Rap About Nothing: Hip Hop Chat Thread

[wavycrocket]

No disrespect but you may have some of the worst taste is music possibly ever!

You're the same guy who asked if 2 Chainz was still hot a mere month ago....and said his last hit song was "Birthday Cake" (as you put it) from 2012.

Your opinion is null and void.

 

[kingsrborn]

I mean if we want to really get technical about it. Whether if they know it or not. Boosie,NBA Youngboy,Kodak Black,lil Snupe are prototypes of the Hotboys when there where young with Cash Money.

Imagine Wayne and Turk in there teens/early 20,s making music right now just starting out. Wayne surpassed Boosie. Because be improved his lyrical skill after a long period of time. I know there different in many ways.

But there just a modern version of that. Its like listening to Big Krit and knowing hes influenced by Pimp C/Outkast.Im not a huge fan of Chief Keef. But he was a trendsetter. Thot,opps,gang gang was popularized by the Chicago Culture/Drill scene.

Keef was just the first rapper out of the Chi to come out nationally with it. Now every young rapper comes out using that lingo. I like to see Sub-Cultures in Hip Hop get shine. Its like if people give Flip,Slim Thug,Paul

Wall,Chamillionaire,Mike Jones props for blowing up Texas slang/Culture. Not knowing that S.U.C,Screw,U.G.K popularized Texas lingo in the early 90,s. When the East Coast Rappers where talking bad about Southern Rappers.

First time i heard Trill was from UGK in the early 90,s. Now every Rapper known to man has used it. Samething with Hyphy. I just hate how Drill was revolved around the gang culture. Nothing cool about seeing young Black teens killing each other.

As long as Herb is alive im good. Keef definitely deserves some respect for what he brought to the table.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

It's rappers that ain't mainstream that's still poppin on some level. I don't hear **** about Chief Keef except on the internet now. I'm sure he still do his shows and all that but he fumbled. He was a kid but mistake after mistake cost him. Shoulda never signed to interscope, not showing up to a video, the mush mouth interviews. Him and his team blew it. I never messed with his music but he was on fire, he ain't close to that now at 22.


He still young but your age don't really matter in rap now. How long you been around does and sometimes fans move on to the next trend, Chief Keef ain't the "cool" _ no more.

Quick question...in 2017...what ISN'T the internet?

 

[All Ready]

600 breezy said he originated the word thot

also said it doesn't mean what people say it means

said he just made it up, it's not that deep and not a acronym

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Quick question...in 2017...what ISN'T the internet?

The difference with him is the only time people talk about him is "He doesn't get enough credit". Never anything about his new music. Even these new weirdos who have internet followings you will hear some of their music in real life, Chief Keef? Nothing. What was his last song that made any type of noise?

 

[HOU$TON]

600 breezy said he originated the word thot

also said it doesn't mean what people say it means

said he just made it up, it's not that deep and not a acronym

People just credit all of it to keef.

 

[kingsrborn]

Keef should Definitely be bigger than what he is. I Dont Like was epic. If you where around Chicago or Indiana when that came out. Then you know. When the remix came out. Radio Stations down there had that song on repeat when the weekend hit.

His Camp dropped the ball with Faneto though. That shoulve became a huge hit. I noticed Stations around the Midwest region support it. He just didn't do anything to give it major legs in my opinion. Keef shouldve paid for a couple of big name features for a Faneto remix.

Slap someone like Boosie and 1 or 2 more features that would complement that beat. It wouldve been a bigger song.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

The difference with him is the only time people talk about him is "He doesn't get enough credit". Never anything about his new music. Even these new weirdos who have internet followings you will hear some of their music in real life, Chief Keef? Nothing. What was his last song that made any type of noise?

I've never heard a SINGLE G-Eazy or Logic song in "real life". Obviously, plenty of other people have for us to know who they are.

A quick look at youtube views and play counts from various streaming outlets...say that Chief Keef is still being consumed. I haven't been in the car and heard Earned It come on the radio...haven't been "out" and heard someone blasting it from a car or kids singing it word for word. But according to YouTube...the play button has been pressed 57 million times...so doesn't that mean that people are still listening to Chief Keef?

It's incredible how the machine (or lack of) can alter the public perception of an artist. Ironically...Joe Budden is the perfect example. The Mood Muzik series was critically acclaimed EVERYWHERE...but the casual fan will stay "Joe Budden ain't been **** since Pump It Up"...because we define success by what the machine tells us success is.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Them dudes white. They don't need the black audience to hear one song.


Rich Homie is still being consumed. He got millions of views on Youtube too and he fell a lot from where he was, same with Keef. You do not need a machine to have records make some noise. I don't know why you keep bringing that up. You need a machine to reach a certain level. Keef career ain't done or none of that ****, he ain't Trinidad James but him and his team fumbled.

 

[wavycrocket]

People just credit all of it to keef.

Herb, 600 Breezy.....or whoever wouldn't even have a career if it wasn't for Keef

That lingo they started on their block wouldn't have hit worldwide if Chief Keef didn't introduce it to the masses. Keef is The Godfather of Drill Music.

It doesn't blow without him.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

By your logic...who is "popping" and doesn't have a machine behind them? What does success in the music industry mean to you?

 

[tay1]

Keef just seem doped up all the time these days . Saw his interview on the therapist, and he look like a true fiend. He just needs to put out more music and his name will be moving again.

 

[ZOMBAVELI THE DON]

everytime i watch a interview on no jumper, ham on everything, ect issa guy tb "if wasnt for keef i wouldnt b rappin" lol

 

[Maximus Meridius]

By your logic...who is "popping" and doesn't have a machine behind them? What does success in the music industry mean to you?

Don't matter who I think is popping or what I think success is. Him and his team dropped the ball to an extent. That ain't a question.

 

[HOU$TON]

Herb, 600 Breezy.....or whoever wouldn't even have a career if it wasn't for Keef

That lingo they started on their block wouldn't have hit worldwide if Chief Keef didn't introduce it to the masses. Keef is The Godfather of Drill Music.

It doesn't blow without him.

I agree and disagree also. Durk and reese had already signed a deal before keef

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Don't matter who I think is popping or what I think success is. Him and his team dropped the ball to an extent. That ain't a question.

Ok. Chief Keef and team dropped the ball.

Are you still not going to answer my question?

I agree and disagree also. Durk and reese had already signed a deal before keef

They were all in the same collective. Chief Keef was the head of that collective. Lil Durk and Lil Reese aren't getting signed...if Chief Keef isn't the face of that collective.

Alot of those Chicago dudes...even the ones that tried to kill Chief Keef...are on record as saying he's the sole reason for Drill going global.

 

[delete1234]

Speaking of yesterday's episode....how y'all feel about that Tay-K situation.

Personally, the song is fire. Story and him is wild though

It goes to show people are idiots and like when dudes do dumb ****. People like the fact that the kid killed somebody and all that...that's why they all promoting the song. "Free xyz" I called it from when I first saw the story. Kid is lost and people are just as lost.

Plies isn't influential? Y'all crazy. Mad people been stealing his flow and slang. People stole his whole style, even adlibs.

Boosie ain't as influential as the other cats.

When Ak said that Tay K song was garbage, I knew it must have been. He never says anything bad about music. He's B made and likes everything.

Keef is done for a few reasons. Everyone stole his sound so he's not important anymore. He pissed a lot of people in the industry off, they're not forgiving or forgetting. Lastly he's been cold too long. People don't care anymore.



One thing I didn't think about until Joe said it was the way More Life was handled. It made a lot of sense. They spent a lot on Views and it didn't do as expected. Don't let Hotline Bling fool you. So it makes sense to put out More Life with barely any promo and not put money into it. It'll still sell well and make more money. I was confused why Drake dropped it and kind of left it alone. Makes a lot sense.

Lol it didn't do what was expected that literally makes no sense

 

[delete1234]

Chief keef first album was fire. After that whoever was helping him make music, get beats etc left cuz dude starting making trash like it was his goal

 

[HOU$TON]

Keef has plenty of heat after finally rich

 

[tay1]

Plies is nore recognized for being a fool on social media than his music. Bruh aint influential at all.

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Chief keef first album was fire. After that whoever was helping him make music, get beats etc left cuz dude starting making trash like it was his goal

Combination of 2 two things: 1) He had a budget. The mixing, mastering, quality, etc. were all on point because the label provided him resources. 2) Young Chop. Never fix something that isn't broken. He tried to move away from Chop for a minute and the results weren't the same. Hell Young Chop was the only reason I even checked for dude really.

He does have a few post-interscope non Chop records that were huge. That Faneto **** might be his biggest record after Don't Like and Love Sosa.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I agree and disagree also. Durk and reese had already signed a deal before keef

Keef is like the Eazy E of Drill to me. Maybe it was people that was signed before him but he kicked down the door. He just ain't have somebody around him to give him some game to really capitalize on it.

Ok. Chief Keef and team dropped the ball.

Are you still not going to answer my question?

That's irrelevant, we talking about Keef.

 

[wavycrocket]

"Citgo" was a gift and a curse for Keith.





Creatively and sonically....it was a good song. However, it led to him expirmenting too much with that druggy auto tune sound. That....combined with the whole Chicago taking his sound, and his lean/designer drugs addiction caused him in a downward spiral musically.

 

[delete1234]

Citgo and kay Kay

 

[VARNELL HILL]

Speaking of Chief Keef influence...that Playboi Carti kid is one of the more blatant Keef biters out there. Luckily that Magnolia record took off for him since it was a bit different from his earlier sound. But back before he got signed when i first heard of him...son had several records that were complete carbon copy Chief Keef songs. Flows, cadences, slang....everything.