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he does still shoot at 58% on FGs (not as high as Drew's 63%
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he does still shoot at 58% on FGs (not as high as Drew's 63%
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won't be the first time: AC Green, Kurt Rambis, Cedric Ceballos.
Anyway as a positive to the Suns.. Shaq can open up more 3pt oppurtunities for Bell, Nash, Barbosa, etc..
Gail Goodrich.
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Well the games I've seen him play he hasn't been getting double teamed nearly as much as even last year. I mean it just doesn't seem to fitPHX's dynamic or philosophy, maybe Hitler Jr. (D'Antoni) has finally realized that his run-n-gun style doesn't work in the playoffs and is gonnachange. Otherwise this trade makes absolutely NO sense, but it's good for the Lakers, cause we can win the division now with Pau. Mitch done put everyonein the West on panic mode
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Shaq doesn't warrant a double?
While he's not "the diesel" anymore, it's still difficult for any player in this league to guard someone his size...
Most players in the west? Right, like players such as Andris Beidrens or Francisco Elsin can guard Shaq
Stop looking at the numbers and realize that neither Shaq nor Wade have had a good season in Miami because whenever you play the Heat all you have to do iscrowd the lanes..they don't have any shooters so all the defense does is collapse. I guarantee you this would not be the case if Shaq was in Phoenix.
If anything, Amare would be able to catch the high post, and take slower PF's to the basket. If the opposing center helps, dump off to Shaq for a dunk.
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Marion said he has no problem with this trade, so it looks like its about to go down
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the laker fan in me does not want to see this trade go down, but the basketball fan in me does.
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Gail Goodrich.
lol.. i forgot about him.. and i forgot Zo's that old to watch Gail play
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I seen pieces of this on the bottom ticker, but I figured it was Jermaine O'Neal since I didn't see the complete little segment piece all the waythrough.
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my boyfriend told me this trade is official: true?
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Originally Posted by grittyman20
Shaq doesn't warrant a double?
While he's not "the diesel" anymore, it's still difficult for any player in this league to guard someone his size...
Most players in the west? Right, like players such as Andris Beidrens or Francisco Elsin can guard Shaq
Stop looking at the numbers and realize that neither Shaq nor Wade have had a good season in Miami because whenever you play the Heat all you have to do is crowd the lanes..they don't have any shooters so all the defense does is collapse. I guarantee you this would not be the case if Shaq was in Phoenix.
If anything, Amare would be able to catch the high post, and take slower PF's to the basket. If the opposing center helps, dump off to Shaq for a dunk.
Have you actually WATCHED the Heat play this season? I have. I'm not looking at the numbers, Shaq is a shell of his former self, he has nowhere nearthe lift and explosion that he had just last year, I bet teams wouldn't gear their D to stop Shaq, they'd guard the 3 pt line, contain Nash, and makeShaq prove that he can produce, cause he's about 2 steps slower than in the Heat's championship season.
Oh and what about on the defensive end? Themismatches that most of the Western teams (Denver, GS, LA, Utah, and maybe NO) on the other end will I believe have a negative effect as well, the versatilityof the PF position has always been a problem for Amare, so you think putting him in mismatches against Boozer, West, whoever the Warriors have at PF, or Gasolwhen Bynum comes back will help PHX, I just think it will get him in foul trouble quicker than he already gets in.
Who will PHX have that is willing to do all the dirty work and hustle plays that the Matrix brings? I think you guys are underestimating his value. This wouldbe a great trade for Miami though.
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for Heat yes because one they will have like a core of Derrick Rose(draft) Wade and Matrix
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Have you actually WATCHED the Heat play this season? I have. I'm not looking at the numbers, Shaq is a shell of his former self, he has nowhere near the lift and explosion that he had just last year, I bet teams wouldn't gear their D to stop Shaq, they'd guard the 3 pt line, contain Nash, and make Shaq prove that he can produce, cause he's about 2 steps slower than in the Heat's championship season.
No one is saying that he is the MVP Shaq, or even the championship Heat Shaq...so it's pretty obvious that he's lost a step.
However, I don't know if it was you who said it but to say that most centers in the NBA can still guard him straight up is just
This is the NBA, it's hard to guard Boris Diaw straight up, almost every can score...
Even if Shaq was traded to the Heat, it would be idiotic of a coach to gear a defense around stopping him...
There's also no way in hell you're going to "contain Nash" and Amare wouldn't fall in love with the jumper.
I bet you that there's probably 0 head coaches in the NBA who have a strategy going into a game to "guard the 3pt line"...in fact, they'dprobably let a team take those shots all game long.
If you lose to a team that shoots 3's all day then just tip your hat and keep it moving....the law of probability says that you have a better chance whenGIVING UP such a low percentage shot
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Shaq? nobody wants that fat piece of @%%#
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I can't believe Phoenix is even considering this!! Are they stupid!!?? They would have to revamp their whole game plan cause they would be no where near asfast with Shaq in their line up. By the time shaq makes it to half court the suns would have scored TWICE! I'm NOT A Sun's or Heat fan at all but thiswould be stupid and would make no sense at all especially for the Sun's.
Anyone else think the Sun's are a bit shaken up by the Gasol move to L.A.?
Anyone else think the Sun's are a bit shaken up by the Gasol move to L.A.?
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Do it KERR!
lmao @ the thought of this actually happening.
Shaq in a Suns jersey
the Suns could do MUCH better for Marion.
lmao @ the thought of this actually happening.
Shaq in a Suns jersey
the Suns could do MUCH better for Marion.
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No one is saying that he is the MVP Shaq, or even the championship Heat Shaq...so it's pretty obvious that he's lost a step.
However, I don't know if it was you who said it but to say that most centers in the NBA can still guard him straight up is just
This is the NBA, it's hard to guard Boris Diaw straight up, almost every can score...
Even if Shaq was traded to the Heat, it would be idiotic of a coach to gear a defense around stopping him...
There's also no way in hell you're going to "contain Nash" and Amare wouldn't fall in love with the jumper.
I bet you that there's probably 0 head coaches in the NBA who have a strategy going into a game to "guard the 3pt line"...in fact, they'd probably let a team take those shots all game long.
If you lose to a team that shoots 3's all day then just tip your hat and keep it moving....the law of probability says that you have a better chance when GIVING UP such a low percentage shot
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Lemme tell you, this thing REALLY seems to be having some legs...the bees are buzzing down here in Miami right now. A beat writer was being interviewed on aradio station down here, and you could hear his call waiting running off the hook in the background.
We could very well see this deal happen...and soon!
We could very well see this deal happen...and soon!
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i can't be the only one hoping smush goes to the suns?
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ESPN Radio is calling it official now right here at about 11pm
Ric Beucher has already said Shaq will be on a flight to PHX in the morning for a physical and some other people are claiming Shaq has already called Amare andtalked to him
Ric Beucher has already said Shaq will be on a flight to PHX in the morning for a physical and some other people are claiming Shaq has already called Amare andtalked to him
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^ i hope they ship smuch too!!!
But this trade is terrible for phoenix...
#1 They did this to combat the Lakers Gasol trade...But yet they forget, we dont have Bynum back yet....Bynum and Gasol > Stat and Old Shaq
#2, Shaq has 2 or 3 years left, Steve Nash does too....they better win in the next 2 or 3 years....cuz teh Lakers team will be together 5+ years
#3, Grant Hill didnt fit with this system....so what makes them think Shaq will?
and if Riley was gonna trade Shaq, send him back to LA for Odom!!!!
But this trade is terrible for phoenix...
#1 They did this to combat the Lakers Gasol trade...But yet they forget, we dont have Bynum back yet....Bynum and Gasol > Stat and Old Shaq
#2, Shaq has 2 or 3 years left, Steve Nash does too....they better win in the next 2 or 3 years....cuz teh Lakers team will be together 5+ years
#3, Grant Hill didnt fit with this system....so what makes them think Shaq will?
and if Riley was gonna trade Shaq, send him back to LA for Odom!!!!
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i hope this goes through. ShAQ has not declined he has plummeted. watch tape of his first year in Miami. i remember he was a beast all blocks and alley oopdunks.
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i can't be the only one hoping smush goes to the suns?
Solid backup for Nash.
