Ska its been going on long enough...time to lock....

keep on thinking ben gordon is more than just a poor man's bobby jackson....

and ill keep on laughing when the bulls keep having terrible seasons...

stay satisfied with a poor man's bobby jackson and a 2nd option player....
you have no clue what you are talking about
 
Originally Posted by NobleKane

Originally Posted by Peteweezy

Gordon put up 14 shots a game and shot 43% AVG 18 points a game ya thats jacking shots up
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Dudes don't know they talking about just saying so and so is whatever thats why I wouldnt even respond to most of these cats. Yeah I'm pretty sure its a ton of bench players that can do what Gordon does. I also know cats just slurping off espn when they don't mention it was KB that said he wouldn't go to the Bulls if Deng was included Paxson was going to trade him.
keep on thinking ben gordon is more than just a poor man's bobby jackson....

and ill keep on laughing when the bulls keep having terrible seasons...

stay satisfied with a poor man's bobby jackson and a 2nd option player....

Damn Noble, you salty as hell against

A. Ben Gordon

B. Chicago, IL

C. the Chicago Bulls

D. All of the above

E. The Whole Wide World


Ben Gordon is not a great defender, nor is he a great ball-handler. He's a small, but strong, shooting guard who can drop 25 on any given night. Thereare times when he makes very bad decisions, and the urge to trade him, or let him re-sign with another team kicks in, but as presently constituted, Ben Gordonis the Chicago Bulls' most able scorer. Now, make no mistake, if Gordon is your number 1 option then your team is most likely not very good. I've beenwatching the Bulls since 1990, and have seen more of Ben Gordon than you probably have. He is not on your team, so you shouldn't get so adamant about yourdislike for him. I'd like to believe that the Bulls, as an organization, and right on down to every single player, and water boy, had a down year......ahorribly terrifying bad year which tested my limits, but I firmly believe that players, including BG7, will man up and come back next season with 26 chips ontheir shoulders.
 
Rumors from Atlanta involving Detroit and Charlotte...

http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/hawks/entries/2008/06/04/a_decision_with.html

According to my spy the Detroit Pistons have asked for permission to speak with Hawks coach Mike Woodson (that's his title for at least the next 26 days or so unless something breaks before the end of the month) about their vacant coaching position.
Solid reports out of Detroit have Pistons assistant Michael Curry lined up for the job. But the Pistons have apparently covered their bases if that doesn't work out by contacting the representative of Woodson, who was the lead assistant on Larry Brown's staff when the Pistons won the NBA title in 2004.

It's not a surprising development for me, mostly because I know what high regard the folks in Detroit have for Woodson and the job he did not only there but also what he's done with the Hawks. I've had more than one spy confirm for me that had Woodson not bolted for the Hawks job after that title season that he (and not Flip Saunders) would have been the choice to replace Larry Brown.

Woodson's hard-charging style was a perfect fit for that veteran Pistons squad. And if you've seen the way the Pistons players greet him during games (the parade of hugs and man-love borders on creepy sometimes) it should be clear to anyone watching that there is a huge amount of respect for Woodson from those players.

(Another twist, if you will, just popped into my email inbox. The Bobcats just announced a "portion" of Brown's staff, with the lead assistant's position clearly not one of them. That means there is another opening out there for Woodson if things don't pan out either in Detroit or with the Hawks. But again, that's just an observation).



DO IT JOE/MJ!

Please?
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

If Michael Redd is their big move for LeBron, he almost certainly will leave in '10.

I hope he does bounce in '10 but if does not come to New York I don't care where he goes. But on another note son you trying to come down and watchthe game it will be me, fox5kobe, and my dudes from Harlem are going to watch the game at that spot that we went to last time so holla at me yea digg.
 
Originally Posted by The Lowa

Originally Posted by Al3xis

If Michael Redd is their big move for LeBron, he almost certainly will leave in '10.

I hope he does bounce in '10 but if does not come to New York I don't care where he goes. But on another note son you trying to come down and watch the game it will be me, fox5kobe, and my dudes from Harlem are going to watch the game at that spot that we went to last time so holla at me yea digg.

What night? .....my phone is all messed up now
 
Originally Posted by Scottsauce88

keep on thinking ben gordon is more than just a poor man's bobby jackson....

and ill keep on laughing when the bulls keep having terrible seasons...

stay satisfied with a poor man's bobby jackson and a 2nd option player....
you have no clue what you are talking about
 
Heat guard Dwyane Wade spends the offseason in his Chicago-area hometown, but don't count on him becoming a Bull anytime soon. The Heat has no interest in trading Wade, a five-time All-Star and 2006 Finals MVP -- not even for the No. 1 pick, three sources close to Wade and the Heat said Tuesday. The reaction came a day after Wade, speaking to reporters after a workout in Chicago, said he heard rumors the Bulls had interest in trading for him. Miami Herald

''I have heard my name being talked about, and I can't worry about it,'' Wade reportedly told the Chicago Tribune on Monday. ``If another organization wants you, then you should feel good to be wanted.'' Wade can opt out of his contract in two seasons and become a free agent. Miami Herald

Chauncey Billups and Rasheed Wallace are most likely to go. Rip Hamilton and Antonio McDyess are most likely to stay. Tayshaun Prince falls somewhere in between. I will explain all that in a second. But first, a word about the coach: Detroit Free Press
Billups has four years left on his contract, but the last year is not guaranteed. He is owed $36.3 million over the next three years - reasonable by the NBA's unreasonable standards. So he is highly tradeable. Detroit Free Press

Rip isn't going anywhere. He is still among the best in the NBA at using screens, and he is a rare player who can average 20 points per game without dominating the ball. Detroit Free Press

Rasheed Wallace, who refused to address his future with Pistons, apologized for being late before sitting down for a question-and-answer session moderated by espn.com columnist Scoop Jackson. And there were no bombshells there. Rasheed Wallace said it was tough sitting at home with the NBA Finals set to start Thursday. He said his biggest weakness was his "big mouth." And he didn't sound like somebody who wanted to leave Detroit, as he talked about how much he loved his chemistry with teammates Richard Hamilton and Chauncey Billups. Detroit Free Press

McDyess, who turns 34 next season and has two years and $14 million left on his contract, is probably the least likely to be moved. He's not likely to draw much interest. Prince and Hamilton are the youngest members of the Pistons' core group. Neither has an outrageous contract. Prince is due $31 million over the next three years and Hamilton is due $22 million over the next two, though he can opt out after next season. Detroit News

"I'll make a significant trade," Dumars, the Pistons' president of basketball operations, declared. "… "We have a core group of guys here that for the first time in six years I'm letting teams in the league know I'll do a deal. … I'm open for business." See that? None of the navel-gazing GM's and presidents often give the media. No hiding behind, "We'll sit down and take a look at things." Detroit Free Press

The name that is expected to be actively bandied about is that of starting point guard T.J. Ford. The point-guard combination of Ford and Jose Calderon was considered one of Toronto's strengths two season ago, but it turned into a bad chemistry experiment this year, particularly after Ford returned from a neck injury in February. National Post

Jose Calderon is a restricted free agent, but throughout the season, Toronto's president and general manager, Bryan Colangelo, said he was going to retain him. The Raptors have the right to match any offer Calderon gets from another team, a process that begins July 1. Ford drew interest around the league at last week's pre-draft camp in Orlando, although teams might try to lowball the Raptors given the guard's history of neck injuries. He has two years plus a player option for 2010-11 left on his contract, which totals US$25-million. National Post

The Raptors have several players with contracts that expire at the end of next season, and could likely offer an attractive package in an attempt to upgrade at the swingman position. The contracts of Rasho Nesterovic (US$8.4-million), Anthony Parker (US$4.55-million), Jorge Garbajosa (US$4.35-million), Joey Graham (a shade less than US$2.5-million) and Maceo Baston (US$1.97-million) all come off the books next year. Toronto could very well look to trade some of those deals to acquire a more productive player with a lengthier contract. National Post

While no one wants to come out say it on the record, the Raptors are listening very closely (but not shopping!) to offers for T.J. Ford and based one the activity at the Orlando pre-draft camp, there seems to be a legitimate (read not stiff; not bad contract; not bad guy) market for the oft-injured point guard, with as many as five or six teams making inquiries. The Raptors have had some conversations with Ford's agent, Arn Tellum, and he's being kept in the loop as both parties seek an amicable separation. There is also interest in Jose Calderon, but the Raptors seem more certain than ever that barring some absolute jaw-dropping offer, Calderon will stay with the club with Ford on the way out, though hopefully not for pennies on the dollar. Globe and Mail

The one-sided nature of the trade inspired a lot of people to believe that retired Memphis GM, Jerry West, a Lakers' legend, played a part in facilitating the deal. West was instrumental recruiting Wallace as his replacement in Memphis and still holds a close relationship with Heisley. His history in Los Angeles, especially his bond with Lakers GM Mitch Kupchak and star Kobe Bryant, made even the fair-minded cynical about the scenario. Yahoo

One source with knowledge of the process said the Bulls had made the most credible offer. For Gasol and Memphis' Hakim Warrick, the Bulls were willing to part with Andres Nocioni, Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah, Thabo Sefolosha, possibly Adrian Griffin and draft picks. Yahoo

Warriors coach Don Nelson bristles at the notion that he doesn't develop young players adequately. For what may be his final season, he'll have no other choice. Nelson acknowledged over the weekend that he will return to the Warriors' bench for the 2008-09 campaign and finish off his contract at a salary of $5.1 million. On Tuesday, he insisted that he is comfortable with the idea of incorporating little-used 2007 draft picks Brandan Wright and Marco Belinelli into his rotation, even if it means risking a step backward in the Western Conference standings. Contra Costa Times

Don Nelson said he couldn't speculate what kind of impact this new Warriors order would have on star guard Baron Davis, who is weighing whether to opt out from the final year of his deal, passing up $17.8 million in the process. Davis was extremely disappointed at Golden State's inability to repeat as a playoff participant and may not want to wait on a franchise that's looking further down the road. Contra Costa Times

The plan has obvious implications for several other Golden State free agents. Second-year center Patrick O'Bryant made it clear during the season that he has no interest in returning to a Nelson-led team, and veteran forwards Matt Barnes and Mickael Pietrus might be pushed out in order to get the younger players more court time. Contra Costa Times
 
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We'll see if Nellie learns;

One source with knowledge of the process said the Bulls had made the most credible offer. For Gasol and Memphis' Hakim Warrick, the Bulls were willing to part with Andres Nocioni, Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah, Thabo Sefolosha, possibly Adrian Griffin and draft picks. Yahoo


As much as I liked them, the Memphis organization is stupid.
 
Originally Posted by Al3xis

Originally Posted by The Lowa

Originally Posted by Al3xis

If Michael Redd is their big move for LeBron, he almost certainly will leave in '10.

I hope he does bounce in '10 but if does not come to New York I don't care where he goes. But on another note son you trying to come down and watch the game it will be me, fox5kobe, and my dudes from Harlem are going to watch the game at that spot that we went to last time so holla at me yea digg.

What night? .....my phone is all messed up now

Thursday
 
Originally Posted by The Lowa

Originally Posted by Al3xis

Originally Posted by The Lowa

Originally Posted by Al3xis

If Michael Redd is their big move for LeBron, he almost certainly will leave in '10.

I hope he does bounce in '10 but if does not come to New York I don't care where he goes. But on another note son you trying to come down and watch the game it will be me, fox5kobe, and my dudes from Harlem are going to watch the game at that spot that we went to last time so holla at me yea digg.

What night? .....my phone is all messed up now

Thursday

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, not to get all up in yall's business, but I like how you totally switched up the way you talk when you were directed @ Al3xis.
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Warriors coach Don Nelson bristles at the notion that he doesn't develop young players adequately. For what may be his final season, he'll have no other choice. Nelson acknowledged over the weekend that he will return to the Warriors' bench for the 2008-09 campaign and finish off his contract at a salary of $5.1 million. On Tuesday, he insisted that he is comfortable with the idea of incorporating little-used 2007 draft picks Brandan Wright and Marco Belinelli into his roation, even if it means risking a step backward in the Western Conference standings. Contra Costa Times


Dammit Nellie!! Just admit your
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was wrong!! You should have played your bench more to develop youryounger players so that later on in the season, you didn't have to rely heavily on playing the starters when they obviously wore down because of yourrefusal to give them rest. I hate how Nellie STILL doesn't want to admit he's wrong and says "even if it means risking a step backward int heWestern Conference standings". I know Nellie didn't say that, but there's another article posted in the Warriors Offseason Thread that had quotedNellie saying that he believes playing the rookies would have led to the Warriors not getting 48 minutes.


Now here's where I disagree. Do what you want in the 4th quarter and play your veterans... it's crunch time, I understand, but in the 1st - 3rdquarters, at least let your rooks get some time on the floor. Use that time to slowly build them up and then you can use them in the 4th quarter later on inthe season. God knows that Matt Barnes, Al Harrington, Mickael Pietrus (for the most part) weren't getting the job done and yet Nellie went to them gameafter game after game >:.


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Here's the quote...
"Last year, we were very single-minded in trying to make the playoffs. It's what the organization wanted to do, to make the playoffs again, and we tried to do that and we failed," he said. "Part of my job next year is to bring these guys along, and if it costs us some games, which it probably will, then that's what it'll do.
http://niketalk.yuku.com/sreply/2129232/t/Official-Warriors-Off-Season-Thread.html
 
Stuff like this is the 20% of Nellie that Warrior fans don't like about him. He's a great coach and has a great philosophy, but come on now.....[jimrome] I know you hate rookies, Belly Nellie. But come on now. You have a highly touted prospect rotting on a bench for most of the season, and a sharpshooterrookie, as well as a former lottery pick that never got any shine, just use your players now. Let them gain the experience in the game, let them play throughtheir mistakes, it won't cost you any games. Next time I see Matt Barnes playing center my ego is just going to explode man[/jim rome]
 
Jim Rome...
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Blatche and Wilcox both arrested today.
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Allan Houston works out @ draft camp in Phoenix?
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Dallas has started to work out Reyshawn Terry out of NC.
 
Originally Posted by JapanAir21

Jim Rome...
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Blatche and Wilcox both arrested today.
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Allan Houston works out @ draft camp in Phoenix?
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Dallas has started to work out Reyshawn Terry out of NC.

What was Blatche arrested for?
 
ESPN's Chad Ford has some draft rumors that seem pretty interesting.
June 4, ESPN: Which teams are the most likely to move a pick by draft night?

Miami Heat: We are continuing to hear that if the Bulls draft Derrick Rose with the No. 1 pick (which is looking more and more likely) they'll try to movethe No. 2 pick for either a draft prospect like O.J. Mayo or a veteran point guard like T.J. Ford or Kirk Hinrich.

Of course, the Heat will want more than just a straight swap for giving up such a coveted pick. With so many teams in pursuit of a scoring forward like MichaelBeasley, the Heat could really net a starter and a high pick or solid prospect. They could change their mind after Beasley comes in for workouts, but right nowit's looking less likely that they'll draft at No. 2.

Michael Rosenberg of the Free Press writes that Chauncey is the most likely Pistons to be traded.
June 4, Detroit Free Press: Last summer, the Pistons invested up to $60.5 million in Mr. Big Shot. So why is he the most likely to go? A few reasons.

Dumars talked Tuesday about a lack of urgency in his players. Billups is as responsible for that as anybody. Dumars surely wants a renewed emphasis on defense,and Billups is the weakest defender among starters.

Billups is most likely to go because teams covet point guards more than other positions, and the Pistons have two.

The Pistons believe Rodney Stuckey can be an elite point guard -- sooner rather than later. Billups, meanwhile, is still an All-Star-caliber player. Anybodywith a young roster and a hole at point guard would have to be interested in him.


So, with Joe Dumars looking to break up the current core of the Pistons, and Rosenberg's good reasoning about Chauncey being the most likely Startertraded, could some kind of deal sending Billups to Miami for the #2 overall pick be worked out?

If possible, the trade would look something like this: Detroit sends to Miami PG Chauncey Billups and PF Jason Maxiell and recieves Miami's first-rounddraft pick(#2 overall/Beasley), Marcus Banks and Mark Blount.

According to Chad Ford, several other teams are also looking to deal their first-round picks. For Piston fans, this could be the most exciting time leading upto the draft since 2003 when the Pistons took Darko Milicic with the #2 overall pick.

http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress/2008/06/could_the_detroit_pistons_trad.html

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If that trade happens 4 d-wade n the #2 pick 4 the bulls #1 picks the bulls could be the best team in the east
 
So, with Joe Dumars looking to break up the current core of the Pistons, and Rosenberg's good reasoning about Chauncey being the most likely Starter traded, could some kind of deal sending Billups to Miami for the #2 overall pick be worked out?

If possible, the trade would look something like this: Detroit sends to Miami PG Chauncey Billups and PF Jason Maxiell and recieves Miami's first-round draft pick(#2 overall/Beasley), Marcus Banks and Mark Blount.

According to Chad Ford, several other teams are also looking to deal their first-round picks. For Piston fans, this could be the most exciting time leading up to the draft since 2003 when the Pistons took Darko Milicic with the #2 overall pick.
Chauncey Billups is not worth the #2 pick
If that trade happens 4 d-wade n the #2 pick 4 the bulls #1 picks the bulls could be the best team in the east
The Heat already said they have no interest in trading him
 
Look for the Golden State Warriors to pursue Milwaukee Bucks forward Yi Jianlian strongly in the coming weeks. During last year's draft, the Warriorsagreed to trade Jason Richardson to the Charlotte Bobcats for the No. 8 pick, with the hope that Yi would fall to the Bobcats at that spot.

The team was shocked that the Bucks, for whom Yi refused to work out, took him at No. 6. The Bobcats took Brandan Wright and traded him to Golden State. WhileWright played well for the Warriors toward the end of the season, they still covet Yi, according to sources.

If the Warriors were to offer Wright and the No. 14 pick for Yi, that might be too much for the Bucks to pass on. The team is in rebuilding mode and might beready to accept a two-for-one deal.

-ESPN.COM
 
Originally Posted by AgentPD21

If that trade happens 4 d-wade n the #2 pick 4 the bulls #1 picks the bulls could be the best team in the east

I am sorry that seems to be a lil much to part with for Miami, I don't see that happening.
 
If the Indiana Pacers want to part ways with Jermaine O'Neal, they'll have to trade him. O'Neal's representatives recently informed the Pacers he will not opt out of the final two years of his contract. O'Neal had until June 30 to decide whether to become an unrestricted free agent. The Pacers weren't surprised. President Larry Bird said in February he didn't expect O'Neal to opt out because he would be leaving behind $44 million on the final two years of his contract. Indianapolis Star


That doesn't guarantee O'Neal will return. The Pacers likely will look to trade him. Indianapolis Star

Look for the Golden State Warriors to pursue Milwaukee Bucks forward Yi Jianlian strongly in the coming weeks. During last year's draft, the Warriors agreed to trade Jason Richardson to the Charlotte Bobcats for the No. 8 pick, with the hope that Yi would fall to the Bobcats at that spot. ESPN.com

The team was shocked that the Bucks, for whom Yi refused to work out, took him at No. 6. The Bobcats took Brandan Wright and traded him to Golden State. While Wright played well for the Warriors toward the end of the season, they still covet Yi, according to sources. If the Warriors were to offer Wright and the No. 14 pick for Yi, that might be too much for the Bucks to pass on. The team is in rebuilding mode and might be ready to accept a two-for-one deal. ESPN.com

While there are no definitive declarations as to whether Ron Artest will or will not exercise his early termination option by the June 30 deadline, all indications continue to point to him staying in Sacramento for the 2008-09 season. In short, it sounds as if it's likely Artest won't opt out and will try his luck at free agency next summer. Sacramento Bee

Stevens: Artest wants to be a King. If he is the best player on the team, he would like to be paid as the best player. That's just his position. But he's thankful to the Maloofs because they gave him an opportunity to help turn his career around. He's appreciative and loyal to that fact. That's why him opting out at this point is not even an option. He wants to first go to the table and see if he can get a deal done. He would love to be in Sacramento. He loves the fans in Sacramento. He would love to be in Sacramento. Sacramento Bee

Stevens: How's it looking for next summer? There's maybe five or six teams (who could pay him what he's hoping to make), maybe two more different teams (compared to this summer) will be able to pay him. But again, you have to ask yourselves what direction the teams are trying to go in too. Just like Sacramento - what direction are they trying to go in? Sacramento Bee

Stevens: In all fairness, Ron doesn't want to go nowhere. He's happy that he's in Sacramento, and he's hopeful that an agreement can be made (to stay) because he would like to be in Sacramento. Sacramento Bee

Still, without a new contract Woodson becomes a free agent in two weeks, one of many the Hawks will have to deal with in the coming weeks. Restricted free agents Josh Smith and Josh Childress could be free to explore their options July 1. Atlanta Journal COnstitution

The market for T.J. Ford is heating up. Though neither Toronto president/general manager Bryan Colangelo or anybody else would go into details about the subject yesterday after six prospects were put through the paces ahead of the upcoming NBA draft, it was clear that the club has received genuine interest from a handful of teams about the diminutive point guard. Colangelo rubbed shoulders with other general manger's at last week's draft camp in Orlando and it's likely the names of both Ford and restricted free agent Jose Calderon came up. Colangelo did reiterate that Calderon would be hard to pry loose as it seems there is significant interest around the league in both players. Toronto Sun

The Pistons: "The only player that's untouchable is (guard) Rodney Stuckey," Blakely said to Bill Simonson on "The Huge Show" on Tuesday. "Without question. He is the only player on this team, I believe, that Joe would not trade. "One, because of his talent. And two, when you look at his salary, you're not going to find a player with a comparable skill level making as little as the 15th pick in last year's draft." Booth Newspapers
 
miamin2 wrote:
If that trade happens 4 d-wade n the #2 pick 4 the bulls #1 picks the bulls could be the best team in the east
The Heat already said they have no interest in trading him




That's what they said about Shaq too...
 
Originally Posted by DOdADaMnTh1nG

Look for the Golden State Warriors to pursue Milwaukee Bucks forward Yi Jianlian strongly in the coming weeks. During last year's draft, the Warriors agreed to trade Jason Richardson to the Charlotte Bobcats for the No. 8 pick, with the hope that Yi would fall to the Bobcats at that spot.

The team was shocked that the Bucks, for whom Yi refused to work out, took him at No. 6. The Bobcats took Brandan Wright and traded him to Golden State. While Wright played well for the Warriors toward the end of the season, they still covet Yi, according to sources.

If the Warriors were to offer Wright and the No. 14 pick for Yi, that might be too much for the Bucks to pass on. The team is in rebuilding mode and might be ready to accept a two-for-one deal.

-ESPN.COM

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This story is wayyyy off. We were thinking about Yi during last year's draft but we didn't trade J-Rich to get Yi. We traded J-Rich and got BrandanWright originally as part of a master plan to eventually land Garnett but that
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fell through.Charlotte was supposed to draft Al Thornton instead but apparently they didn't get the memo fast enough and chose Wright instead. Either way, we cleared upcap space and got an athletic forward for the future. Mullin really likes Wright and is excited that he's here. Hell, the whole bay area is excited thatWright's here. Now why on earth would we trade Wright AND the number 14th pick over to Milwaukee for Yi? It doesn't make sense.
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ESPN and what they think.
 
If the Indiana Pacers want to part ways with Jermaine O'Neal, they'll have to trade him. O'Neal's representatives recently informed the Pacers he will not opt out of the final two years of his contract. O'Neal had until June 30 to decide whether to become an unrestricted free agent. The Pacers weren't surprised. President Larry Bird said in February he didn't expect O'Neal to opt out because he would be leaving behind $44 million on the final two years of his contract. Indianapolis Star


That doesn't guarantee O'Neal will return. The Pacers likely will look to trade him. Indianapolis Star


If Jermaine O'Neal really wanted to get out of Indiana, his best choice is opting out. Jermaine O'Neal is a player who is injury prone and comes at aHUGE price tag. Maybe there are teams out there willing to absorb his contract but it doesn't seem likely... and I haven't heard of any. I believeJermaine is owed about $20 mil this season if I'm not mistaken. It's going to be hard to move that contract of his. Plus it's not like renting aplayer for a year and then now you have cleared cap room to make other decisions, he's got 2 years left on his deal.


With that said, Al + filler for Jermaine O'Neal...

... wait, do I even want that
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? This trade proposal has become cliche with Warrior fans
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