Shooting Reported at Las Vegas Casino Hotel

[DCAllAfrican]

Is it possible to

A. Feel there needs to be more strict requirements to obtain deadly weapons

WHILE

B. Believe the shootings will still happens?

That is how I feel but it seems like I am supposed to pick ONE side in this black/white convo

 

[Mark Antony]

More than 30,000 people are killed in car accidents a year

Nothing crazy about that.

I see this being brought up, but laws are actively modified on this as well as car manufacturers making effort to make cars much safer with new tech etc. Of course it's not a complete fix, but it's modifiable as time goes on. Bringing this up reminds me of folks saying "what about black on black crime" as a deflection to police brutality when there are people actively, passionately putting their time, money, life on the line to make those communities better.

 

[dwalk31]

"mental health issues" "super disturbed" "sheltered and demented" "severely unhealthy"

Just say white

 

[iamdef]

Is it possible to

A. Feel there needs to be more strict requirements to obtain deadly weapons

WHILE

B. Believe the shootings will still happens?

That is how I feel but it seems like I am supposed to pick ONE side in this black/white convo

I'm in that boat with you. Not expecting these things to grind to a halt just like I expect crime and murders to continue.

 

[dwalk31]

Is it possible to

A. Feel there needs to be more strict requirements to obtain deadly weapons

WHILE

B. Believe the shootings will still happens?

That is how I feel but it seems like I am supposed to pick ONE side in this black/white convo

Of course you can feel however you want. But if you are conceding that A wont prevent B then you agree with the people that think that it isn't a good solution.

 

[MVP]

"mental health issues" "super disturbed" "sheltered and demented" "severely unhealthy"

Just say white

Tell your friends at Faux News that

 

[Mark Antony]

This is great, uses the auto fatality rates as a comparison here too.

 

[getback]

"mental health issues" "super disturbed" "sheltered and demented" "severely unhealthy"

Just say white

Why? Cho had the same issues and he wasn't white. You don't have to be white to be disturbed

Dude was literally diagnosed by pyschs.

Maybe an individual killing 20+ children isn't demented enough for you?

Nice try on the deflect though.

 

[Based Jesus]

Is it possible to

A. Feel there needs to be more strict requirements to obtain deadly weapons

WHILE

B. Believe the shootings will still happens?

That is how I feel but it seems like I am supposed to pick ONE side in this black/white convo

That's how I feel. But apparently because no law works 100% there's no point to stricter requirements.

 

[hipstermike]

I see this being brought up, but laws are actively modified on this as well as car manufacturers making effort to make cars much safer with new tech etc. Of course it's not a complete fix, but it's modifiable as time goes on. Bringing this up reminds me of folks saying "what about black on black crime" as a deflection to police brutality when there are people actively, passionately putting their time, money, life on the line to make those communities better.

We only give people licenses on how to operate an automobile, that doesn't exactly qualify them to drive everywhere.

I wish it was harder to get a driving license personally. People should be required to take a defensive driving course.

 

[dwalk31]

That's how I feel. But apparently because no law works 100% there's no point to stricter requirements.

What could possibly be a stricter punishment than the death penalty that is already in place for murder?

 

[frshstunna]

If you going the gun control route, gotta pair it with zero tolerance and have patience to wait on the effects...This country will not do either tho

Its gonna be guns on the streets for a long time so if you REALLY want one you can probly find a way, but making it harder to obtain a weapon weeds out a good number of people due to laziness and not wanting to deal with all the extra red tape

 

[Mark Antony]

Is it possible to

A. Feel there needs to be more strict requirements to obtain deadly weapons

WHILE

B. Believe the shootings will still happens?

That is how I feel but it seems like I am supposed to pick ONE side in this black/white convo

Watch the above video. No one is saying that shootings will end definitively other than the people who deflect the conversation to "don't take away our guns".

 

[Magic33]

So the 33k annual gun deaths don't deserve any consideration or more stringent requirements to use and operate? It's not just about mass shootings for the 1000th time.

It's more like 13,000. A lot of that 33 are suicide.

But this country has been built on guns for 500 years and has a more than a gun for every person here.

You would pretty much have to do like New York and make guns pretty much illegal and that's not happening. You would have to change the whole culture, that's what a lot of Northern states have done.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Of course you can feel however you want. But if you are conceding that A wont prevent B then you agree with the people that think that it isn't a good solution.

I don't think there is an option that will stop it from happening.

I don't think there is an option that will slow it down from happening.

If someone WANTS to do it, I feel like they will.

But some people need to feel safe from a legal standpoint. They need to "know" (wr never truly know) that is takes SOME effort to get your hands on firearms.

 

[Mark Antony]

What could possibly be a stricter punishment than the death penalty that is already in place for murder?

Let's ask other countries with the death penalty as well but much lower gun violence rates.

 

[MVP]

Man I miss this guy

 

[frshstunna]

What could possibly be a stricter punishment than the death penalty that is already in place for murder?

You talking about murder, sounds like he talking bout making it harder to even get a gun BEFORE you even get to the point of killing somebody with it

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Watch the above video. No one is saying that shootings will end definitively other than the people who deflect the conversation to "don't take away our guns".

Yea, that isn't what I meant.

I don't see them slowing down either. No matter what legislation is put in place

 

[Mark Antony]

Yea, that isn't what I meant.

I don't see them slowing down either. No matter what legislation is put in place

That's just not reality man. You put the time and effort into anything and changes will happen.

 

[Mr.Guy]

People on Reddit are saying the shooter is Antifa lol.

 

[Magic33]

It is just a constant flow of deflections and whataboutisms with dude.

I would respect dudes a whole lot more if they just came out and said "I really like guns, so for selfish reasons I don't support anything that will make it hard for me to acquire more of them......I really don't care if I sound irrational, or about making society safer"

Who cares about your respect. Do you think anyone respects you?

 

[RustyShackleford]

Another nice lil goal post move that I always enjoy,and always predictable.

When the no new guns laws crowd wanted to deflect the y brought up all other kinds of death and demanded that "death is death". So if guns are banned (which few were suggesting) then other things like cars should be too.

But when you point out that less guns might decrease gun related deaths, they try to only focus on mass shooters and dismiss stuff like suicides. Who cares if other forms of homicide and suicides can be reduced, that won't stop mass shootings from happening completely.

I guess death is not death when it is by a gun.

Hmmm

 

[Magic33]

I see this being brought up, but laws are actively modified on this as well as car manufacturers making effort to make cars much safer with new tech etc. Of course it's not a complete fix, but it's modifiable as time goes on. Bringing this up reminds me of folks saying "what about black on black crime" as a deflection to police brutality when there are people actively, passionately putting their time, money, life on the line to make those communities better.

I'm not the one who even brought that up.

It was brought up by someone else saying that cars are regulated.

And I was saying maybe because cars kill tens of thousands of people, so nothing crazy about it.

 

[jking0821]

If you going the gun control route, gotta pair it with zero tolerance and have patience to wait on the effects...This country will not do either tho

Its gonna be guns on the streets for a long time so if you REALLY want one you can probly find a way, but making it harder to obtain a weapon weeds out a good number of people due to laziness and not wanting to deal with all the extra red tape

these are my sentiments. I am all for people having the right to own guns. I do believe they should go through every possible background check and waiting period that they need too. I also don't see a reason for all the extended magazines, silencers, automatic fire rate weapons (you can't sell me on sport...or hunting being the reasons). I know the other side says well when the cops come knocking and they want to take you away for no reason you need guys to protect yourself. And that is some what true in theory on how the law was originally written but it isn't practical at all.

At the end of the day you are trying to take away the ability for some one to efficiently mow down innocent civilians. And i think this issue can be better handled then it is now.

And to the point that it is hard to get a gun. Can't you just walk into a gun show and buy one? they don't do background checks there. I think vice did a special on it and they sent an 18 year old kid in and he bought like an AR, and two high caliber hunting rifles.