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People bought these kits to satisfy their false sense of self-righteousness. The humble brags i've seen on my timeline were outright disgustingOriginally Posted by knightngale
what are these "kits" people bought?
on one hand it is nice to know that a lot of people have good intentions but may be taken advantage of
one the other hand it is disappointing to see these same people jumping blindly into something
always be wary of people trying to go after your money
Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE
Originally Posted by crcballer55
How does this article actually prove the campaign is a fraud anyways? Most of the links in the article are to sister sites. Doesn't that seem a little suspect? Like they're just trying to increase their SEO and bring more page views to their sites to make money? Adolf Eichmann was hiding in South America until 1962. Does that mean he shouldn't have been prosecuted and executed?
I can't really speak on the legitimacy of the info provided in the article, nor do I care to. But I would like to speak about common sense. We're in the year 2012--why is finding Kony and bringing him to justice such a big deal NOW? After all these years, NOW we're going to launch a multi-million dollar campaign to hunt this dude down?
I don't think anyone is debating that Kony's actions aren't/weren't deplorable. Of course he should be brought to justice for his crimes. But ask yourself WHY NOW. And how did this "grassroots" campaign blow up literally overnight when there are a gang of people pushing the public to take on their cause? Doesn't that seem suspect to you?
I personally haven't called anyone a sheep regarding Kony 2012. Heck, I still think the cause is noble and I can understand why people would be sympathetic to the cause. What the dude did was awful.Originally Posted by Regis
Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE
Originally Posted by crcballer55
How does this article actually prove the campaign is a fraud anyways? Most of the links in the article are to sister sites. Doesn't that seem a little suspect? Like they're just trying to increase their SEO and bring more page views to their sites to make money? Adolf Eichmann was hiding in South America until 1962. Does that mean he shouldn't have been prosecuted and executed?
I can't really speak on the legitimacy of the info provided in the article, nor do I care to. But I would like to speak about common sense. We're in the year 2012--why is finding Kony and bringing him to justice such a big deal NOW? After all these years, NOW we're going to launch a multi-million dollar campaign to hunt this dude down?
I don't think anyone is debating that Kony's actions aren't/weren't deplorable. Of course he should be brought to justice for his crimes. But ask yourself WHY NOW. And how did this "grassroots" campaign blow up literally overnight when there are a gang of people pushing the public to take on their cause? Doesn't that seem suspect to you?
It always gets me when people use the whole "Why now" thing?
-The US has enslaved African Americans for deccades why are we just NOW going to pass the 13th Amendment?
-Hitler killed millions of Jews why are we just NOW concerned with stopping him?
-Gadafi was in power for decades why did his people just NOW start this massive movement to take him out of power?
I could go on for days bro. Everything has to happen at some point. If you saw the video youll see that organization was around for years before we all saw that 30 minute video. Most of us are too concerned with our own first world problems to think about the world outside. Thats not really anyones fault but ours.
Im not in any way trying to legitimize that video cause obviously theres a lot of sketchy *%#$ going on but this whole "WHY NOW" line that these great thinkers keep using to call other people sheep is really not wassup.
this... where is an unbiased source...Dudes will believe anything.Originally Posted by Rolaholic
Alex Jones huh
We're in the year 2012--why is finding Kony and bringing him to justice such a big deal NOW? After all these years, NOW we're going to launch a multi-million dollar campaign to hunt this dude down?
I don't think anyone is debating that Kony's actions aren't/weren't deplorable. Of course he should be brought to justice for his crimes. But ask yourself WHY NOW. And how did this "grassroots" campaign blow up literally overnight when there are a gang of people pushing the public to take on their cause? Doesn't that seem suspect to you?
100% Truth, can't believe dudes fell for the banana in the tailpipe.
Originally Posted by Regis
Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE
Originally Posted by crcballer55
How does this article actually prove the campaign is a fraud anyways? Most of the links in the article are to sister sites. Doesn't that seem a little suspect? Like they're just trying to increase their SEO and bring more page views to their sites to make money? Adolf Eichmann was hiding in South America until 1962. Does that mean he shouldn't have been prosecuted and executed?
I can't really speak on the legitimacy of the info provided in the article, nor do I care to. But I would like to speak about common sense. We're in the year 2012--why is finding Kony and bringing him to justice such a big deal NOW? After all these years, NOW we're going to launch a multi-million dollar campaign to hunt this dude down?
I don't think anyone is debating that Kony's actions aren't/weren't deplorable. Of course he should be brought to justice for his crimes. But ask yourself WHY NOW. And how did this "grassroots" campaign blow up literally overnight when there are a gang of people pushing the public to take on their cause? Doesn't that seem suspect to you?
It always gets me when people use the whole "Why now" thing?
-The US has enslaved African Americans for deccades why are we just NOW going to pass the 13th Amendment?
-Hitler killed millions of Jews why are we just NOW concerned with stopping him?
-Gadafi was in power for decades why did his people just NOW start this massive movement to take him out of power?
I could go on for days bro. Everything has to happen at some point. If you saw the video youll see that organization was around for years before we all saw that 30 minute video. Most of us are too concerned with our own first world problems to think about the world outside. Thats not really anyones fault but ours.
Im not in any way trying to legitimize that video cause obviously theres a lot of sketchy *%#$ going on but this whole "WHY NOW" line that these great thinkers keep using to call other people sheep is really not wassup.
Originally Posted by Faint Dj3
Kony said its all lies. He would never kill his brother/sisters. so ennhhh
Originally Posted by cartune
Damned if they did nothing "Oh America doesnt care about Africa"
Damned if they do "It was a setup to invade Africa for the oilz"
The conspiracy theorists' convenient advantage
An indy filmaker with an agenda vs. freakin Alex Jonespick ya poison
Sheep on both sides
they're saying he moved onOriginally Posted by superblyTRIFE
Originally Posted by cartune
Damned if they did nothing "Oh America doesnt care about Africa"
Damned if they do "It was a setup to invade Africa for the oilz"
The conspiracy theorists' convenient advantage
An indy filmaker with an agenda vs. freakin Alex Jonespick ya poison
Sheep on both sides
What about what native Ugandans are saying though? If anyone would have knowledge of Kony, it'd be his victims and the people of that country. Where's all the love from them for this movement? From all accounts I've seen, the atrocities happened years ago and they're still picking up the pieces, as is expected. But that isn't how the Kony 2012 movement portrays things, IMO. That alone is a big, red flag.
The audience was at first puzzled to see the narrative lead by an American man – Jason Russell – and his young son.
Towards the end of the film, the mood turned more to anger at what many people saw as a foreign, inaccurate account that belittled and commercialised their suffering, as the film promotes Kony bracelets and other fundraising merchandise, with the aim of making Kony infamous.
One woman I spoke to made the comparison of selling Osama Bin Laden paraphernalia post 9/11 – likely to be highly offensive to many Americans, however well intentioned the campaign behind it.
The event ended with the angrier members of the audience throwing rocks and shouting abusive criticism, as the rest fled for safety, leaving an abandoned projector, with organisers and the press running for cover until the dust settled.
It seems that the while the film has a viral power never seen before in the online community, it did not go down nearly so well with the very people it claims it is meant to help.