Quentin Tarantino's Django Unchained (a Spaghetti Western) scheduled for release Christmas 2012

[rashi]

You dudes are too much.

 

[gllahone84]

"American Slavery Was Not A Sergio Leone Spaghetti Western.It Was A Holocaust.My Ancestors Are Slaves. Stolen From Africa. I Will Honor Them," Lee wrote, which he then followed with responses to fans both critical and supportive of his stance.

 

[rashi]

Waaaaaaaaaaah race card.
Open your got damn mind to art and film.
"Dead negro storage" is a statement reflecting the views of a white racist criminal in a racist time.
only blacks can write a movie where they say the n word give me a break.
whites can't write a movie that involves racism, or african american culture
and i guess in order to validate my pissed off opinion I need to state to everyone "I'm black if it matters"
because god forbid I was white I guess my opinion would hold zero value on the issue.

Nice post. Mel Brooks made a living off of mocking racism.

 

[thenoguy]

yea that was spikes reason. Imagine if I made a movie about jews escaping from a concentration camp and subjecting their nazi tormentors to horrors, while using witty dialogue and humorous situations. There'd be a huge backlash.
The n-word thing came about from Spikes general dislike of tarantino

Inglorious Basterds may not be exactly what you described, but it's pretty damn close.

 

[hymen man]

Just checked my 3 main theaters and none of them have a midnight showing tonight, *****

 

[venom lyrix]

I'm watching Django and Les Mis tomorrow, probably back-to-back

 

[venom lyrix]

the amount of ignorance in this thread, and dudes dying to play the race card and cry tears of racism is ridiculous.

 

[tr1ll]

Someone should tell Spike and Tavis that any publicity is good publicity.

 

[ksteezy]

yea that was spikes reason. Imagine if I made a movie about jews escaping from a concentration camp and subjecting their nazi tormentors to horrors, while using witty dialogue and humorous situations. There'd be a huge backlash.
The n-word thing came about from Spikes general dislike of tarantino

Is been done, it's called Inglorious Bastards, it's a great movie, very entertaining and I don't remember the Jewish community screaming for Tarantino's head back then.

It's a movie, get over it...you hate the idea so much, don't pay to see it....simple as that.

 

[blakep267]

yea that was spikes reason. Imagine if I made a movie about jews escaping from a concentration camp and subjecting their nazi tormentors to horrors, while using witty dialogue and humorous situations. There'd be a huge backlash.

The n-word thing came about from Spikes general dislike of tarantino

Inglorious Basterds may not be exactly what you described, but it's pretty damn close.

its close, but Im talkng about having hlocaust victims escape the camps, and then subject their nazi tormentors to the horrors. Gas chambers, ovens etc. That kind of movie, no matter how well done would be upsetting for alot of people. IB didnt really touch on that facet

 

[deleted]

its close, but Im talkng about having hlocaust victims escape the camps, and then subject their nazi tormentors to the horrors. Gas chambers, ovens etc. That kind of movie, no matter how well done would be upsetting for alot of people. IB didnt really touch on that facet

They exist, but they are definitely not well made.

 

[thenoguy]

So a movie with a bunch of Jews shooting Hitler until his face rips apart isn't close enough for you? Come on now.

 

[rico x hood]

so what if he made a comedy about school shootings? would that be just fine?

If he made it in about 10 years from now and there were no huge school shootings in that time then he'd perfectly fine and it wouldn't be seen as callous and inappropriate by the majority.

 

[blakep267]

So a movie with a bunch of Jews shooting Hitler until his face rips apart isn't close enough for you? Come on now.

I think you missed the point completely. Im comparing the sensitive subject of slavery, to another extremely sensitive subject in the holocaust and concentration camps. And if you think for a second that a django-seque movie revolving around that wouldnt garner outrage then you are kidding yourself

 

[thenoguy]

I think you missed the point completely. Im comparing the sensitive subject of slavery, to another extremely sensitive subject in the holocaust and concentration camps. And if you think for a second that a django-seque movie revolving around that wouldnt garner outrage then you are kidding yourself

I didn't miss the point at all, you're just being overly specific. Inglorious Basterds is absolutely about the Holocaust, even if they don't show concentration camps. The main heroine character hid in a basement from Nazis who took her family, then burned down an entire theater full of Nazis. 

 

[bleach]

If he made it in about 10 years from now and there were no huge school shootings in that time then he'd perfectly fine and it wouldn't be seen as callous and inappropriate by the majority.

maybe not the majority once it's no longer fresh in their minds

I doubt it would be a big hit in newtown though

 

[blakep267]

I think you missed the point completely. Im comparing the sensitive subject of slavery, to another extremely sensitive subject in the holocaust and concentration camps. And if you think for a second that a django-seque movie revolving around that wouldnt garner outrage then you are kidding yourself

I didn't miss the point at all, you're just being overly specific. Inglorious Basterds is absolutely about the Holocaust, even if they don't show concentration camps. The main heroine character hid in a basement from Nazi's who took her family, then burned down an entire theater full of Nazis. 

inglorious basterds is about several different plots to kill hitler. You have shoshana plotting to use her theater, the basterds who are just randomly killing nazis to strike fear, and the british plan with vons hammersmark( which eventually involves the basterds).

 

[DCAllAfrican]

I kinda see both sides though because I had a similar situation that im curious what people think where I woulda swore dude was racist .
I had a group project back in school towards the end of the semester, we all seemed to be working fine together, no problems.
One day we're sitting at the library and a file someone had got deleted.
"******g N. " (hard er)
Wasn't directed at me, more so the situation and the computer but in my eyes it instantly came off as racist.
I had no idea how to handle that situation. In my heart I figured he was just a pos racist on the low, and it slipped cause thats the kind of talk he speaks with his friends.
Curious how some of yall would've handled that?

The hell? Was he the only non-black in the group? How many were in the group.

Funny THAT was the first thing that came to his mind.

You should have spoke up man.

 

[thenoguy]

inglorious basterds is about several different plots to kill hitler. You have shoshana plotting to use her theater, the basterds who are just randomly killing nazis to strike fear, and the british plan with vons hammersmark( which eventually involves the basterds).

Okay? I've seen the movie. Your point was that a movie about Jews killing Nazis in a horrific manner would garner outrage, which you acknowledge is a MAJOR part of Inglorious Basterds. Not to mention you haven't even seen Django Unchained.

 

[blakep267]

inglorious basterds is about several different plots to kill hitler. You have shoshana plotting to use her theater, the basterds who are just randomly killing nazis to strike fear, and the british plan with vons hammersmark( which eventually involves the basterds).

Okay? I've seen the movie. Your point was that a movie about Jews killing Nazis in a horrific manner would garner outrage, which you acknowledge is a MAJOR part of Inglorious Basterds. Not to mention you haven't even seen Django Unchained.

im pretty sure I said holocaust concentration camp survivors and having the camps be a part of the movie. Thats where the outrage would come from

 

[thenoguy]

Why do you think that specific addition would cause more outrage though? Shoshanna escaped from being put in the camps in the first place. It's thematically the same.

 

[ksteezy]

I didn't miss the point at all, you're just being overly specific. Inglorious Basterds is absolutely about the Holocaust, even if they don't show concentration camps. The main heroine character hid in a basement from Nazis who took her family, then burned down an entire theater full of Nazis. 

Pretty much.

Here is what bothers me, IMO Tyler Perry puts out some of the biggest garbage with stereotypes being thrown around left and right about his own people, yet the black community be the first to support his work and literally made this man a multimillionaire....it's obvious the only reason this is even an issue is because a white man sitting in that directors chair, let the man do his work...at the end of the day we the consumers is what he depends on....you don't like him, don't support him.

 

[racingstripes]

I don't recall "the black community" being one body with one general consensus & one strict opinion...

 

[bleach]

it's kind of funny to me how in this thread you have people who aren't black, that feel entitled to tell a black man what he should or shouldn't find offensive

Spike was born in the 50s and has probably experienced multiple instances of racism. His perspective is completely different from anybodies in this thread, so please stop pretending you have all the answers from your limited experiences in this world.

 

[blakep267]

I didn't miss the point at all, you're just being overly specific. Inglorious Basterds is absolutely about the Holocaust, even if they don't show concentration camps. The main heroine character hid in a basement from Nazis who took her family, then burned down an entire theater full of Nazis. 

Pretty much.

Here is what bothers me, IMO Tyler Perry puts out some of the biggest garbage with stereotypes being thrown around left and right about his own people, yet the black community be the first to support his work and literally made this man a multimillionaire....it's obvious the only reason this is even an issue is because a white man sitting in that directors chair, let the man do his work...at the end of the day we the consumers is what he depends on....you don't like him, don't support him.

it is an issue. because let a black director try and make a movie about historical things that happened to white people and watch it not get greenlit