Okay, can we FINALLY admit.....

[osh kosh bosh]

Originally Posted by Dade B0Y

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Derrick Rose winning the MVP is equivalent to Malone in '97, dudes just tired of giving it to LBJ just like they were Jordan.

Actually, it would be MUCH  worse than that in my opinion.

As much of a sham that 97 MVP was(blatant case of voters fatigue), atleast Malone put up legendary type numbers himself. Malone put 27/10-4 on 55% shooting. And the Jazz had the best record in the West.

Rose is avg 24-8-4  on 44% shooting. In no way should those numbers constitute as an MVP season. That's a good year, not the "MVP". LeBron is statistically superior across the board.

Seriously Malone AND Barkley deserved those MVP they put up numbers better than Jordan on teams with better records, that usually means MVP.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Originally Posted by Dade B0Y

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Derrick Rose winning the MVP is equivalent to Malone in '97, dudes just tired of giving it to LBJ just like they were Jordan.

Actually, it would be MUCH  worse than that in my opinion.

As much of a sham that 97 MVP was(blatant case of voters fatigue), atleast Malone put up legendary type numbers himself. Malone put 27/10-4 on 55% shooting. And the Jazz had the best record in the West.

Rose is avg 24-8-4  on 44% shooting. In no way should those numbers constitute as an MVP season. That's a good year, not the "MVP". LeBron is statistically superior across the board.

Seriously Malone AND Barkley deserved those MVP they put up numbers better than Jordan on teams with better records, that usually means MVP.

 

[thepointgod]

Your argument is faulty and can be inverted to reason the following:
The Cavs put together a great supporting cast for those two seasons and with them, Lebron and the Cavs were able to lead the NBA in wins.

Now that he has left Cleveland, the value and talent of those Cavs players are highlighted because Lebron can no longer lead the NBA in wins without them.  

 

[thepointgod]

Your argument is faulty and can be inverted to reason the following:
The Cavs put together a great supporting cast for those two seasons and with them, Lebron and the Cavs were able to lead the NBA in wins.

Now that he has left Cleveland, the value and talent of those Cavs players are highlighted because Lebron can no longer lead the NBA in wins without them.  

 

[jayfiend]

Originally Posted by thesimplestlife

Originally Posted by Dade B0Y

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Derrick Rose winning the MVP is equivalent to Malone in '97, dudes just tired of giving it to LBJ just like they were Jordan.

Actually, it would be MUCH  worse than that in my opinion.

As much of a sham that 97 MVP was(blatant case of voters fatigue), atleast Malone put up legendary type numbers himself. Malone put 27/10-4 on 55% shooting. And the Jazz had the best record in the West.

Rose is avg 24-8-4  on 44% shooting. In no way should those numbers constitute as an MVP season. That's a good year, not the "MVP". LeBron is statistically superior across the board.

Do you guys not understand that MVP stands for Most Valuable Player? The concept of most valuable applies to an individual's value to his team. For instance, last year, Lebron was more valuable to the cavs than any other player was to his respective team. This year, Rose fits that bill. The Bulls - Rose = Not Good.  The Heat - Lebron = Decent. Lets not make things more complicated than they are.

QFT. Stats got a lot to do with it. but it gopes deeper than that. But yea Lebron is the best in the L right now.
  

 

[jayfiend]

Originally Posted by thesimplestlife

Originally Posted by Dade B0Y

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Derrick Rose winning the MVP is equivalent to Malone in '97, dudes just tired of giving it to LBJ just like they were Jordan.

Actually, it would be MUCH  worse than that in my opinion.

As much of a sham that 97 MVP was(blatant case of voters fatigue), atleast Malone put up legendary type numbers himself. Malone put 27/10-4 on 55% shooting. And the Jazz had the best record in the West.

Rose is avg 24-8-4  on 44% shooting. In no way should those numbers constitute as an MVP season. That's a good year, not the "MVP". LeBron is statistically superior across the board.

Do you guys not understand that MVP stands for Most Valuable Player? The concept of most valuable applies to an individual's value to his team. For instance, last year, Lebron was more valuable to the cavs than any other player was to his respective team. This year, Rose fits that bill. The Bulls - Rose = Not Good.  The Heat - Lebron = Decent. Lets not make things more complicated than they are.

QFT. Stats got a lot to do with it. but it gopes deeper than that. But yea Lebron is the best in the L right now.
  

 

[Truth]

Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

 

[Truth]

Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

 

[flyest in the hood]

DTruth07 wrote:

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Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

 

[flyest in the hood]

DTruth07 wrote:

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Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

 

[smedroc]

Originally Posted by DTruth07

Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

this is a gem

 

[smedroc]

Originally Posted by DTruth07

Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

this is a gem

 

[Humbled]

Originally Posted by DTruth07

Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

*looks at post*....

*looks at sig*...

L.A. LAKERS

*looks at post again*...

 

[Humbled]

Originally Posted by DTruth07

Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

*looks at post*....

*looks at sig*...

L.A. LAKERS

*looks at post again*...

 

[cosmiccanon]

It's gon be so funny when the Heat win the chip this year, NT is gonna be on Bron's jock so hard.

 

[cosmiccanon]

It's gon be so funny when the Heat win the chip this year, NT is gonna be on Bron's jock so hard.

 

[MVP]

^They ain't getting out the East this year tho.

 

[MVP]

^They ain't getting out the East this year tho.

 

[acidicality]

Originally Posted by DTruth07

Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

 

[acidicality]

Originally Posted by DTruth07

Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...

Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...

 

[Humbled]

Originally Posted by Mamba MVP

^They ain't getting out the East this year tho.

The way LA is playing they ain't making it out the West tho.

 

[Humbled]

Originally Posted by Mamba MVP

^They ain't getting out the East this year tho.

The way LA is playing they ain't making it out the West tho.

 

[poeticjays]

Originally Posted by jbone2308

But when it matters...... we hear Magic and others taking their words back as Kobe carries an inconsistant soft Laker team back to the finals and wins the MVP.

Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Odom >>>>anyone on the Cavs not named Lebron.

You think if Lebron shot 6-24 in ANY game of ANY playoff series the cavs would win?

 

[poeticjays]

Originally Posted by jbone2308

But when it matters...... we hear Magic and others taking their words back as Kobe carries an inconsistant soft Laker team back to the finals and wins the MVP.

Gasol, Bynum, Artest, Odom >>>>anyone on the Cavs not named Lebron.

You think if Lebron shot 6-24 in ANY game of ANY playoff series the cavs would win?

 

[yoppa guevara]

while i do think lebron is the mvp. your argument is flawed. If the mavs lost dirk , they would be BAD....like VERY BAD. Doesnt make him the mvp. and in Cleveland's defense they've lost big z,shaq,varejao, and mo for a good chunk of the season. They get mo n varajao back with the first overall and and some notable free agents and they can make a run for the 8th seed next year.