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How did Kobe end up in this thread?
Okay, can we FINALLY admit.....
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How did Kobe end up in this thread?
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I just don't see how it is his fault that his team didn't win it all. But there is no need to get into that.
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I just don't see how it is his fault that his team didn't win it all. But there is no need to get into that.
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Originally Posted by fearthenut
Out of all the BS you've spewed in this thread for over numerous days now, this might be the funniest of your comments.
No voting member in their right mind should vote for Lebron as MVP, regardless if he's the best player in the league. Clearly, the best player in the league (which he is, I'm not denying this), doesn't always win this YEARLY award. Year-to-year. To even begin to consider the concept that someone would let a previous year influence their opinion, much less the record of another team, is asinine and foolish.
While Lebron certainly has among the most impressive stats in the league (or the most impressive stats if you want to argue that too, whatever), a key component behind those stats is that he's playing with a comparable talent in DWade. DWade shoulders the nightly load as well. Lebron's nightly duties and priorities to his team are less than others, say Rose/Durant/etc. (Notice how I didn't even bring up Bosh)
I'm not arguing that Rose should win or Durant should win, but to think that Lebron deserves to win is idiotic.
Also, keep in mind the mental aspect which voters consider. People didn't want to go to Lebron's team, he went to someone else's. He admitted defeat. I'm not making a case for a double standard here, but you can guarantee that voters will remember this notion (even though it was last year) more than any consideration of the lowly Cavs currently. You can argue that this may not be true, but then you are in the overwhelming minority, admittedly. Seemingly, Lebron isn't even the most valuable player on his own team, REGARDLESS of stats. There is a mental aspect in play here, and Lebron couldn't be on a worse end of it.
People want to vote for an alpha dog, a man who doesn't admit defeat, a man who shoulders THE MAJORITY of his team's workload and delivers on a nightly basis.
A man who doesn't fit those characteristics is not an NBA MVP. Lebron James is not that man.
*Waits to get response with counterarguments from past MVP's (although none of which share this same context or situation, therefore nullifying their involvement in my argument), and also a mention of ex-Cav teammates, and 14*
bruh, your argument isnt even worth the time it takes to type out...and thats the FIRST time ive done this on NT since 2003.
you have the stalest argument of all, ITS WADES TEAM
dude, dwayne wade got bounced in the first round of every playoff since he won a ship.....
he asked bron to come down....just like bron asked to come down....
if its wade's team and he "shoulders" the responsibility....
WHY DOES LEBRON HANDLE THE BALL MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE TEAM?
"its because he runs a hybrid point guard..."
its because the offense is going to run through him.......he is going to LEAD the team.....
you sound most upset of all posters so far.
is that also your screen name? is that why you took offense to me clowning my NT stalker?
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Originally Posted by fearthenut
Out of all the BS you've spewed in this thread for over numerous days now, this might be the funniest of your comments.
No voting member in their right mind should vote for Lebron as MVP, regardless if he's the best player in the league. Clearly, the best player in the league (which he is, I'm not denying this), doesn't always win this YEARLY award. Year-to-year. To even begin to consider the concept that someone would let a previous year influence their opinion, much less the record of another team, is asinine and foolish.
While Lebron certainly has among the most impressive stats in the league (or the most impressive stats if you want to argue that too, whatever), a key component behind those stats is that he's playing with a comparable talent in DWade. DWade shoulders the nightly load as well. Lebron's nightly duties and priorities to his team are less than others, say Rose/Durant/etc. (Notice how I didn't even bring up Bosh)
I'm not arguing that Rose should win or Durant should win, but to think that Lebron deserves to win is idiotic.
Also, keep in mind the mental aspect which voters consider. People didn't want to go to Lebron's team, he went to someone else's. He admitted defeat. I'm not making a case for a double standard here, but you can guarantee that voters will remember this notion (even though it was last year) more than any consideration of the lowly Cavs currently. You can argue that this may not be true, but then you are in the overwhelming minority, admittedly. Seemingly, Lebron isn't even the most valuable player on his own team, REGARDLESS of stats. There is a mental aspect in play here, and Lebron couldn't be on a worse end of it.
People want to vote for an alpha dog, a man who doesn't admit defeat, a man who shoulders THE MAJORITY of his team's workload and delivers on a nightly basis.
A man who doesn't fit those characteristics is not an NBA MVP. Lebron James is not that man.
*Waits to get response with counterarguments from past MVP's (although none of which share this same context or situation, therefore nullifying their involvement in my argument), and also a mention of ex-Cav teammates, and 14*
bruh, your argument isnt even worth the time it takes to type out...and thats the FIRST time ive done this on NT since 2003.
you have the stalest argument of all, ITS WADES TEAM
dude, dwayne wade got bounced in the first round of every playoff since he won a ship.....
he asked bron to come down....just like bron asked to come down....
if its wade's team and he "shoulders" the responsibility....
WHY DOES LEBRON HANDLE THE BALL MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE ON THE TEAM?
"its because he runs a hybrid point guard..."
its because the offense is going to run through him.......he is going to LEAD the team.....
you sound most upset of all posters so far.
is that also your screen name? is that why you took offense to me clowning my NT stalker?
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yea one most important game of last year... lol
dont tell me if kobe outperformed bron in playoffs...kobe played well but ain't touching bron
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yea one most important game of last year... lol
dont tell me if kobe outperformed bron in playoffs...kobe played well but ain't touching bron
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*checks avy*
YOU ARE THE SALTIEST OF ALL, ARENT YOU?
here, folks, we have a clevelander, or a suburb of cleveland, showing JUST HOW SALTY the most saltiest of all are
awwwww, YOU CANT REP CLEVELAND x LEBRON JAMES ANYMORE!?!?!?!?
HE COULDNT HACK IT?
AWWWW, POOR BABY
MAYBE JENNER OR SULLENGER, because you guys are 100 percent going to get the 1st pick, WILL HACK IT FOR YOU
MY GUESS?
YOU GUYS MOVE TO ANOTHER CITY FROM THE BACK TO BACK TO BACK 65 LOSS SEASONS
THE CURSE OF LEBRON JAMES, AN AKRON BOY
woody hayes would slap the lame out of you for having him in your avy
(and im a tOSU alum, boy)
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*checks avy*
YOU ARE THE SALTIEST OF ALL, ARENT YOU?
here, folks, we have a clevelander, or a suburb of cleveland, showing JUST HOW SALTY the most saltiest of all are
awwwww, YOU CANT REP CLEVELAND x LEBRON JAMES ANYMORE!?!?!?!?
HE COULDNT HACK IT?
AWWWW, POOR BABY
MAYBE JENNER OR SULLENGER, because you guys are 100 percent going to get the 1st pick, WILL HACK IT FOR YOU
MY GUESS?
YOU GUYS MOVE TO ANOTHER CITY FROM THE BACK TO BACK TO BACK 65 LOSS SEASONS
THE CURSE OF LEBRON JAMES, AN AKRON BOY
woody hayes would slap the lame out of you for having him in your avy
(and im a tOSU alum, boy)
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because they played next to the greatest basketball player to breathe...
NOW, without lebron,
WE SEE MANY PROBLEMS WITH MO, VAREJAO AND JAMISON, DURING THE REGULAR SEASON, DONT WE?
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because they played next to the greatest basketball player to breathe...
NOW, without lebron,
WE SEE MANY PROBLEMS WITH MO, VAREJAO AND JAMISON, DURING THE REGULAR SEASON, DONT WE?
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top 4 in the east?
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top 4 in the east?
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These are LeBrons post-season averages
29.3 PPG,8.4 RPG and 7.3 APG including 6 triple doubles (1 of which he had in his last playoff game vs the Celtics,27-19-10)
Saying that he can't perform in the playoffs is absolutely idiotic when he's put up the best playoff numbers since MJ.
29.3 PPG,8.4 RPG and 7.3 APG including 6 triple doubles (1 of which he had in his last playoff game vs the Celtics,27-19-10)
Saying that he can't perform in the playoffs is absolutely idiotic when he's put up the best playoff numbers since MJ.
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These are LeBrons post-season averages
29.3 PPG,8.4 RPG and 7.3 APG including 6 triple doubles (1 of which he had in his last playoff game vs the Celtics,27-19-10)
Saying that he can't perform in the playoffs is absolutely idiotic when he's put up the best playoff numbers since MJ.
29.3 PPG,8.4 RPG and 7.3 APG including 6 triple doubles (1 of which he had in his last playoff game vs the Celtics,27-19-10)
Saying that he can't perform in the playoffs is absolutely idiotic when he's put up the best playoff numbers since MJ.
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Everyone should just calm the eff down and agree to disagree
LeBron supporters will always support LeBron. Somehow, Kobe and MJ always get thrown in, and Kobe riders will always support Kobe. The ones with sense will not get their points across to the one's who won't listen.
Every single point that's been brought up in this thread has already been brought up 352542546 times in the last year. Stop it... or at least wait til the playoffs/finals where at least there is some substance.
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LeBron supporters will always support LeBron. Somehow, Kobe and MJ always get thrown in, and Kobe riders will always support Kobe. The ones with sense will not get their points across to the one's who won't listen.
Every single point that's been brought up in this thread has already been brought up 352542546 times in the last year. Stop it... or at least wait til the playoffs/finals where at least there is some substance.
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Everyone should just calm the eff down and agree to disagree
LeBron supporters will always support LeBron. Somehow, Kobe and MJ always get thrown in, and Kobe riders will always support Kobe. The ones with sense will not get their points across to the one's who won't listen.
Every single point that's been brought up in this thread has already been brought up 352542546 times in the last year. Stop it... or at least wait til the playoffs/finals where at least there is some substance.
/rant
LeBron supporters will always support LeBron. Somehow, Kobe and MJ always get thrown in, and Kobe riders will always support Kobe. The ones with sense will not get their points across to the one's who won't listen.
Every single point that's been brought up in this thread has already been brought up 352542546 times in the last year. Stop it... or at least wait til the playoffs/finals where at least there is some substance.
/rant
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what is this? 2008?
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what is this? 2008?
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Did you even watch the playoffs? I hate Lebron but his teammates were seriously TRASH in the postseason. The entire team pretty much disappeared and left it up to Lebron. This isn't NBA2K where you can just use 1 dude to demolish elite teams
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Did you even watch the playoffs? I hate Lebron but his teammates were seriously TRASH in the postseason. The entire team pretty much disappeared and left it up to Lebron. This isn't NBA2K where you can just use 1 dude to demolish elite teams
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best player in the L for 3 years now, and just creating more and more separation with each year.
he just really needs to win a ring soon. even if he doesn't win MVP this year, he'll win 4-5 more before he finishes his career anyway. he needs RINGS.
he just really needs to win a ring soon. even if he doesn't win MVP this year, he'll win 4-5 more before he finishes his career anyway. he needs RINGS.
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best player in the L for 3 years now, and just creating more and more separation with each year.
he just really needs to win a ring soon. even if he doesn't win MVP this year, he'll win 4-5 more before he finishes his career anyway. he needs RINGS.
he just really needs to win a ring soon. even if he doesn't win MVP this year, he'll win 4-5 more before he finishes his career anyway. he needs RINGS.
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He's clearly the most effective player in the L right damn now... but I'm one of those guys that believes you don't change the guard until the current one ain't "THEE man" anymore. They did it to MJ. They're ding it to Bean. so EYE'M doing it to Bron. And with back-to-back chips, I'm not the only one unready to relegate my fav. player ever to past tense discussions of greatness. When you still got commercials calling you the best player on the planet (along with NBA legends), it still counts. So shut up enPHAN. I hate your stinking thread. Boo Ohio.
