Ska its been going on long enough...time to lock....

Originally Posted by TheWire11

i should nt be surprised considering you guys passed on KG, Kobe, and every other superstar for them dudes... SMH..
Then why was Kobe dying to get out LA and play alongside Deng?

How quickly some of y'all forget

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And now Kobe's in the Finals with basically the same team, minus Kwame plus Gasol. I wouldn't say Kobe is necessarily an authority onassessing talent.
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

That offense needs to be changed and Bron needs someone else who can put the ball on the floor and create.

Mike Redd is not making that team go any further.

They do I like Reed with the cavs but for right now with West in the line up a like the way that looks. But you are right about someone who can create butthey also need to get a new big man becasue Big V is getting old.
 
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

If Michael Redd was gonna come cheap...should San Antonio be the first team in line to get Redd?
There's no way they can get Redd without breaking up the trio they have now. And all three of them are better players than Redd, with less restrictive contracts...
Redd averaged 27 ppg in 06-07. His points dropped last year, but his FG attempts went down and his assists went up. He's leagues above Sczcerbiak. He's more like a "Ray Allen minus" than a "Sczcerbiak plus."
The difference between Ray and Redd is that Ray actually had other aspects to his game at one point than just shooting. Michael Redd is a jump shooter that doesn't create his own shot very well...

He's better than Szczerbiak, but not on Ray Allen's level. He's somewhere in the middle. And, to me anyways, he's not worth crippling yourself in terms of cap flexibility for 3+ years in an attempt to keep LeBron happy.

Does anyone really believe Michael Redd makes them a legitimate, hands-down lock for the ECF or an NBA Finals appearance the next 3 years? Because if you're taking on that restrictive of a contract for a fringe all-star type, he damn well better be a 'put me over the top' acquisition... And I don't think Redd is that for Cleveland. That team has more holes than Michael Redd himself can fix. Other than shoot, what does he do at a high level? He can't defend, he doesn't create for others, he doesn't handle particularly well... If I'm paying near max-dollar for a guy, I'd like him to be more than a stand around jump shooter...

Redd doesn't necessarily need to create his own shot with Lebron on his team. Redd also is going to make things easier for Lebron, instead of defensesclosing in on Lebron when he drives they now would have to think twice with a lethal jump shooter like Redd. Cripple your salary cap for the next 3 years orlose the best player in the NBA in 3 years. Make your pick, if the Cavs want Lebron to stay they need to show committment to building a team around him. AndRedd would show that committment.
 
JDB1523:
Ska are you joking with that Cavs lineup?

I made a mistake on the lineup I said would be the ideal lineup.

Should have been this:

1. West
2. Redd
3. LeBron
4. Smith
5. Ben

That's solid, bro.
Solid, but could be better IMO. I like Z in there at the Center spot and Ben at the 4, with Joe and AV coming off the bench. Now, looking at the trade options we might have to include AV with Wally in some sort of package, but if our bigs stay intact this is our most likely starting lineup:

West
Redd
LBJ
Ben
Z

Since our frontcourt averages around 50 years old, Ferry HAS TO (and I've said this in numerous posts a few months back) look for some younger bigs, whether through trade or signings. I love the idea of Brand, but then where? Z and Brand starting, with Ben and Joe off the bench? That might not be bad since Ben played limited minutes with a bad back anyways, but that then requires the move of AV in a trade. It'll be interesting to see how this thing pans out...
 
Maybe I only watch Redd during games when he goes off but dude attacks the basketball more than I thought.

Watched him give the Pistons 50 in the playoffs a couple years back on mostly dribble drives.

Edit- It was 40
 
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk

If Michael Redd was gonna come cheap...should San Antonio be the first team in line to get Redd?
There's no way they can get Redd without breaking up the trio they have now. And all three of them are better players than Redd, with less restrictive contracts...
Redd averaged 27 ppg in 06-07. His points dropped last year, but his FG attempts went down and his assists went up. He's leagues above Sczcerbiak. He's more like a "Ray Allen minus" than a "Sczcerbiak plus."
The difference between Ray and Redd is that Ray actually had other aspects to his game at one point than just shooting. Michael Redd is a jump shooter that doesn't create his own shot very well...

He's better than Szczerbiak, but not on Ray Allen's level. He's somewhere in the middle. And, to me anyways, he's not worth crippling yourself in terms of cap flexibility for 3+ years in an attempt to keep LeBron happy.

Does anyone really believe Michael Redd makes them a legitimate, hands-down lock for the ECF or an NBA Finals appearance the next 3 years? Because if you're taking on that restrictive of a contract for a fringe all-star type, he damn well better be a 'put me over the top' acquisition... And I don't think Redd is that for Cleveland. That team has more holes than Michael Redd himself can fix. Other than shoot, what does he do at a high level? He can't defend, he doesn't create for others, he doesn't handle particularly well... If I'm paying near max-dollar for a guy, I'd like him to be more than a stand around jump shooter...

You can say the same thing about Dirk and I need to know what are these aspects of Ray Allen's game that are way better than Michael Redd.
 
Cripple your salary cap for the next 3 years or lose the best player in the NBA in 3 years. Make your pick, if the Cavs want Lebron to stay they need to show committment to building a team around him. And Redd would show that committment.
Commit that kind of money, and a draft pick to Michael Redd, and you're putting yourself in a situation where he's the only addition wortha damn to your roster going into next year. And to match money, you're giving up two of your biggest trade chips in expiring contracts...

I just don't see how it makes sense for them. They have too many other issues to blow all their roster flexibility on a guy that doesn't necessarilylock them in as one of the two best teams in the East...
I need to know what are these aspects of Ray Allen's game that are way better than Michael Redd.
When Ray was younger, he was a better shooter, a better ball handler, he was better at creating his own offense, he attacked the rim and was moreexplosive off the bounce... Before Ray got old, he was much more versatile than Michael Redd is right now.
 
there's a strong possibility Dumars will break up the core of Prince, Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Wallace and Antonio McDyess in an effort to rebuild around Jason Maxiell, Rodney Stuckey, Amir Johnson and Aaron Affalo.

In my imaginary place here are the likely places i want them to go to...

Sheed was home sick so..
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RIP kicked Larry Hughes off the team, because he was posing as RIP wearing #32 in CLE and CHI while shooting bricks...
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Chauncey went to Miami, when he heard they drafted Michael Beasley...
he couldn't fathom having Chris Quinn passing the ball to Beasley...
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Tayshaun wanted Kevin McHale to see what Ndudi Ebi #44 was supposed to do in Minnesota..
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Meanwhile back in the real world...

Michael Redd entered the realm of the King..
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If Michael Redd is their big move for LeBron, he almost certainly will leave in '10.
 
Dwyane Wade says he keeps hearing his name mentioned in trade rumors involving the Bulls and Miami Heat. Would the Bulls give up the No. 1 draft position to the Heat in exchange for Wade and the No. 2 overall selection? Or some combination of other players and picks? "I have heard my name being talked about, and I can't worry about it," Wade said Monday at the Attack Athletics training facility on the West Side. "There is one thing in this league that you have no control over. If another organization wants you, then you should feel good to be wanted." Chicago Tribune

When he is not dealing with trade rumors and tabloid gossip regarding personal relationships with the likes of Star Jones, Wade has been rehabbing his body at Tim Grover's elaborate facility. "Not just for now, but for the rest of my career I want to make sure my body is strong," Wade said. Chicago Tribune

Detroit Pistons President of Basketball Operations Joe Dumars announced today that Flip Saunders will not return next season as the team's head coach. "Decisions like this are difficult to make, especially with the success we have had throughout the last three regular-seasons," Dumars said. "However, at this time, I feel it is necessary to make a change. I thank Flip for his hard work and dedication, but it is time for a new voice to lead our team." InsideHoops.com

Flip Saunders was fired as Detroit Pistons coach Tuesday, four days after his team was eliminated by the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference finals. AP/MBNBC

Alonzo Mourning, whose season ended when he suffered severe knee and leg injuries in a game in December, said that if his body gets healthy, he'd like to play one more season before finally calling it a career. "I just want to get my body right to do it. I need to get my body where my mind is," said Mourning, while appearing at Miami Dolphins defensive end Jason Taylor's charity golf event. Mourning, 38, has said several times previously that a return wasn't out of the question - but yesterday's comments may have been his strongest yet. AP/Philadelphia Inquirer

"I want to come back and play another year," Zo said at Jason Taylor's charity golf event Monday. "I just want to get my body right to do it. I need to get my body where my mind is." Recall that after the regular season Mourning said he'd need four or five months to decide whether his knee would allow him to return. That means the announcement will probably come after Zo's Summer Groove Introducing D. Wade (previously Zo's Summer Groove), which is scheduled for July 9-13. Palm Beach Post

Gilbert Arenas told me that after looking at his contract today, he actually needs to file paperwork for opting out by June 20th, 10 days before the June 30th deadline. Free agency opens July 1. Arenas said he still plans on doing so as soon as late next week. He said he'll have a lawyer look it all over and make sure everything is tight. Washington Post

I asked Gilbert "why wait" at all and he responded with: "Just in case anything happens, I'll be covered." Translation: If the guy hurts the knee or gets hit by a bus, he'll still get $12.8 million next year. Washington Post

Arenas: "Actually, I'm going to be out of the country until the middle of July." He'll be traveling in China so other teams interested in making a play had better have a good cell phone signal. Washington Post

Yesterday, Arenas reiterated that he intends to opt out of the final year of a contract with the Wizards that would pay him $12.8 million. But he also said he'll wait until the June 30 deadline to file the paperwork with the NBA, which means it's going to be a long, flirtatious offseason, as he tries to extract a maximum-level contract; something in the neighborhood of $100 million over six years is what he would like, please. Washington Post

Arenas plans to represent himself in negotiations, which merely suggests the confidence he has in himself, and his ability to be both smart and winsome in dealing with Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld. "I'm not opting out to leave, I'm opting out to sign," he has said, as if that isn't a sly maneuver to have it both ways. Washington Post

First, let's consider the minuses. There is a seemingly compelling case to be made -- and some fans are making it -- that the Wizards don't need Arenas. When he was healthy and started 70-plus games in 2006-07, they went 41-41. This season they went 43-39, despite the fact that he made just 13 starts on his bad knee. There was a negligible difference in the team's shooting percentage, which hovered right around 45 percent during both seasons, or assists, averaging 19.6 per game this season, versus 20.2 in 2006-07. (Both seasons ended in first-round playoff losses.) Washington Post

Golden State has the 14th overall pick in the June 26 draft, and Nelson said the Warriors have no plans to trade their selection. He believes the draft is deeper and bigger than a year ago, and made no secret of his desire to add a big man to his roster. San Francisco Chronicle

Though he assumes that Baron Davis and the rest of the Warriors' core will be back, Nelson also admits that the new season will bring a new philosophy. Brandan Wright and Marco Belinelli, who rarely played during their rookie season, already have begun practicing in Oakland again, and Nelson insists they will be worked into the rotation. San Francisco Chronicle
 
tupac003 wrote:

Detroit Pistons President of Basketball Operations Joe Dumars announced today that Flip Saunders will not return next season as the team's head coach. "Decisions like this are difficult to make, especially with the success we have had throughout the last three regular-seasons," Dumars said. "However, at this time, I feel it is necessary to make a change. I thank Flip for his hard work and dedication, but it is time for a new voice to lead our team." InsideHoops.com

Flip Saunders was fired as Detroit Pistons coach Tuesday, four days after his team was eliminated by the Boston Celtics in the Eastern Conference finals. AP/MBNBC

That was quick.
 
Originally Posted by JapanAir21

No. 2 AND Wade?!
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That's ridiculous, and I don't really like Wade.
Whoever wrote that must have been high...

I didn't even want to post it. LOL

The heat have wade and the number 2 pick...why give that up?
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

If Michael Redd is their big move for LeBron, he almost certainly will leave in '10.

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seriously

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@ that D.Wade rumor, I assume it would involve the #1 and Hinrich, whothe Heat have been interested in.
Wade's health would be the obvious concern here
 
Originally Posted by 1and12

there's a strong possibility Dumars will break up the core of Prince, Chauncey Billups, Richard Hamilton, Wallace and Antonio McDyess in an effort to rebuild around Jason Maxiell, Rodney Stuckey, Amir Johnson and Aaron Affalo.

In my imaginary place here are the likely places i want them to go to...

Sheed was home sick so..
rasheedcopybq2.jpg


RIP kicked Larry Hughes off the team, because he was posing as RIP wearing #32 in CLE and CHI while shooting bricks...
ripcopyju4.jpg


Chauncey went to Miami, when he heard they drafted Michael Beasley...
he couldn't fathom having Chris Quinn passing the ball to Beasley...
chaunceycopysk5.jpg



Tayshaun wanted Kevin McHale to see what Ndudi Ebi #44 was supposed to do in Minnesota..
princecopynb4.jpg




Meanwhile back in the real world...

Michael Redd entered the realm of the King..
michaelreddcopyly5.jpg


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those are some nice PS.

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at Heat trade #2 and Wade for #1. That is not even true, just made up BS. What would even be the point of doing that?
 
what kind of trade is that?? wade and #2 for # 1, if the heat do that, they deserve to stay garbage...
 
On ATH, they were saying #1 plus a package of players, makes a lot more sense, but still.
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They didn't specify which players.
 
Originally Posted by Peteweezy

Gordon put up 14 shots a game and shot 43% AVG 18 points a game ya thats jacking shots up
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Dudes don't know they talking about just saying so and so is whatever thats why I wouldnt even respond to most of these cats. Yeah I'm pretty sure its a ton of bench players that can do what Gordon does. I also know cats just slurping off espn when they don't mention it was KB that said he wouldn't go to the Bulls if Deng was included Paxson was going to trade him.
keep on thinking ben gordon is more than just a poor man's bobby jackson....

and ill keep on laughing when the bulls keep having terrible seasons...

stay satisfied with a poor man's bobby jackson and a 2nd option player....
 
Another coach bites the dust in Motown(4th coach in like 8 years)It appears Michael Curry is going to be named the HC. From all accounts MC is well liked andrespected by the players. I think it is high time Dumars traded one of his core players as it appears the Pistons as currently constituted has gone(ECF) as faras they can go. I think Prince is most likely to be moved along with Sheed.
 
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