Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen
Alright but you're acting as if guys like Andy Dalton and Cam Newton (who was a loser last season, not individually, as far as team goes) grow on trees. It's not like the 9ers can just go ahead and gamble on Manning and hope that a talent like Dalton or Newton or even freaking Sam Bradford falls into their lap.
Again Alex Smith has been a 9er for a while, all of the sudden Harbaugh takes the reins and he's suddenly a decent qb. That says something, there's still promise there and honestly if you've invested in a guy as long as the 9ers have been then it would be absolutely pointless to jump ship after he finally shows up. Dude nearly took his team to the Superbowl and honestly, them boys would've put it ON the Patriots. Brady would've been rolling around in the dirt all night. Alex Smith would've actually made mince meat out of that Patriot defense hitting Vernon Davis all game long, but I digress....
And reading comprehension is a virtue my man, I said "potentially" running on fumes. For every report we've had of him improving we've had reports of an unreported surgery, the possibility of him needing another surgery, his arm being referred to as a "wet-noodle" (which you yourself pointed out) and so on. Really we don't know what we have as far as Manning at the moment, that's my point. I'm not saying he's done, I'm saying he might be. That's the reason why people are a bit apprehensive and why we've seen organizations like the 9ers not wanting to take the chance.
Honestly... Reading comprehension be damned there hasn't been a report in the last month that has said he needed any additional surgery... As far as his Arm strength all of the reports that have come out since he's pubicaly went on record combating Irsay have all been positive increasingly so each and every time he's showcased it. With the latest leaving people saying that he's Peyton. So to even say "potentially running on fumes" makes no sense.
Please stop saying he nearly took his team to the Superbowl... That Defense Took Them There... That Defense Turned N.O over 5x... That Defense held the Giants to 85 rushing yards... That Defense held The Giants to 17pts in regulation. He Wasn't The Reason The 9ers Were There. Furthermore had they had a slightly above average they would've been in the bowl. Had he completed just 2 of those 3rd downs they're in the superbowl... Do you see how crazy that is... if he goes 3/13 on 3rd down they win that game.
As for hoping QB's just fall in their laps... Andy Dalton went in the
2nd round... Taylor Yates went in the 5th... Kolb went in the 2nd
round... Cassell in 7th round... The point I'm making is that these are
QB's that are either equal or better performers than Alex Smith who was
drafted #1 overall over Aaron Rodgers. Yet you're making a case that after he's worth sticking with after having a average yr for lower middle teir QBs for the first time in 7yrs, instead of taking a chance on a 1st ballot HOFer who has been medically cleared. Not to mention he never suffered any Arm or leg injuries... It took him 7yrs to go from horrible to below average and this is the person you're willing to give your Superbowl window to?!?!? I don't quite understand this logic.
I mean come on man, are you serious right now? Manning is Manning? How do we know? I mean when we get some footage of him (actually him) throwing the ball, taking part in full practice, etc then I'm on board. But until then I totally understand why some franchises are apprehensive about going all in.
BTW aside from obviously Dalton who is a beast, none of those QBs you mentioned can come in and win a title for any organization, not even the 9ers. As stacked as the 9ers are their window of time to win a Superbowl will only be open for 4 or 5 years. You're going to take 2 of those years to gamble on a potentially injury prone QB? Then if it doesn't work out you're going to take however many years it would take to draft a decent QB and cultivate him into a competent QB? By then guys like Justin Smith, Vernon Davis, Carlos Rodgers, Patrick Willis etc might be long gone or old.
They have time but that doesn't mean they have all the time in the world.
There is footage of him throwing the ball but alright.
You're vastly over-valuing Smith if you feel that he can get them to a Superbowl but a healthy Cassel or Kolb couldn't. All they have to do is manage the game and not turn the ball over. We've seen evidence that each of them can do so if surrounded by talent. Cassell had a few people questioning just how good Brady was after he was able to take that Patriots squad to the playoffs in his absence & Kolb looked good once upon a time in Philly.
My point being the league is full of QB's better than Alex Smith and QB's come in just as good if not better than him all the time. The opportunity to get a Peyton Manning comes along once in a blue moon. You don't say oh nah I have an Alex Smith I'm Good... You take that opportunity.
Originally Posted by Bigmike23
soooo nobody read thisthis bandwagon bum
As much as I hate rex ryan, I think Sanchez is ok. Most of the Jet offense problems can be attributed to that o-line, Brick & Mangold included. They couldn't even get thier run game going. If Sanchez wasn't getting sacked, he was certainly batted around or pressured a ton. Can't wait to watch them implode again this season.
Indeed.
