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Yup, pretty big shock. Stafon has been looking like a man with a plan all off-season. Excited to see what this kid could do.
 
Two things from Athens...

1. Richt said yesterday that he plans to get backup QB Joe Cox playing time in every game. He didn't follow that by saying that he plans on winning by 30 every week, so that means the dreaded platoon system won't die. I didn't like it with Greene/Shockley, I didn't like it last year with all four guys, and I still don't like it. Stafford earned the job. Give him the damn ball and leave it at that.

2. Once again, it appears Thomas Brown is leading the way to be the starter at RB on Sept. 1. This happens every year...Brown shows out in practice, shows nothing in a game. This year, he's even coming back from an ACL tear. Start Lumpkin, make Moreno the #2, and anything we get from Brown is a bonus.

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ESPN.com's "experts" have picked their conference winners and national champ...every one of them has USC winning the title game. East coast bias at work again... :\
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Well I'm still trying to figure out why all those backs went to SC. I know they have done good as of late, but if they recruit 3-4 backs in your class, why not go to another perenial powerhouse and try to start and win a title there.
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Yuck. I hate that all those "experts" are picking Michigan to win the Big 10. That is funny considering they have Wisconsin ranked higher as a team than Michigan. Oh well. I would love to see Michigan stay out of their headlines.
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He stay getting medical redshirts and stuff. IDK why he doesn't just give it up.
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This random thought just came up in my head...

Where did Fred Rouse end up going to school? Was he able to stay D-1 or not? Marshall/Randy Moss/FSU pipeline? :lol:
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On top of Brown being out I heard Minor is banged up and will miss a few days and Hart is pretty much being keept out.

Looks like it's all Horn right now...sure would be nice to have Max Martian on the depth chart :smh:
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Max Martin was scared of competition. The dude is at Alabama A&M. He should have stayed at Michigan and gotten a degree.

Minor tweaked an ankle and will sit for the rest of the week. Nothing too bad from what I have heard.
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Fred Rouse & Lorne Sam (PK Sam's lil brother) are out at UTEP bout to tear @#%$ up. :smh:
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I just saw that UTEPs O put up 700 yards in a scrimmage against their D. I would imagine their D is garbage but it looks like Lorne and Freddy are gonna be good WRs for them. They have 3 QBs all fighting for the spot. I would guess that Lorne and Freddy are gonna catch a double team EVERY snap. Fred is still working to get in shape. He pulled a groin in the spring and is at about 90%. Staying out of trouble and hitting the books. Fred , for now, seems to be in a better place. Coaches said he makes a catch a day that makes them shake their head and wonder how it happend. I hope they show them on TV sometime this season. Rouse has always been a favorite of mine. He did mess up BIG TIME and hopefully he will get his stuff together. Maybe a Randy Moss type resurrection.
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Max wasnt scared of comp. He didn't transfer to Alabama cause he wanted to, Max was forced out the program.

I just talked to AA I asked how the DB's were doing he said they're comin along and he's confident in the unit as of right now.

But he did say it's very hard to tell how good they are because him and MM are trashin them all day.

I don't usually get too much specific info from him because I only get to speak with him for about an hour every week and we always talk about off field stuff. And he knows anything he tells me I spread all over the forums :rofl:
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I just saw that UTEPs O put up 700 yards in a scrimmage against their D. I would imagine their D is garbage but it looks like Lorne and Freddy are gonna be good WRs for them. They have 3 QBs all fighting for the spot. I would guess that Lorne and Freddy are gonna catch a double team EVERY snap. Fred is still working to get in shape. He pulled a groin in the spring and is at about 90%. Staying out of trouble and hitting the books. Fred , for now, seems to be in a better place. Coaches said he makes a catch a day that makes them shake their head and wonder how it happend. I hope they show them on TV sometime this season. Rouse has always been a favorite of mine. He did mess up BIG TIME and hopefully he will get his stuff together. Maybe a Randy Moss type resurrection :smh:
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Randy Shannon is setting the bar high in his first year as head coach
Nobody seems to be able to get a gauge on what the realistic expectation should be for the Miami Hurricanes entering the 2007 season. Vegas has lowered the odds of the Hurricanes winning the national title from 60-1 in the spring to the current neighborhood of 30-1, depending on which casino you poll. Randy Shannon hasn't tried tempering expectations, telling boosters that he intends to win every single game.

So where is the truth? On one side or the other? 12-0 or 8-4? Or somewhere right down the middle?

Let's be honest. Miami coming off a 7-6 season is the nation's greatest mystery team.

When you look at the Hurricanes' upgraded talent and attitude, you see a potential BCS team. But depth is just thin enough in a couple spots that you also can see how quickly it could unravel due to injuries or other variables such as dropped passes or uneven play from the quarterback or defensive tackle positions.

Here is a position-by-position look at what I see when I analyze the 2007 Hurricanes.

QUARTERBACKS: Kyle Wright looks like he is starting to benefit from the coaching of Patrick Nix, who to me is unquestionably the best of the quarterback coaches Wright has had in his career. He has been more steady in workouts and isn't making the same kinds of mistakes he made in the past. Nix has been working with him quite a bit on his deep ball and it looks like he is vastly improved in that area as well. But I continue to be bothered by the fact that Wright has not been able to distance himself from Kirby Freeman, who has stayed in the race by making big plays in scrimmage situations despite combining them with some major mistakes. If Shannon and Nix name Freeman the starter, it would not be shocking. A combination of the two throughout the season might be a more likely scenario.

When you look at Freeman, the one edge he has on Wright is the ability to make big plays with his feet. But I'm just not sure that a quarterback looking to take off and run all the time is the ticket to developing a long-term functional offense under Nix.

Regardless of who plays, there is the legitimate question of whether either of these quarterbacks is good enough to lead a 10 to 12 win season. The Miami road schedule is brutal and I simply don't believe a team can hold up under it without great play from the quarterback position. We'll see how things play out. But as a final verdict, I would say let's not assume anything here. Performance from this position will be a week-to-week issue.

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RUNNING BACKS: I get excited every time I see Graig Cooper touch the ball, which is something we should see quite a bit this season if he stays healthy. Coopoer hasn't played a game yet, but already has established himself as the one guy on the Miami roster capable of changing a game with his talents. Could he be the next Devin Hester-type player at Miami? Absolutely. Look for him to get plenty of extra touches out in the open field in the passing game.

I'll go out on a limb here and say that if he stays healthy, Cooper will make a three-game difference over 2006 by himself.

Javarris James will continue to be a workhorse and should be the back of choice in goal line situations to take advantage of his power running style. Look for James and Cooper to be in the game together quite a bit. Charlie Jones remains a quality option off the bench. Derron Thomas looks better than he ever has this fall, but hasn't that always been the case. Thomas will light it up in a scrimmage and then disappear for six months. We'll see what role he plays this year. Freshman Lee Chambers was also quite impressive in the couple practices in which I watched him. I am not sure how much if any time he will see this year, but he will be an exciting weapon in the future. And fellow freshman Shawnbrey McNeal may have the most speed of any back and could emerge with some playing time this year.

Until we see the Nix offense in action, it is hard to get a finger on the role of fullback Jerrell Mabry. The fullback has essentially been removed from the offense, so Mabry essentially is competing as an H-back with Chris Zellner and Dedrick Epps. Mabry could emerge as a force in the short yardage offense. But we just don't really know how often Nix will use a fullback.

In general, I feel real good about the running back position as long as Cooper stays healthy. Nix will have a lot of options to creatively use the talent available to him and Miami now again has a gamebreaker on the roster in Cooper and maybe a couple more developing in Chambers and McNeal.

TIGHT ENDS: There is no question in my mind who the potentially-best tight end on the roster is. That's converted defensive end Richard Gordon, a physical freak who you might even see returning some kickoffs this season. Gordon can get down the field in a hurry and create serious match-up problems for a defense. What we don't know yet is how well Gordon will grasp the offense by opening day. Therefore, look for a lot of Dajleon Farr this season. Farr has very quietly worked hard on his game and is the best blocker among the tight ends. He also is very improved as a pass catcher, though he does occasionally still drop some balls. Chris Zellner is a valued versatile guy who will have a role as an H-back in the Nix offense. Dedrick Epps, who was touted for his route running, has been relatively quiet so far this fall and seems to be No. 4 in the pecking order right now at tight end while working as the No. 2 guy in the H-back role.

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RECEIVERS: This unit has been fortified by the addition of a few freshmen and the return of Darnell Jenkins, who I expect to have a huge season this year. When we sit back in December and evaluate the performance of this group though, I see us focusing on one guy quite a bit. That's Lance Leggett. He has all the physical ability in the world, but has yet to get the most of it. Now he is running out of time. Can Leggett get his head straight and become a reliable go-to guy? Will he catch the football consistently? There is one thing I feel certain about. We will find out. I expect Nix to go to Leggett early and often. The level of Leggett's game will determine if the ball comes to him late. Another real key guy here is Sam Shields, who also has all the physical ability in the world. The knock on Shields as a freshman last year was that he wasn't tough enough. That year of experience should help him make strides in that area this season.

I have been extremely impressed by Jenkins this fall considering the time he missed last season and in spring practice. He learned the offense in the off-season and has been making big plays almost daily on the practice field. Monday, receivers coach Marquis Moseley said that Jenkins is playing like one of the top receivers in the country. Look for him to have a big role in the offense. Khalil Jones is a guy who has been vastly improved this fall. He always has had the ability to get open and now he is doing a better job catching the football. If he keeps it up, he will be on the field quite a bit.

Another guy who reported to fall camp looking very impressive is Ryan Hill. He clearly did his job in Andreu Swasey's conditioning program and has been doing a nice job in fall practices. George Robinson is a second-year guy who also appears to be taking a step forward this year. Jermaine McKenzie was the best of the incoming freshmen in summer team workouts, but he is targeted for redshirt status after injuring his neck in a car accident prior to the start of training camp. So top freshman status now falls to Leonard Hankerson, who should get playing time this year along with another first-year player, Kayne Farquharson, who has been coming on in recent practices. Yet another freshman, Daniel Adderley, will almost certainly redshirt. In summary, I expect the receiver position to be significantly more productive and competitive than it was a year ago.

OFFENSIVE LINE: After several seasons of being one of the weak links on the team, it is finally starting to look like Miami has its act together up front this season. Quite honestly, I was shocked on the first day of practice when I eyeballed how well-conditioned the line looked top to bottom. Even perpetually overweight guys like Cyrim Wimbs, Ian Symonette and Chris Barney looked as if they had shed several pounds this summer and were prepared to compete through fall drills. Being in shape doesn't mean just yet that every scholarship is counting at a position that has suffered from poor recruiting at times in the last five years. But it certainly is a move in the right direction. Right now it looks like the Canes have seven linemen worthy of front line status. Tackles Jason Fox, Reggie Youngblood and Chris Rutledge, guards Derrick Morse, Andrew Bain and Orlando Franklin and center A.J. Trump. There is a chance that Morse can play at center if line coach Jeff Stoutland decides he likes Franklin or Bain in the starting line-up more than Trump. Another guy who is looking increasingly impressive is Joel Figueroa, who has been banged up in recent days but should start seeing game time this fall. There are several other guys in the wings still grappling for playing time like Barney, Matt Pipho, Tyrone Byrd and John Rochford. None are ready for the marquee just yet, but the word from the practice field is that the line is light years better this fall than it was last year at this time.

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DEFENSIVE LINE: I'm going be honest with you right now. The biggest problem area on the team is right here. Teraz McCray and Josh Holmes are undersized defensive tackles. Antonio Dixon looks the part of a dominating player, but for unknown reasons began the fall with the second team. To me, Dixon would be the biggest key to the entire season if it weren't for the question marks at the quarterback position. The bottom line is that there isn't a single tackle on the team that the coaches know they can really count on to make big plays. And defensive tackle has always been a very critical position in the Miami defense. Give Miami a couple big-time tackles and you might be looking at a national title contender this season. Instead, you have a position that will have to be handled by committee with the defense starving for someone like Dwayne Hendricks, Luqman Abdallah, Chaz Washington or Joe Joseph to step up their game along with Dixon. Freshman Chris Perry has size, but he has been sidelined throughout fall camp because he has failed to pass his physical for an undisclosed reason, making an immediate contribution highly unlikely. On a positive note, defensive coordinator Tim Walton will know where opponents are likely to attack first. There are no such personnel problems on the outside, where Mr. Calais Campbell resides. Campbell seems poised to become the nation's top defensive end. I wouldn't be shocked if he was needed to line up at tackle at times, though I am sure that isn't the desired game plan. Obviously, we can look for Campbell to have a monster season. Eric Moncur should really benefit from all the attention that Campbell will be receiving and could have a surprisingly high impact year. Courtney Harris is having a real solid fall camp and is showing signs of developing into a quality player. Vegas Franklin and Steven Wesley will also battle for playing time. Freshman Adewale Ojomo has looked good since arriving in camp, but there is no word yet on whether he will play this year. So the biggest question is whether the quality at end can compensate for the deficiencies at tackle that have been created by bad recruiting at that position the last few years.

LINEBACKER: While I don't see a great player yet at this position, the team is solid here, even though depth has been weakened with the losses of Romeo Davis (expected to be out for the season) and Glenn Cook (likely out until week four). Staying healthy will be an issue. But look for two guys to have breakout years Colin McCarthy and Daryl Sharpton. McCarthy probably should have cracked the starting line-up as a freshman last year and has a lot of Dan Morgan-like qualities when it comes to chasing the football. Sharpton got a great deal of experience last year and should really make a big impact as a sophomore. The veteran of the group is Tavares Gooden, who will be looking to fulfill the potential everyone has seen in him since he arrived on the Miami campus. If Gooden shows up big, this will be a phenomenal trio of linebackers. Spencer Adkins has been working hard this fall and should start to get some playing time. Eric Houston has been showing some improvement as a backup middle linebacker. It presently is unknown whether freshman Allen Bailey will play this year.

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DEFENSIVE BACKS: This might be the strongest position on the team. The Hurricanes are loaded with impressive athletes at both corner and safety. The starting safeties will be Kenny Phillips and Lovon Ponder, a rock solid and experienced duo. Behind them is quality depth in the form of Willie Cooper, who has played a lot, and freshmen Joseph Nicolas and Jared Campbell, who have been impressive in fall camp. The starting corners are likely to be Glenn Sharpe and Randy Phillips, but Carlos Armour and Chavez Grant continue to impress on the practice field and should play a lot along with Bruce Johnson. Freshman Demarcus VanDyke will also likely make a strong push to get on the field this year. Tervaris Johnson has worked at corner this fall as well after playing at safety last year. There seems little reason why the Hurricanes should not be one of the nation's leaders in pass defense.

SPECIAL TEAMS: Coaches haven't made a final determination on the kickers or the returners, but you have to be curious to see the debut of Richard Gordon as a kickoff returner. UM seems headed toward making Gordon one of two guys back on kickoffs so he can be utilized as a blocker when he doesn't have the ball and as a scary 260-pound return man with 4.5 speed when teams do kick to him. Several candidates are vying for a role here, including Ryan Hill, Demarcus Van ****, Doug Wiggins, Shawnbrey McNeal and Lee Chambers. Cooper seems to be the favored choice as a punt returner, but several other players have been getting a look there too including Bruce Johnson and Van ****. It is looking increasingly likely that Daren Daly will win the kicking job and that Matt Bosher will be the punter.

COACHING: The Hurricanes simply aren't good enough yet to just line up and win. The revamped coaching staff, particularly on the offensive side of the ball, is going to have to make a difference in a handful of ballgames this season for Miami to emerge as a BCS team. The brunt of that pressure falls on new offensive coordinator Patrick Nix, but he signed up for that by coming here from Georgia Tech for the lure of competing for championships and expanding his profile. The signs on Nix are really, really good, and his time under Chan Gailey had to help him a lot. But we won't truly know what kind of offensive strategist Shannon plucked from Tech until the Canes get into the heat of battle, which they will quickly at Oklahoma and then at home against Texas A&M. The thing I like the most of what I have seen from Nix is his inclination to creatively utilize the talent available to him and get the most from his roster. He is willing to utilize multiple guys at individual positions and move guys around to get what he wants, something we haven't seen here in several seasons. The other thing I expect to see from Nix is a willingness to take shots down the field to open up the defense. He has speed on the outside to work with in Lance Leggett and Sam Shields. Both guys will get opportunities to make big plays and also will be used as decoys to create gaps for players like Graig Cooper and Darnell Jenkins. Nix can't help but be an upgrade over the disaster that was Rich Olson's tenure last year. I really think this offense can get back in the 30-point a game range this season.

I have also been impressed by what I have seen of offensive line coach Jeff Stoutland. Stoutland brings the kind of intensity you would expect of a line coach, but he also has demonstrated in early drills that he is an excellent teacher. Look for a big step-up in performance from a more experienced offensive line that reported in the best physical shape I have seen from a Miami offensive line in several seasons. Mario Cristobal's vision of the quality of this line together seems to be coming to fruition.

With Shannon as the head coach, the transition of Tim Walton into the defensive coordinator role comes with some pressure of its own. Walton has been given the green light to inject some of his own thoughts and wrinkles, but you know Shannon will always be on the opposite end of the headset monitoring things very closely on that side of the ball. Shannon will not accept a drop off in Miami's performance on defense.

When you have a new coaching staff, you can expect some growing pains. They have to learn to work together on game day and their ability to make adjustments on the field will have an impact.

Shannon is also in his first go-around of managing games as the head coach. It will be interesting to see how he develops.

SUMMARY: This is clearly a Canes team taking a step in the right direction, but one that might be a year or two away from a return to the elite level of college football. There is a lot of young talent to work with and there is no question that the attitude of the team and the physical conditioning have been upgraded. That figures to carry over into game day.

Nobody around the country is respecting these Hurricanes. I haven't seen anybody even pick them to win the ACC, and they aren't in the Top 25 in the first coaches' poll.

It seems totally bizarre to me, but sometimes I wonder if maybe I am too close to it. For example, I never could have imagined last year's team finishing anywhere near 7-6.

I do feel strongly about one thing. There isn't a game on the schedule that Miami won't have a good chance to win at kickoff. So in the end, the way 2007 plays out will be dependent on how all the variables come together the chemistry of the coaching staff, the quality of play at the quarterback position, Graig Cooper's health, Lance Leggett's hands and head, Richard Gordon's ability to learn the playbook, the offensive line's toughness, the emergence of a couple playmakers at defensive tackle.

That's a long list that I could probably stretch even more if I desired. Too long of a list for a national championship team, in my opinion.

But we are guaranteed a season with a great deal of intrigue and excitement. The future looks quite bright with the way that recruiting is going. I can't wait for September 1 to get here so we can see how it plays out.

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* The offensive and defensive plays of the day:

- WR Sam Shields went up and grabbed a 30-yard touchdown over Randy Phillips in 11-on-11 work.

"It was a great play it was great defense," Phillips said. "We went up, I tipped it, he fell back and he caught it. I tried to roll him out of bounds it was a great play. That's what we need around here.

"Sam, some days I get the best of him and some days he gets the best of me. He's making me a better player, I'm making him a better receiver."

- Phillips made his own big play earlier with a 40-yard interception return for a touchdown.

"The D line got great pressure like they always do and will during the season," Phillips said. "I just happened to be there. They made him scramble, I dropped the route and from there they blocked real well and led me into the end zone."

CB Carlos Armour added, "The defensive line got great pressure and forced a bad pass, and he was there to capitalize on it."

Armour said the defense had a great effort practice today.

* DB Damien Berry is back participating fully in practices coming off a torn ACL.

He isn't working at safety, though he's playing second and third team nickel and hopes to get on the field as a true freshman.

"I've been out there, getting reps in," Berry said. "I'm working hard, trying to get bigger, stronger, faster. I'm 100 percent right now."

* RB Shawnbrey McNeal was held out most of today but says he's feeling fine.

Coach Randy Shannon said he just wanted to rest McNeal because he was coming off the long layoff while he was waiting for his physical to go through.

McNeal said it was frustrating missing time.

"It has an effect on you," McNeal said.

McNeal was cleared to practice on Tuesday after seeing a neurologist, and RB coach Tommie Robinson said today that McNeal is possibly the fastest player on the team.

McNeal was the Texas state champion in the 100-meter dash as a junior and senior.

"I'm looking to bring a good key to the team, whatever I can do to help us get to New Orleans is what I'm going to do offense, special teams, it doesn't matter," he said.

RB coach Tommie Robinson said of McNeal, who is working with the second and third teams, "He can run ... he can fly. He has incredible speed and quickness. He's showed some signs of what we signed him for. He can run."

McNeal says he's been timed at 4.28 seconds in the 40-yard dash in high school (his personal best 100 time is 10.45 seconds), but he hasn't tested yet at UM.

"Everyone knows I'm fast, of course," McNeal said.

McNeal is also competing as a kickoff and punt returner.

"My dad was always telling me I have God's gift," McNeal said. "I'm using God's gift to my advantage."

* Robinson says he expects his backs to get a lot of action running the ball this season, pointing to how much Patrick Nix's backs carried the ball when the offensive coordinator was at Georgia Tech.

"Tashard Choice led the conference in rushing," Robinson said. "A few years ago P.J. Daniels led the conference in rushing at Georgia Tech. We're going to run the football."

* CB Demarcus VanDyke says he's been working as a first-team cornerback all week.

"I'm trying to get the feel of the ones," VanDyke said. "Randy Phillips, Kenny Phillips really help me out. I'm competing to start; hopefully I get a chance to start this year."

* The first team OL in coming out drills (from left to right): Jason Fox, Andrew Bain, John Rochford, Derrick Morse, Chris Rutledge. The first team receivers were Lance Leggett and Sam Shields with Darnell Jenkins in the slot.

The second team OL (from left to right): Tyrone Byrd, Orlando Franklin, AJ Trump, Matt Pipho (he's playing center and guard), Ian Symonette. The second team receivers were Khalil Jones and Kayne Farquharson.
The first team defense early in practice: DL Calais Campbell, Eric Moncur, Antonio Dixon, Luqman Abdallah. LB Tavares Gooden, Eric Houston, Spencer Adkins. DB Kenny Phillips, Willie Cooper, Carlos Armour, Demarcus VanDyke.

The second team defense included Randy Phillips, LBs Colin McCarthy and Kylan Robinson, tackle Chaz Washington and ends Adewale Ojomo and Vegas Franklin.

* Working on the side with the injured players today were Robert Marve, Jermaine McKenzie, Jerrell Mabry, Glenn Sharpe, Lee Chambers, Joel Figueroa, Demetri Stewart, Anthony Reddick, Steven Wesley, Chris Perry and Charlie Jones.

* Randy Shannon missed the start of practice because he was attending a Coral Gables Chamber of Commerce breakfast.

* WR Lance Leggett says he's up to 195 pounds.

"I just did what (strength coach Andreu) Swasey told me to do," Leggett said.

* The team holds its final two-a-day of the fall tomorrow.

* QUOTE OF THE DAY

"You won't hear nothing about Jacksonville. It's all about New Orleans." RB coach Tommie Robinson
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