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That would imply that Bron isn't "as valuable" to the Heat as he was to the Cavs. I'm pretty sure if you take any superstar off their current team that was totally built around what they do, similar (maybe not as bad as the Cavs now) would suffer similar fates.
durant off oklahoma city...not as bad as cavs
kobe off lakers....not as bad as cavs
howard off magic....not as bad as cavs
maybe if you took chris paul off the hornets, they'd be cavs-level bummy....MAYBE
no team in the NBA would be as bad as the cavs minus their "superstar"...maybe the wizard...BWHAHAHAH
good point. plus that piston team were a better defensive team than orlando and boston. yet bron just took it to them and i thought that 09-10 cavs teams had better chemistry and better team than that team in 07.
nah, i think boston was a better defensive team than the pistons...
PLUS, the pistons got SHOCKED.....lebron james BECAME lebron james that series....
they had no idea that was going to happen
boston saw THAT for like 4 years....they had a gameplan which was perfectly executed...
lebron james took tayshaun prince's soul...
and youre actually CRITICIZING him for NOT taking everyone else's soul every time he's in a playoff series?
, SOME *%!$#+ AINT NEVER TOOK NOBODY'S SOUL!
"oh, you can backflip? big whoop, you should be able to backflip instead of walk to get to work in the morning.."
to jump to the conclusion that Lebron leaving the Cavs immediately lead to 60 wins to maybe 10 wins is assinine
please, what would YOU contribute it to.....please, don't give me 14 different contibuting factors...
what is MOST responsible for their DRAMATIC contrast between the BEST team and the WORST team in ONE off-season?
You want to know why Wally and the Likes of Anthony Parker were celebrated signings, it's because they filled a ROLE that needed to be filled, things that you do when building a championship team.
the role of unathletic garbage guards who can barely jog downcourt, let alone create a shot? oh, okay...
Cleveland brought in the perfect type of players
drew gooden, larry hughes, sasha palovic, damon jones, donyell marshall, jamario moon, chris mihm, darius miles, ben wallace
the perfect type of players, eh?
The Cavs put together a great supporting cast for those two seasons and with them, Lebron and the Cavs were able to lead the NBA in wins. Now that he has left Cleveland, the value and talent of those Cavs players are highlighted because Lebron can no longer lead the NBA in wins without them.
that'd be fine and dandy, except, without Lebron, they're, arguably, the worst team of ALL TIME, sir....
@ great supporting cast.....
yall are tripping.
Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...
Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...
*checks sig* oh, okay.
yes, dwayne "im gonna go over here and sit down on the bench because i just shattered my vagina" wade is better than lebron james....
cause he got a ring, right?
YO, WHATSLOSINLIKE, GET OUT OF MY HEAD , they gonna think we the same person.... thats the second time we posted identical posts
BWHAHAHAHHAAH @ EVERY DUDE WITH A LAKERS SIG SAYING THE MOST IN THIS POST
"they aint gonna make it out the east, tho"
If the mavs lost dirk , they would be BAD....like VERY BAD.
he broke his ankle this year, didnt he? they have a bench. the mavs without dirk would %+$% on the cavs this year.
in Cleveland's defense they've lost big z,shaq,varejao, and mo for a good chunk of the season. They get mo n varajao back with the first overall and and some notable free agents and they can make a run for the 8th seed next year.
see, the thing is, you think mo and anderson are good players.....they are only as good as lebron made them look.
they are trash. both of them are garbage.
there or not, they wouldnt win anymore games. Mo williams scored 2 points against the lakers....he is trash.
LeBron shoots a higher percentage from the floor and from the 3 pt line. Does that make LeBron a better scorer than Durant?
i was gonna say the same thing about the stats he posted...
As I already stated, Miami is STILL a Top 4 team in the East if LeBron doesn't play another game this year. The combo of Wade/Bosh > Felton/Stoudemire & Johnson/Smith.
THEY HAVE NOBODY ELSE AFTER WADE AND BOSH THO, LITERALLY NOBODY
THEYRE PLAYING Z, ERIC DAMPIER AND CARLOS ARROYO, THOSE DUDES ARE BUMSSSSSSSS
THEY GOT LIKE 8 PEOPLE SIGNED TO 500K CONTRACTS!
the lebronless heat are not THAT good of a team!
you wear size 8.5, tho
When Kobe had a garbage team(back in 05-06), he was almost avg 40 ppg, had 81 points, had 50+ like 10 straight games, and was just going off on every single team in the league. So to say that Lebron was/is the best player in the world doesn't really even make sense.
.....he was ready-to-shoot-jack, and crying on ESPN about being traded.....AND they didnt lead any leauge in winning, NOR did they make the playoffs.....thanks for strengthening my argument.
He rely on 90% of his size, referre and athleticism to get to the rim. I want to see how his game is going to be when he's around 29 or 30 before i consider him the best. But for now the best is MR. BLACK MAMBA
YES, this is my personal favorite argument. You're basically saying hes a once-in-a-lifetime rarity of an athletic specimen...and that, even with total dedication and 24/7 practice your entire life, you could never be lebron..99.99% of humans in history cannot be lebron. he is technically sound, he is mentally sound, and his physical stature is RARE...
thanks for basically saying he's one-of-a-kind...
"hes really big, strong and fast, that's the only reason he dunks on people with ease...."
He can score you 50, get you a triple double, lead the team in rebounds, dominate on defense, run the offense, and is a leader on and off the court. Also keep in mind this is his FIRST YEAR with the Miami Heat, with a new coach, and new teammates. He is brand new to their system and is still putting up career averages in every major statistical category. No other NBA player is doing this. LeBron makes the Miami Heat a CHAMPIONSHIP team.
great post.
your stupid, when lebron doesnt have his athletic abillity to rely on and actually has to use his fundamentals, we'll see whos better, Kobe or Lebron.
ironic, your stupid, eh?
when lebron doesnt have his "athletic ability" (like he's going to just die on the court or something) to rely on, and has to use fundamentals, KOBE WILL BE 50
swear,some of the posts in this thread are absolutely idiotic and make no sense and are some of the stupidest things I've ever read on S&T
i mean, i've brought a logically sound argument in here....these 17-year-old minds can't process it and just say the darnest things...
I will only consider Lebron good once he can hit fadeaway threes
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That would imply that Bron isn't "as valuable" to the Heat as he was to the Cavs. I'm pretty sure if you take any superstar off their current team that was totally built around what they do, similar (maybe not as bad as the Cavs now) would suffer similar fates.
durant off oklahoma city...not as bad as cavs
kobe off lakers....not as bad as cavs
howard off magic....not as bad as cavs
maybe if you took chris paul off the hornets, they'd be cavs-level bummy....MAYBE
no team in the NBA would be as bad as the cavs minus their "superstar"...maybe the wizard...BWHAHAHAH
good point. plus that piston team were a better defensive team than orlando and boston. yet bron just took it to them and i thought that 09-10 cavs teams had better chemistry and better team than that team in 07.
nah, i think boston was a better defensive team than the pistons...
PLUS, the pistons got SHOCKED.....lebron james BECAME lebron james that series....
they had no idea that was going to happen
boston saw THAT for like 4 years....they had a gameplan which was perfectly executed...
lebron james took tayshaun prince's soul...
and youre actually CRITICIZING him for NOT taking everyone else's soul every time he's in a playoff series?
, SOME *%!$#+ AINT NEVER TOOK NOBODY'S SOUL!
"oh, you can backflip? big whoop, you should be able to backflip instead of walk to get to work in the morning.."
to jump to the conclusion that Lebron leaving the Cavs immediately lead to 60 wins to maybe 10 wins is assinine
please, what would YOU contribute it to.....please, don't give me 14 different contibuting factors...
what is MOST responsible for their DRAMATIC contrast between the BEST team and the WORST team in ONE off-season?
You want to know why Wally and the Likes of Anthony Parker were celebrated signings, it's because they filled a ROLE that needed to be filled, things that you do when building a championship team.
the role of unathletic garbage guards who can barely jog downcourt, let alone create a shot? oh, okay...
Cleveland brought in the perfect type of players
drew gooden, larry hughes, sasha palovic, damon jones, donyell marshall, jamario moon, chris mihm, darius miles, ben wallace
the perfect type of players, eh?
The Cavs put together a great supporting cast for those two seasons and with them, Lebron and the Cavs were able to lead the NBA in wins. Now that he has left Cleveland, the value and talent of those Cavs players are highlighted because Lebron can no longer lead the NBA in wins without them.
that'd be fine and dandy, except, without Lebron, they're, arguably, the worst team of ALL TIME, sir....
@ great supporting cast.....
yall are tripping.
Not when there's players like Durant, Rose, Kobe playing at a high level...
Lebron might not even be the best player on his own team...
*checks sig* oh, okay.
yes, dwayne "im gonna go over here and sit down on the bench because i just shattered my vagina" wade is better than lebron james....
cause he got a ring, right?
YO, WHATSLOSINLIKE, GET OUT OF MY HEAD , they gonna think we the same person.... thats the second time we posted identical posts
BWHAHAHAHHAAH @ EVERY DUDE WITH A LAKERS SIG SAYING THE MOST IN THIS POST
"they aint gonna make it out the east, tho"
If the mavs lost dirk , they would be BAD....like VERY BAD.
he broke his ankle this year, didnt he? they have a bench. the mavs without dirk would %+$% on the cavs this year.
in Cleveland's defense they've lost big z,shaq,varejao, and mo for a good chunk of the season. They get mo n varajao back with the first overall and and some notable free agents and they can make a run for the 8th seed next year.
see, the thing is, you think mo and anderson are good players.....they are only as good as lebron made them look.
they are trash. both of them are garbage.
there or not, they wouldnt win anymore games. Mo williams scored 2 points against the lakers....he is trash.
LeBron shoots a higher percentage from the floor and from the 3 pt line. Does that make LeBron a better scorer than Durant?
i was gonna say the same thing about the stats he posted...
As I already stated, Miami is STILL a Top 4 team in the East if LeBron doesn't play another game this year. The combo of Wade/Bosh > Felton/Stoudemire & Johnson/Smith.
THEY HAVE NOBODY ELSE AFTER WADE AND BOSH THO, LITERALLY NOBODY
THEYRE PLAYING Z, ERIC DAMPIER AND CARLOS ARROYO, THOSE DUDES ARE BUMSSSSSSSS
THEY GOT LIKE 8 PEOPLE SIGNED TO 500K CONTRACTS!
the lebronless heat are not THAT good of a team!
you wear size 8.5, tho
When Kobe had a garbage team(back in 05-06), he was almost avg 40 ppg, had 81 points, had 50+ like 10 straight games, and was just going off on every single team in the league. So to say that Lebron was/is the best player in the world doesn't really even make sense.
.....he was ready-to-shoot-jack, and crying on ESPN about being traded.....AND they didnt lead any leauge in winning, NOR did they make the playoffs.....thanks for strengthening my argument.
He rely on 90% of his size, referre and athleticism to get to the rim. I want to see how his game is going to be when he's around 29 or 30 before i consider him the best. But for now the best is MR. BLACK MAMBA
YES, this is my personal favorite argument. You're basically saying hes a once-in-a-lifetime rarity of an athletic specimen...and that, even with total dedication and 24/7 practice your entire life, you could never be lebron..99.99% of humans in history cannot be lebron. he is technically sound, he is mentally sound, and his physical stature is RARE...
thanks for basically saying he's one-of-a-kind...
"hes really big, strong and fast, that's the only reason he dunks on people with ease...."
He can score you 50, get you a triple double, lead the team in rebounds, dominate on defense, run the offense, and is a leader on and off the court. Also keep in mind this is his FIRST YEAR with the Miami Heat, with a new coach, and new teammates. He is brand new to their system and is still putting up career averages in every major statistical category. No other NBA player is doing this. LeBron makes the Miami Heat a CHAMPIONSHIP team.
great post.
your stupid, when lebron doesnt have his athletic abillity to rely on and actually has to use his fundamentals, we'll see whos better, Kobe or Lebron.
ironic, your stupid, eh?
when lebron doesnt have his "athletic ability" (like he's going to just die on the court or something) to rely on, and has to use fundamentals, KOBE WILL BE 50
swear,some of the posts in this thread are absolutely idiotic and make no sense and are some of the stupidest things I've ever read on S&T
i mean, i've brought a logically sound argument in here....these 17-year-old minds can't process it and just say the darnest things...
I will only consider Lebron good once he can hit fadeaway threes
,
You're not from around here are you?Originally Posted by CP1708
We know this for sure?
You're not from around here are you?Originally Posted by CP1708
We know this for sure?
Jamison
Parker
Moon
Hickson
Gibson
and the best player on that list is JJ Hixon, and JJ Hixon is a ROLE PLAYER.....THAT is a decent "peice" to help your superstaars win....
Jamison is 90-years old and shoots tear-drop runners at 6'9"
Parker is garbage, been garbage...he has the handles of a 2nd grader...
Moon? i dont even need to honor him with a comment
gibson is DECENT at his best....and TRASH at his worse....ive seen dude play like a decent role player, and ive also seen dude play like JV bench warmer...
you guys are trying to argue because you dont agree, which is fine, you can not agree, but bringing up the talent of players on the cavs roster is not the way to argue your point...
these dudes are notorious bums....
80 percent of lebron jame's former teammates in cleveland couldnt start for ANY nba team...
and i think im being generous here...
look at all the players from the team he took to the finals, do ANY of them start for ANY team? did they start the year they were all traded? do they even still play basketball? (sasha? jones? snow?)
Larry Hughes
Drew Gooden
Sasha Palovic
Eric Snow
Damon Jones
Z
none of them start.
the best player he's played with got like 4 minutes in 3 years, and that's shannon brown...(who, i admit, kobe turned into a MONSTER....another reason why a kobe-less lakers team is eons ahead of lebron-less cavs)
lets look at the CURRENT cavs...
can anybody name ONE player NOT named JJ Hixon who could start for ANY other NBA team?
name the player then what team he'd start for....
(and JJ couldnt start for any of the better teams)
THEY DONT HAVE A SUPERSTAR?
THEY DONT EVEN HAVE STARTER-QUALITY PLAYERS
"decent role players"
Jamison
Parker
Moon
Hickson
Gibson
and the best player on that list is JJ Hixon, and JJ Hixon is a ROLE PLAYER.....THAT is a decent "peice" to help your superstaars win....
Jamison is 90-years old and shoots tear-drop runners at 6'9"
Parker is garbage, been garbage...he has the handles of a 2nd grader...
Moon? i dont even need to honor him with a comment
gibson is DECENT at his best....and TRASH at his worse....ive seen dude play like a decent role player, and ive also seen dude play like JV bench warmer...
you guys are trying to argue because you dont agree, which is fine, you can not agree, but bringing up the talent of players on the cavs roster is not the way to argue your point...
these dudes are notorious bums....
80 percent of lebron jame's former teammates in cleveland couldnt start for ANY nba team...
and i think im being generous here...
look at all the players from the team he took to the finals, do ANY of them start for ANY team? did they start the year they were all traded? do they even still play basketball? (sasha? jones? snow?)
Larry Hughes
Drew Gooden
Sasha Palovic
Eric Snow
Damon Jones
Z
none of them start.
the best player he's played with got like 4 minutes in 3 years, and that's shannon brown...(who, i admit, kobe turned into a MONSTER....another reason why a kobe-less lakers team is eons ahead of lebron-less cavs)
lets look at the CURRENT cavs...
can anybody name ONE player NOT named JJ Hixon who could start for ANY other NBA team?
name the player then what team he'd start for....
(and JJ couldnt start for any of the better teams)
THEY DONT HAVE A SUPERSTAR?
THEY DONT EVEN HAVE STARTER-QUALITY PLAYERS
"decent role players"
