Oh I'm sorry, Did I Break Your Conversation........Well Allow Me A Movie Thread by S&T

[duba169]

black swan sticks out for sure. Natalie portman in the professional as well

mia farrow in rosemary's baby is great. But she is frail and lacks a backbone for the most part.

oh wow i know a movie with an EXCELLENT woman performance. the entire movie is pretty much two people.

AntiChrist

Highly recommended. But it's a demented movie. Don't research the movie. Don't read any reviews. It will take away from what happens in the first few scenes. Take my word. One of the best movies I've seen in years.

It's probably a very sexist movie. I think it is. And plenty of people do, But jeez man. One messed up and intriguing movie. She is amazing.

 

[CP1708]

Devil Wears Prada was excellent and had THREE outstanding performances.  And only 1 male great performance. 

 

[CP1708]

Devil Wears Prada was excellent and had THREE outstanding performances.  And only 1 male great performance. 

 

[lawdog1]

Originally Posted by JPZx

I thought Berry stood out in Swordfish as well...

To be honest, I can't think of hardly any movies with a woman as the lead-role that I've actually really enjoyed. Movie sexism? Probably

... Black Swan and Easy A are the only ones that stick out (both in 2010, strange enough).

I'm not talking about movies where they're are like three people, all sharing equal screen time, such as Doubt (Streep, Seymour-Hoffman, Adams). I'm speaking strictly of the films where there's a clear-cut lead role, and it's a woman.
  
  

Alien and Aliens?  Aliens was more of an ensemble movie, but Sigourney Weaver still was the clear lead.  But both of those Alient movies were great movies even though they had a female lead.  I also thought Baby Mama was pretty funny and that two female lead characters.  That's about all I can come up with, unless you count Jamie Lee Curtis as the lead in the first Halloween movie.

 

[lawdog1]

Originally Posted by JPZx

I thought Berry stood out in Swordfish as well...

To be honest, I can't think of hardly any movies with a woman as the lead-role that I've actually really enjoyed. Movie sexism? Probably

... Black Swan and Easy A are the only ones that stick out (both in 2010, strange enough).

I'm not talking about movies where they're are like three people, all sharing equal screen time, such as Doubt (Streep, Seymour-Hoffman, Adams). I'm speaking strictly of the films where there's a clear-cut lead role, and it's a woman.
  
  

Alien and Aliens?  Aliens was more of an ensemble movie, but Sigourney Weaver still was the clear lead.  But both of those Alient movies were great movies even though they had a female lead.  I also thought Baby Mama was pretty funny and that two female lead characters.  That's about all I can come up with, unless you count Jamie Lee Curtis as the lead in the first Halloween movie.

 

[koolbarbone]

Originally Posted by JPZx

I thought Berry stood out in Swordfish as well...

To be honest, I can't think of hardly any movies with a woman as the lead-role that I've actually really enjoyed. Movie sexism? Probably

... Black Swan and Easy A are the only ones that stick out (both in 2010, strange enough).

I'm not talking about movies where they're are like three people, all sharing equal screen time, such as Doubt (Streep, Seymour-Hoffman, Adams). I'm speaking strictly of the films where there's a clear-cut lead role, and it's a woman.

That's probably because most of the movies you watch came out after 1980.

That's not meant to be a put-down, just a statement. But during the Hollywood studio system women routinely carried movies. They had to, since they were contractually tied to the studios themselves.

 

[koolbarbone]

Originally Posted by JPZx

I thought Berry stood out in Swordfish as well...

To be honest, I can't think of hardly any movies with a woman as the lead-role that I've actually really enjoyed. Movie sexism? Probably

... Black Swan and Easy A are the only ones that stick out (both in 2010, strange enough).

I'm not talking about movies where they're are like three people, all sharing equal screen time, such as Doubt (Streep, Seymour-Hoffman, Adams). I'm speaking strictly of the films where there's a clear-cut lead role, and it's a woman.

That's probably because most of the movies you watch came out after 1980.

That's not meant to be a put-down, just a statement. But during the Hollywood studio system women routinely carried movies. They had to, since they were contractually tied to the studios themselves.

 

[illmaticsoulchild]

Just finished watching the Wonder Woman pilot. It was.. interesting. 

And IMO, one of the better action female performances was Linda Hamilton in T2. What's fascinating is that while John was essentially "humanizing" the T800, Sarah Connor basically went the opposite way and nearly became dehumanized. I loved how she played the role and the dichotomy between her and Arnold is really what created a universal resonance with movie audiences (at least IMO). 

Cameron and Wisher did a phenomenal job with the screenplay and the fact they were under heavy time constraints made it even more impressive.

 

[illmaticsoulchild]

Just finished watching the Wonder Woman pilot. It was.. interesting. 

And IMO, one of the better action female performances was Linda Hamilton in T2. What's fascinating is that while John was essentially "humanizing" the T800, Sarah Connor basically went the opposite way and nearly became dehumanized. I loved how she played the role and the dichotomy between her and Arnold is really what created a universal resonance with movie audiences (at least IMO). 

Cameron and Wisher did a phenomenal job with the screenplay and the fact they were under heavy time constraints made it even more impressive.

 

[duba169]

Gone with the wind.

 

[duba169]

Gone with the wind.

 

[kevin cleveland]

I watched The American out of boredom last night (had zero interest in it when it was out). It was a pleasant surprise. Not a typical assassin film at all. Substance, thorough characters, unbelievably shot, etc. The story wasn't perfect, but I liked it quite a bit.

I guess I just assumed it was something completely different. Don't really recall what it was marketed as.

 

[kevin cleveland]

I watched The American out of boredom last night (had zero interest in it when it was out). It was a pleasant surprise. Not a typical assassin film at all. Substance, thorough characters, unbelievably shot, etc. The story wasn't perfect, but I liked it quite a bit.

I guess I just assumed it was something completely different. Don't really recall what it was marketed as.

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by illmaticsoulchild

Just finished watching the Wonder Woman pilot. It was.. interesting. 

And IMO, one of the better action female performances was Linda Hamilton in T2. What's fascinating is that while John was essentially "humanizing" the T800, Sarah Connor basically went the opposite way and nearly became dehumanized. I loved how she played the role and the dichotomy between her and Arnold is really what created a universal resonance with movie audiences (at least IMO). 

Cameron and Wisher did a phenomenal job with the screenplay and the fact they were under heavy time constraints made it even more impressive.

Great call.  I agree

Erin Brokovich is a good one too. 

Winter's Bone? 

  

 

[CP1708]

Originally Posted by illmaticsoulchild

Just finished watching the Wonder Woman pilot. It was.. interesting. 

And IMO, one of the better action female performances was Linda Hamilton in T2. What's fascinating is that while John was essentially "humanizing" the T800, Sarah Connor basically went the opposite way and nearly became dehumanized. I loved how she played the role and the dichotomy between her and Arnold is really what created a universal resonance with movie audiences (at least IMO). 

Cameron and Wisher did a phenomenal job with the screenplay and the fact they were under heavy time constraints made it even more impressive.

Great call.  I agree

Erin Brokovich is a good one too. 

Winter's Bone? 

  

 

[duba169]

The girl in chasing amy wasn't written to badly

 

[duba169]

The girl in chasing amy wasn't written to badly

 

[johnnyredstorm]

One of the best female performances you'll see is from Audrey Hepburn in The Children's Hour based on William Wyler's play. I've been saving that one for when it was my week, but she was fantastic throughout the movie as a lovely boarding school teacher that has her life ruined by a derisive rumor from a little girl that her and Shiryl Maclaine were lesbian lovers. I highly recommend you all check out her filmography (my favorite is the few movies she did in the 60s on but Roman Holiday and The Nun Story were excellent), particularly Breakfast at Tiffany's, Wait Until Dark (the supporting cast is meh but the script and her performance made up for it), and My Fair Lady--haven't seen Unforgiven but I've heard good things.

But during the Hollywood studio system women routinely carried movies. They had to, since they were contractually tied to the studios themselves.


The good old days, that's why I love that era. You got women characters that have no problem standing up to the man and taking things over like Mae West. I honestly think Marilyn Monroe really hurt the industry long-term (which was a shame since she had such a gentleness to her that gotten taken advantage of by the industry) with the way she let herself be used as a sex symbol.

Another actress that I really like from back in the day is Natalie Wood but I haven't exactly seen enough of her films (really only seen Westside Story, half of Rebel Without a Cause and Sex and the Single Girl which was fantastic), though, to really gauge her career.

And since I'm here, I went to Borders before and there's barely any good films left on blu which is terrible considering they're still way overpriced. Wanted to pick up the Harry Potter series but each paperback was 3 dollars more than Amazon which has the whole collection for 46 bucks or so.

The girl in chasing amy wasn't written to badly

That's what it comes down to really. You can't write women like men, you have to really give them depth by adding a level of cuteness, and making them slightly quirky/silly (just look at Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman with the way she laughs when Richard Gere gives her that necklace), personable, and a tad bit bratty (that's why those noir women were great, they did everything possible to get things their way).

 

[johnnyredstorm]

One of the best female performances you'll see is from Audrey Hepburn in The Children's Hour based on William Wyler's play. I've been saving that one for when it was my week, but she was fantastic throughout the movie as a lovely boarding school teacher that has her life ruined by a derisive rumor from a little girl that her and Shiryl Maclaine were lesbian lovers. I highly recommend you all check out her filmography (my favorite is the few movies she did in the 60s on but Roman Holiday and The Nun Story were excellent), particularly Breakfast at Tiffany's, Wait Until Dark (the supporting cast is meh but the script and her performance made up for it), and My Fair Lady--haven't seen Unforgiven but I've heard good things.

But during the Hollywood studio system women routinely carried movies. They had to, since they were contractually tied to the studios themselves.


The good old days, that's why I love that era. You got women characters that have no problem standing up to the man and taking things over like Mae West. I honestly think Marilyn Monroe really hurt the industry long-term (which was a shame since she had such a gentleness to her that gotten taken advantage of by the industry) with the way she let herself be used as a sex symbol.

Another actress that I really like from back in the day is Natalie Wood but I haven't exactly seen enough of her films (really only seen Westside Story, half of Rebel Without a Cause and Sex and the Single Girl which was fantastic), though, to really gauge her career.

And since I'm here, I went to Borders before and there's barely any good films left on blu which is terrible considering they're still way overpriced. Wanted to pick up the Harry Potter series but each paperback was 3 dollars more than Amazon which has the whole collection for 46 bucks or so.

The girl in chasing amy wasn't written to badly

That's what it comes down to really. You can't write women like men, you have to really give them depth by adding a level of cuteness, and making them slightly quirky/silly (just look at Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman with the way she laughs when Richard Gere gives her that necklace), personable, and a tad bit bratty (that's why those noir women were great, they did everything possible to get things their way).

 

[duba169]

Faye runaway in chinatown. Forgot about that one

I think a girl wrote juno. Honestly plenty of woman have done well but noticeably less these days. Movies in general are very differant beasts. Too much money involved

 

[duba169]

Faye runaway in chinatown. Forgot about that one

I think a girl wrote juno. Honestly plenty of woman have done well but noticeably less these days. Movies in general are very differant beasts. Too much money involved

 

[koolbarbone]

Originally Posted by DubA169

Faye runaway in chinatown. Forgot about that one

I think a girl wrote juno. Honestly plenty of woman have done well but noticeably less these days. Movies in general are very differant beasts. Too much money involved

Agreed, there are a lot less prominent roles for women out there than there used to be. But for JPZ to say that there aren't any memorable performances is just crazy.

Helen Mirren in The Queen
Ellen Page in Juno
Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side
Reese Witherspoon in Walk the Line
Hillary Swank in Boys Don't Cry and Million Dollar Baby
Kate Winslet in everything she does
Erin Brockovich like CP mentioned
Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones's Diary
Diane Lane in Unfaithful
Charlize Theron in North Country and Monster
Gabourey Sidibe in Precious

And that's just some of the Oscar winners/nominees in the more popular movies in the last decade or so.

 

[koolbarbone]

Originally Posted by DubA169

Faye runaway in chinatown. Forgot about that one

I think a girl wrote juno. Honestly plenty of woman have done well but noticeably less these days. Movies in general are very differant beasts. Too much money involved

Agreed, there are a lot less prominent roles for women out there than there used to be. But for JPZ to say that there aren't any memorable performances is just crazy.

Helen Mirren in The Queen
Ellen Page in Juno
Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side
Reese Witherspoon in Walk the Line
Hillary Swank in Boys Don't Cry and Million Dollar Baby
Kate Winslet in everything she does
Erin Brockovich like CP mentioned
Renee Zellweger in Bridget Jones's Diary
Diane Lane in Unfaithful
Charlize Theron in North Country and Monster
Gabourey Sidibe in Precious

And that's just some of the Oscar winners/nominees in the more popular movies in the last decade or so.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

I need to see Monster, and I love Kate Winslet.
You could throw The Kids Are Alright to that list of women driven films with excellent acting performances.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

I need to see Monster, and I love Kate Winslet.
You could throw The Kids Are Alright to that list of women driven films with excellent acting performances.