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***Official Political Discussion Thread***
- Thread in 'General' Thread starter Started by rico x hood,
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The real crime here is that those cops could be better paid
Not getting dragged into this
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Osh arguments in here always sound like my boy and his dad
They’re nigerian too
They’re nigerian too
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sorry if it seemed like i was responding to you. in general, when there are pages of back and forth between members in here, i tend to scroll past it all. i don’t know the nuances or particulars of your stance. i was just posting something somewhat related from the state that i live in.
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“I never said give them more money, I just said giving them less money doesn’t make sense while vehemently arguing that better policing requires more money”.
saddest thing about you bootlicking this hard is you aren’t even monetizing it. Coulda linked with delk to make coal and maple to rival diamond and silk and instead you just sitting at the house staring at graphs and pew polls. Sad.
saddest thing about you bootlicking this hard is you aren’t even monetizing it. Coulda linked with delk to make coal and maple to rival diamond and silk and instead you just sitting at the house staring at graphs and pew polls. Sad.
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Biden picks retired general Lloyd Austin to run Pentagon
www.politico.com
Biden picks retired general Lloyd Austin to run Pentagon
If confirmed, the retired general would become the first Black defense secretary.
www.politico.com
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And ice cream sales strongly correlate with homicides.
Violent crime is down, police spending is up.
Violent crime is down, electric vehicle sales are up.
Violent crime is down, the number of Netflix subscribers has risen.
Correlation doesn't equal causation. When you actually compare different cities' outcomes, you'll appreciate how facile the "more $ = less crime" generalization truly is.
As U.S. crime rates dropped, local police spending soared
Protesters nationwide are calling to “defund the police” in the wake of George Floyd’s killing. Financial records show the opposite has been happening for years.
www.politico.com
If you limit your observations to 2014 forward, budgets increased and crime increased - yet you wouldn’t argue that police spending causes crime. You can’t have it both ways.
Spending is not the only variable here, nor is it even the most salient.
At current exchange rates, Toronto spends about $310 per capita on police. Quebec City spends just under $180 USD per capita on policing.
Baltimore spends over $904 per capita on policing, yet amassed over 300 homicides for its sixth straight year in 2020, despite the lockdowns. In the first half of this year, Baltimore was trending ahead of its record-setting homicide rate in 2019.
Nationally, there are significantly more officers per 100,000 people in the United States than Canada. (The latest figures show 188 officers per 100,000 Canadians, compared to 238 officers per 100,000 Americans - and the figure is actually lower for Ontario, at 177.)
Canadian police salaries, too, are far lower than those of their American counterparts. Canadian police officers make an average of just over $77,500 USD annually at current exchange rates.
Switch sides of the border or switch sides on this argument. I don't care how annoying Sharon from work is.
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Papertrail Kayleigh back at it
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What a selfish sunauvah *****.
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These brehs might need some more cake to administer more justice
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It's not a facile generalization.
I'm not basing this on the general drop in crime and the rise in police spending over time. yes that would be facile.
and a study on the impact of officer patrols on crime.
studies comparing crime solve rates WITHIN the department/city. so the overall drop in crime is not a relevant factor. and a statistical analysis that controls for variables.
disagree with it if you want to, but I think it's a whole lot more compelling than.
1. cut pollice budget
2. ????
3. police improve.
1. this is a fascicle comparison.
I've provided some studies that attempts to control for different variables to estimate the impact of time spent solving crimes, and police patrols on preventing crime.
you given me comparisons of different cities in different countries, with totally different government structure, different criminogenic conditions, different cost of living that near as I can tell control for exactly zero variables.
whose comparison is fascile?
wut? what is the relevance of police officer salaries in canada?
when did I say "increasing officer pay" is the path to police reform.
My point is not that you need to pay officers a higher salary
My point is that police reforms cost money, hiring new cops, training old ones, getting rid of bad ones, it all costs money.
You don't need to agree with my policy prescriptions
but I wish some of you would approach defund the police crowd the same level of scrutiny.
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You guys don't need to agree with my ideas.
I'm just an ******* on the internet.
But I have yet to see like actual evidence based reasoning on how making significant cuts police departments improves policing.
it's all just magical thinking. and vague appeals to "education" and "investment".
without dealing with the first order problem of solving and preventing crim.
again scrutinize defund the police with the same vigor you scrutinize my posts.
Your willingness to accept defund the police as good policy sounds to me like an intellectual laziness that is borne of echo chambers.
I'm just an ******* on the internet.
But I have yet to see like actual evidence based reasoning on how making significant cuts police departments improves policing.
it's all just magical thinking. and vague appeals to "education" and "investment".
without dealing with the first order problem of solving and preventing crim.
again scrutinize defund the police with the same vigor you scrutinize my posts.
Your willingness to accept defund the police as good policy sounds to me like an intellectual laziness that is borne of echo chambers.
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Lou chargin up like Goku
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Dime pieces right there
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Nah' how much you wanna bet that he needed to change his diaper?!Trump actin like he handed in his two weeks notice
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And he faces zero critics, from that intercept esque clique & rose Twitter folks for this
