them without any dishonest and bad faith framing

Again, the takeaway is about the delivery of the messaging itself. Not the substance of that messaging. The substance is met favorably to most of the country

Polls should be thrown in the trash. We know these people are already taking advantage of social services and want healthcare. The Dems can wrap it up as neatly as possible but if their already susceptible to the GOP for other reasons and are just going to let them lie lie lie and end up voting against their own self interest, then what can you really do. Progressives have a much better chance at Congressional races than really being viable right now as a presidential candidate unless you are a superstar talent like Obama.

 

[junglejim]

The problem is deprogamming the propoganda about policies favorable to the working class and majority of Americans being some sort of evil bogeyman, not indulging and accepting that framing by default like they have.

Those policies and terms aren't taboo in other western countries and are the bedrocks of their large social safety nets. Getting Americans off the McCarthyist bull**** they were fed for decades is the issue. Not the policies themselves.

We are saying the exact same thing.

 

[QU!K]

If last night showed anything, it showed that most people are scared to death of the thought of socialism. Right or wrong, but the rich have been demonizing it for years to the point where any reference to it is satanic worship.

I mean, part of the problem is that a lot of immigrants coming from places where socialism has failed are equating it with dictatorship or authoritarian government rather than looking at Canada as an example. Free healthcare is alright. and MOST Americans aren't in that 400k + a year category. Canada isn't really socialist.

 

[gil23]

Polls don’t meant shiet

 

[IATT]

Like I mentioned earlier, the game has changed and this is gonna be the modern GOP moving forward.

Their base isn't gonna shy back and put the hoods back on after going full mask off the last few years and spineless GOP establishment types aren't gonna challenge them like they didn't challenge 45. Just simply fall in line and do their bidding.

They'll continue to co-opt that same wave in the name of political survival and expediency

wonder how this plays out without trump.. obviously trump won’t go away.. but if he loses, he has his legal problems.. and I assume he still tries to come back in 4 years but who is trying grab power within the party then

we’ve already seen trump turn on republicans.. and hard to think others will get the passes he got

 

[freeze]

These blue states purposely counted the big city/urban cities last, to swindle Trump

Love it....

All the rural area numbers were posted first

Hit son with the in-n-out hesi step back hesi drive for the jelly layup

 

[junglejim]

I mean, part of the problem is that a lot of immigrants coming from places where socialism has failed are equating it with dictatorship or authoritarian government rather than looking at Canada as an example. Free healthcare is alright. and MOST Americans aren't in that 400k + a year category.

Absolutely. You could see it in Florida. People overwhelmingly voted for a $15 minimum wage, but voted for Trump even though he is absolutely against it.