Ska its been going on long enough...time to lock....

[N41D]

And strictly offensively, Eddy Curry CAN work under him.

Allen, there ain't no way... He can't shoot, he can't run, he ain't gonna kill anyone in the pick and roll...

I don't see it.

I think it's a good hire for NY, but it's going to take time. They don't have the personnel for his offense. But that's a good thing. Ifthere's one thing the Knicks need, it's new players, and D'Antoni's offense will require a ton of them.

 

[jmause3]

Man i really wanted D'Antoni to go to Chicago

 

[japanair21]

Does this solidify the fact that D'Antoni wants money only?

 

[franchise3]

Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Does this solidify the fact that D'Antoni wants money only?

Maybe he has more faith in Donnie Walsh, who's pretty solid, to help him build a team around his style than he has faith in Paxon.

 

[acidicality]

A source close to Baron Davis said it's now a 50-50 chance that the Warriors' captain, coming off a season in which he averaged 21.8 points, 7.6 assists and 4.7 rebounds, will not remain (with the Warriors) beyond next season after various contract offers that were so low as to be practically hurtful. Davis is slated to make $17.8 million next season, the final installment of a six-year, $84-million contract extension he signed as a member of the New Orleans Hornets. That deal gave him the maximum allowable salary under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Davis is willing to give the Warriors a discount and drop down from "max player" status to help Golden State add more talent, but there is a clear difference of opinion in his market value. Contra Costa Times
Interesting...but Baron would be foolish to opt out given he isn't seeing that kind of money anywhere else (i think the article is sayinghe'd leave GS after NEXT season, not opting out)...I WOULD deal him if we got a can't miss deal though. Nothing against him at all since he has beenour best player for quite a while, but if there's a trade that makes total sense it's worthwhile for us to deal him.

 

[tupac003]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by tupac003

A source close to Baron Davis said it's now a 50-50 chance that the Warriors' captain, coming off a season in which he averaged 21.8 points, 7.6 assists and 4.7 rebounds, will not remain (with the Warriors) beyond next season after various contract offers that were so low as to be practically hurtful. Davis is slated to make $17.8 million next season, the final installment of a six-year, $84-million contract extension he signed as a member of the New Orleans Hornets. That deal gave him the maximum allowable salary under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Davis is willing to give the Warriors a discount and drop down from "max player" status to help Golden State add more talent, but there is a clear difference of opinion in his market value. Contra Costa Times

Despite his impressive defensive statistics, Camby's value as trade bait has been hotly debated by Denver management for the past 12 months. While the Nuggets tried to pry one of the young stars from the Atlanta Hawks in return for Camby last spring, a 34-year-old center now would likely have more appeal to a contender looking for the final piece to its championship puzzle. Denver Post

As the Nuggets bet Iverson will not choose to opt out of a contract scheduled to pay him a salary in excess of $20 million next season, the team remains uncertain of what to do with the 32-year-old guard down the road, especially when Denver considers A.I. could be attractive to a potential trade partner looking for a marquee name to sell tickets in the short term and provide roster flexibility in the long term. Denver Post

While the Nuggets have given no indication they will actively shop Carmelo Anthony, the constant drama in the life of their 23-year-old forward has become the source of enough frustration within team headquarters that Denver would be willing to listen if somebody made a trade offer too good to refuse for Melo. The problem? In a league where stars such as Kobe Bryant and LeBron James dominate, it's difficult to come out ahead when trading a singular immense talent for any combination of players and draft picks. Denver Post

This is what I would do if Baron wants out
Three team trade

To Denver: Baron Davis, Larry Hughes, Andres Nocioni

To Chicago: Allen Iverson

To Golden State: Marcus Camby, Chucky Atkins, Lineas Kleiza, TJ Ford, Toronto 2nd round pick, Denver 1st round pick

To Toronto: Stephen Jackson, Draft Rights to Koryo Perovic and Denver 2nd round pick.

Toronto would never make this deal. Plus Golden state makes out IMO. That denver first round pick need to go to CHI.

 

[mjdalegend]

After weeks of informal conversations, Davis' agent, Todd Ramasar, met with Warriors officials Thursday to discuss a potential contract extension for his client. But the talks failed to provide any satisfaction for Davis, a two-time All-Star who just turned 29.

In fact, the sides were so far apart in what they perceive as Davis' worth that Ramasar suggested Davis might use his opt-out clause to void the final year on the current deal and become an unrestricted free agent as of July 1.

Even if Baron wants to opt out, there aren't many teams that can pay him. Sixers and Grizzlies clearly have the cap tosign him. If both sides can't agree to the extension this summer, I still see him finishing the last yr of his contract with the Warriors.

Just hours earlier, Warriors executive vice president Chris Mullin had said that he didn't plan to engage in contract talks until Davis' opt-out deadline of June 30 had passed, putting the team in a more advantageous position.

 

[barondavis5]

Baron

 

[goodfellaz86]

Originally Posted by tupac003

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by tupac003

A source close to Baron Davis said it's now a 50-50 chance that the Warriors' captain, coming off a season in which he averaged 21.8 points, 7.6 assists and 4.7 rebounds, will not remain (with the Warriors) beyond next season after various contract offers that were so low as to be practically hurtful. Davis is slated to make $17.8 million next season, the final installment of a six-year, $84-million contract extension he signed as a member of the New Orleans Hornets. That deal gave him the maximum allowable salary under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Davis is willing to give the Warriors a discount and drop down from "max player" status to help Golden State add more talent, but there is a clear difference of opinion in his market value. Contra Costa Times

Despite his impressive defensive statistics, Camby's value as trade bait has been hotly debated by Denver management for the past 12 months. While the Nuggets tried to pry one of the young stars from the Atlanta Hawks in return for Camby last spring, a 34-year-old center now would likely have more appeal to a contender looking for the final piece to its championship puzzle. Denver Post

As the Nuggets bet Iverson will not choose to opt out of a contract scheduled to pay him a salary in excess of $20 million next season, the team remains uncertain of what to do with the 32-year-old guard down the road, especially when Denver considers A.I. could be attractive to a potential trade partner looking for a marquee name to sell tickets in the short term and provide roster flexibility in the long term. Denver Post

While the Nuggets have given no indication they will actively shop Carmelo Anthony, the constant drama in the life of their 23-year-old forward has become the source of enough frustration within team headquarters that Denver would be willing to listen if somebody made a trade offer too good to refuse for Melo. The problem? In a league where stars such as Kobe Bryant and LeBron James dominate, it's difficult to come out ahead when trading a singular immense talent for any combination of players and draft picks. Denver Post

This is what I would do if Baron wants out
Three team trade

To Denver: Baron Davis, Larry Hughes, Andres Nocioni

To Chicago: Allen Iverson

To Golden State: Marcus Camby, Chucky Atkins, Lineas Kleiza, TJ Ford, Toronto 2nd round pick, Denver 1st round pick

To Toronto: Stephen Jackson, Draft Rights to Koryo Perovic and Denver 2nd round pick.

Toronto would never make this deal. Plus Golden state makes out IMO. That denver first round pick need to go to CHI.

This trade sucks --- Denver gives up the most to get the least back

 

[tmay407]

I dunno if it would be possible, but Camby in Dallas would be

 

[willinc]

RIP D'Antoni's coaching career


i understand he went for the money but still

 

[yimoney23]

damn now were starless now. No J-rich and BD on the team. Next year are going to be ugly. Action Jackson probably running the team.

no more winning team.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Originally Posted by Yimoney23

damn now were starless now. No J-rich and BD on the team. Next year are going to be ugly. Action Jackson probably running the team.

no more winning team.

This guy's jumping the gun

. Relax, take a deep breath... nothing has happened yet.

And besides, Baron has adamantly said he would love to stay in the bay area. He also would welcome the fact to take a pay cut if that meant the Warriors couldattract another piece to the puzzle. It's not like he's forcing his way out. Both sides want the same thing, it's just a matter of $$$. I guessBaron's idea of a paycut isn't the same as Mullin's idea of a paycut. Mullin, since the acquisition of Don Nelson, has improved his negotiationtactics. This is all just talk anyway. Mullin didn't want to talk about Baron's deal until after June 30. The real negotiations are going to happen after June 30.

 

[cheezybaby]

Originally Posted by Yimoney23

damn now were starless now. No J-rich and BD on the team. Next year are going to be ugly. Action Jackson probably running the team.

no more winning team.

�
exactly, peole need to realize what�they are doing...Warriors finally field a decent team...but now they want to go and get younger and do this for thefuture??
All great teams in the NBA have a player that has been on the team for their whole career from, stupid decision by the management by trading JR...�Spurs(timmy), Lakers (Kobe), Hornets (Chris Paul, granted only been here for 3 years but NO isnt letting him go),�next is going to be the Bobcats with�RaymondFelton
who do the Warriors have to do this now? CJ Watson and Azubuike? ha i laugh at that


http://www.youtube.com/v/1Zl8yDefPFs&hl=en

greatest preseason play eer

 

[acidicality]

Baron's said he wants to stay in Cali preferably I THINK...but bottom line, no way he opts out of that contract unless there's some stupid teamthat's willing to pay him 20 million per year.

the J-Rich dunk over Odom is

 

[TheGodFresco]

Originally Posted by cheezybaby

Originally Posted by Yimoney23

damn now were starless now. No J-rich and BD on the team. Next year are going to be ugly. Action Jackson probably running the team.

no more winning team.

�
exactly, peole need to realize what�they are doing...Warriors finally field a decent team...but now they want to go and get younger and do this for the future??
All great teams in the NBA have a player that has been on the team for their whole career from, stupid decision by the management by trading JR...�Spurs (timmy), Lakers (Kobe), Hornets (Chris Paul, granted only been here for 3 years but he is basically a hornet for life),�next is going to be the Bobcats with�Raymond Felton


http://www.youtube.com/v/OeWYmWYLMZQ&hl=en
who do the Warriors have to do this now? CJ Watson and Azubuike? ha i laugh at that

http://www.youtube.com/v/1Zl8yDefPFs&hl=en

greatest preseason play eer

�i love those vids

 

[paul is on tilt]

cheezybaby, you're so right... oh what will we ever do without J-Rich

.

 

[santarosawarriorfan]

in a perfect world baron opts out and we build around Ellis, Biedrens, and Wright....
in a not so perfect world we sign baron to a 3 or 4 year deal at 10/per....NO more than what Chauncey and Nash got....
in the real world, Baron plays out this year with a lame duck coach, has another decent year and we S&T him.....

 

[jdmfanatic]

Originally Posted by Goodfellaz86

Originally Posted by tupac003

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by tupac003

A source close to Baron Davis said it's now a 50-50 chance that the Warriors' captain, coming off a season in which he averaged 21.8 points, 7.6 assists and 4.7 rebounds, will not remain (with the Warriors) beyond next season after various contract offers that were so low as to be practically hurtful. Davis is slated to make $17.8 million next season, the final installment of a six-year, $84-million contract extension he signed as a member of the New Orleans Hornets. That deal gave him the maximum allowable salary under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Davis is willing to give the Warriors a discount and drop down from "max player" status to help Golden State add more talent, but there is a clear difference of opinion in his market value. Contra Costa Times

Despite his impressive defensive statistics, Camby's value as trade bait has been hotly debated by Denver management for the past 12 months. While the Nuggets tried to pry one of the young stars from the Atlanta Hawks in return for Camby last spring, a 34-year-old center now would likely have more appeal to a contender looking for the final piece to its championship puzzle. Denver Post

As the Nuggets bet Iverson will not choose to opt out of a contract scheduled to pay him a salary in excess of $20 million next season, the team remains uncertain of what to do with the 32-year-old guard down the road, especially when Denver considers A.I. could be attractive to a potential trade partner looking for a marquee name to sell tickets in the short term and provide roster flexibility in the long term. Denver Post

While the Nuggets have given no indication they will actively shop Carmelo Anthony, the constant drama in the life of their 23-year-old forward has become the source of enough frustration within team headquarters that Denver would be willing to listen if somebody made a trade offer too good to refuse for Melo. The problem? In a league where stars such as Kobe Bryant and LeBron James dominate, it's difficult to come out ahead when trading a singular immense talent for any combination of players and draft picks. Denver Post

This is what I would do if Baron wants out
Three team trade

To Denver: Baron Davis, Larry Hughes, Andres Nocioni

To Chicago: Allen Iverson

To Golden State: Marcus Camby, Chucky Atkins, Lineas Kleiza, TJ Ford, Toronto 2nd round pick, Denver 1st round pick

To Toronto: Stephen Jackson, Draft Rights to Koryo Perovic and Denver 2nd round pick.

Toronto would never make this deal. Plus Golden state makes out IMO. That denver first round pick need to go to CHI.

This trade sucks --- Denver gives up the most to get the least back

You're joking about Denver gives up the most to get the least right? You guys at least get a star and two decent guys in Hughes and Nocioni. We give upour two best guys just for an aging Marcus Camby and TJ Ford?

 

[paul is on tilt]

Originally Posted by JDMFanatic

Originally Posted by Goodfellaz86

Originally Posted by tupac003

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by tupac003

A source close to Baron Davis said it's now a 50-50 chance that the Warriors' captain, coming off a season in which he averaged 21.8 points, 7.6 assists and 4.7 rebounds, will not remain (with the Warriors) beyond next season after various contract offers that were so low as to be practically hurtful. Davis is slated to make $17.8 million next season, the final installment of a six-year, $84-million contract extension he signed as a member of the New Orleans Hornets. That deal gave him the maximum allowable salary under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Davis is willing to give the Warriors a discount and drop down from "max player" status to help Golden State add more talent, but there is a clear difference of opinion in his market value. Contra Costa Times

Despite his impressive defensive statistics, Camby's value as trade bait has been hotly debated by Denver management for the past 12 months. While the Nuggets tried to pry one of the young stars from the Atlanta Hawks in return for Camby last spring, a 34-year-old center now would likely have more appeal to a contender looking for the final piece to its championship puzzle. Denver Post

As the Nuggets bet Iverson will not choose to opt out of a contract scheduled to pay him a salary in excess of $20 million next season, the team remains uncertain of what to do with the 32-year-old guard down the road, especially when Denver considers A.I. could be attractive to a potential trade partner looking for a marquee name to sell tickets in the short term and provide roster flexibility in the long term. Denver Post

While the Nuggets have given no indication they will actively shop Carmelo Anthony, the constant drama in the life of their 23-year-old forward has become the source of enough frustration within team headquarters that Denver would be willing to listen if somebody made a trade offer too good to refuse for Melo. The problem? In a league where stars such as Kobe Bryant and LeBron James dominate, it's difficult to come out ahead when trading a singular immense talent for any combination of players and draft picks. Denver Post

This is what I would do if Baron wants out
Three team trade

To Denver: Baron Davis, Larry Hughes, Andres Nocioni

To Chicago: Allen Iverson

To Golden State: Marcus Camby, Chucky Atkins, Lineas Kleiza, TJ Ford, Toronto 2nd round pick, Denver 1st round pick

To Toronto: Stephen Jackson, Draft Rights to Koryo Perovic and Denver 2nd round pick.

Toronto would never make this deal. Plus Golden state makes out IMO. That denver first round pick need to go to CHI.

This trade sucks --- Denver gives up the most to get the least back

You're joking about Denver gives up the most to get the least right? You guys at least get a star and two decent guys in Hughes and Nocioni. We give up our two best guys just for an aging Marcus Camby and TJ Ford?

That's why JohnnyRedStorm isn't a GM

.

 

[berkeley boy]

Originally Posted by acidicality

A source
close to Baron Davis said it's now a 50-50 chance that the Warriors' captain, coming off a season in which he averaged 21.8 points, 7.6 assists and
4.7 rebounds, will not remain (with the Warriors) beyond next season after various contract offers that were so low as to be practically
hurtful. Davis is slated to make $17.8 million
next season, the final installment of a six-year, $84-million contract extension he signed as a member of the New Orleans Hornets. That deal gave him the
maximum allowable salary under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Davis is willing to give the Warriors a discount and drop down from
"max player" status to help Golden State add more talent, but there is a clear difference of opinion in his market value. Contra Costa Times

Interesting...but Baron would be foolish to opt out given he isn't seeing that kind of money anywhere else (i think the article is saying
he'd leave GS after NEXT season, not opting out)...I WOULD deal him if we got a can't miss deal though. Nothing against him at all since he has been
our best player for quite a while, but if there's a trade that makes total sense it's worthwhile for us to deal him.


Damn, it seems like dude was really enjoying himself with his teammates at those parties and stuff. And he's the man in Oakland, I don't know whyhe'd want to leave.

He's supposed to make $17.8 million dollars next year. Sounds like the win win to me, but I'm not Baron Davis.


EDIT:
As far as the Warriors team being helpless without Davis, I doubt that. They have a very solid team. Monta Ellis is coming into his own no doubt. StephenJackson
has proved to be a solid team captain. If they must trade Davis, get a solid Big man that can run and play defense as well. That may be the only thing lacking
from the Warriors, a solid defensive presence down low.

 

[paul is on tilt]

Originally Posted by Berkeley Boy

Originally Posted by acidicality

A source
close to Baron Davis said it's now a 50-50 chance that the Warriors' captain, coming off a season in which he averaged 21.8 points, 7.6 assists and
4.7 rebounds, will not remain (with the Warriors) beyond next season after various contract offers that were so low as to be practically
hurtful. Davis is slated to make $17.8 million
next season, the final installment of a six-year, $84-million contract extension he signed as a member of the New Orleans Hornets. That deal gave him the
maximum allowable salary under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Davis is willing to give the Warriors a discount and drop down from
"max player" status to help Golden State add more talent, but there is a clear difference of opinion in his market value. Contra Costa Times

Interesting...but Baron would be foolish to opt out given he isn't seeing that kind of money anywhere else (i think the article is saying
he'd leave GS after NEXT season, not opting out)...I WOULD deal him if we got a can't miss deal though. Nothing against him at all since he has been
our best player for quite a while, but if there's a trade that makes total sense it's worthwhile for us to deal him.

Damn, it seems like dude was really enjoying himself with his teammates at those parties and stuff. And he's the man in Oakland, I don't know why he'd want to leave.

He's supposed to make $17.8 million dollars next year. Sounds like the win win to me, but I'm not Baron Davis.


EDIT:
As far as the Warriors team being helpless without Davis, I doubt that. They have a very solid team. Monta Ellis is coming into his own no doubt. Stephen Jackson
has proved to be a solid team captain. If they must trade Davis, get a solid Big man that can run and play defense as well. That may be the only thing lacking
from the Warriors, a solid defensive presence down low.

If we do have to trade Baron, I don't think the Warriors need a big man as much as they need another point guard...

• Nellie is our coach... likes to run
• We want Brandon Wright to develop along with Andris Biedrins
• Monta isn't a point guard yet... not going to run the team for 82 games
• We don't want S-Jax to do that obviously
  

Am I missing some other reasons? I probably did, but these are just off the top of my head...

 

[nycknicks105]

how did this thread become a Baron Davis/ Golden State Warriors thread?

 

[berkeley boy]

Originally Posted by Paul Is On Tilt

Berkeley Boy wrote:

---

acidicality wrote:

---

A
source


close to Baron Davis said it's now a 50-50 chance that the Warriors' captain, coming off a season in which he averaged 21.8 points, 7.6 assists
and


4.7 rebounds, will not remain (with the Warriors) beyond next season after various contract offers that were so low as to be practically


hurtful. Davis is slated to make $17.8
million


next season, the final installment of a six-year, $84-million contract extension he signed as a member of the New Orleans Hornets. That deal gave him the


maximum allowable salary under the league's collective bargaining agreement. Davis is willing to give the Warriors a discount and drop down from


"max player" status to help Golden State add more talent, but there is a clear difference of opinion in his market value. Contra Costa Times

Interesting...but Baron would be foolish to opt out given he isn't seeing that kind of money anywhere else (i think the article is saying


he'd leave GS after NEXT season, not opting out)...I WOULD deal him if we got a can't miss deal though. Nothing against him at all since he has
been


our best player for quite a while, but if there's a trade that makes total sense it's worthwhile for us to deal him.






Damn, it seems like dude was really enjoying himself with his teammates at those parties and stuff. And he's the man in Oakland, I don't know why
he'd want to leave.




He's supposed to make $17.8 million dollars next year. Sounds like the win win to me, but I'm not Baron Davis.






EDIT:


As far as the Warriors team being helpless without Davis, I doubt that. They have a very solid team. Monta Ellis is coming into his own no doubt. Stephen
Jackson


has proved to be a solid team captain. If they must trade Davis, get a solid Big man that can run and play defense as well. That may be the only thing
lacking


from the Warriors, a solid defensive presence down low.




If we do have to trade Baron, I don't think the Warriors need a big man as much as they need another point guard...

• Nellie is our coach... likes to run
  
• 
  
• We want Brandon Wright to develop along with Andris Biedrins
  
• 
  
• Monta isn't a point guard yet... not going to run the team for 82 games
• 
  
• We don't want S-Jax to do that obviously
  

Am I missing some other reasons? I probably did, but these are just off the top of my head...




True, but even with all the running, somebody that can play the 5 and be a difference maker on defense seemed to be the difference between making and notmaking the playoffs this year.

Is Biedrins that guy? He seems soft to me. I like Wright. I want to see more of what he can do next year.

I actually think the best situation for Baron and the Warriors is that he stays with the team.

 

[acidicality]

If we do have to trade Baron, I don't think the Warriors need a big man as much as they need another point guard...

• Nellie is our coach... likes to run
• We want Brandon Wright to develop along with Andris Biedrins
• Monta isn't a point guard yet... not going to run the team for 82 games
• We don't want S-Jax to do that obviously
  

Am I missing some other reasons? I probably did, but these are just off the top of my head...

Yeah...our need for a big man and need for "interior presence" really is NOT as bad as people make it out to be. It's because our coach isenamored with players who can shoot the 3, and if you can't do that, you're not going to get consistently a lot of playing time. I mean, Andris is ourstarter at the 5, and sometimes he only got 20-25 minutes a game

(w/ofoul trouble or anything like that)...and Nellie didn't even play Brandan Wright that much and of course never played Patrick O'Bryant, who hasn'teven gotten a CHANCE to show himself on the court...