First of all, you don't know that you're talking about.Originally Posted by Cronicmolemolereturns
wawa- I'm tired of your holier than thou attitude when it comes to fitness... Tom Platz was in this eraarguably the greatest quads of all time..so shutup. no legs
Pull ups/Assisted Pull ups. Pull downs don't compare to pull ups
This.
Originally Posted by pookieman
Anyone trying to build leg and upper body strength real quickly...start doing power cleans and hang cleans.
Your strength will go OUT THE ROOF in no time once you develop the proper technique....
It's called a full clean...I alternate between power cleans and full cleans Tuesday/Friday. Full cleans are a $@%*$....but still the best overall exercise out there
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
First of all, you don't know that you're talking about.Originally Posted by Cronicmolemolereturns
wawa- I'm tired of your holier than thou attitude when it comes to fitness... Tom Platz was in this eraarguably the greatest quads of all time..so shutup. no legs
You're comparing apples to oranges.
- Nubret was tall. About 6'1". Platz was short; about 5'7".
- During Nubret's peak, "enhancers" were not at their peak or specialized for BB'ing. The BB'ers were basically using what was developed for Oly lifters. Mainly Deca and a few other oral AAS in their early development stages by the Soviets/ East Germans. Platz competed a decade later (comparing peak to peak) and ":enhancers" were much more advanced in the 80's than they were in the 70's.
- Platz was known for his legs. He was gifted with great genetics for legs. Nubret wasn't. Nothing about Platz's legs is normal and if a BB doesn't have that that doesn't mean "no legs".
I might come off as holier than thou to people who don't know !*%@ while pretending to know.
I think he means a high pull, but i could of just read it wrong.
How many times does the link need to be posted? Read and proceed. A "GTC" stack is a waste of time.
Mez, I do my Cleans on my Chest and Shoulder days. Start light if you haven't done them before - make sure your technique is solid before you add weight.Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
I feel like power cleans would start to kill my already fragile knees
I'm trying to gain some damn leg mass, but at the same time doing exercises to avoid too much pressure on my knees (i.e. not doing leg curls, squats the proper form, etc). I normally work out different areas of my body once a week, is 2x a week for legs a good start (or just one day a week with some running on the off days)? I am a super-set kind of person so I would mix in the legs with a back day.
Just could use some input.
PS: Just started messing with dead lifts recently on "back" days (never bothered to do them), so far I'm up to 200+ and I know I could do m ore eventually, just getting the form and technique right. On what days should I begin implementing the power cleans/hang cleans?
Cheers pookie!
My squat sucks dude since I haven't ever done them consistently after my knee surgery a few years back, my upper body strength is pretty solid (bench 275 max, arms/back and shoulders are solid, etc), just want my leg strength to be on the same page eventually. I shouldn't be benching more than I can squat at this pointOriginally Posted by pookieman
Mez, I do my Cleans on my Chest and Shoulder days. Start light if you haven't done them before - make sure your technique is solid before you add weight.Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
I feel like power cleans would start to kill my already fragile knees
I'm trying to gain some damn leg mass, but at the same time doing exercises to avoid too much pressure on my knees (i.e. not doing leg curls, squats the proper form, etc). I normally work out different areas of my body once a week, is 2x a week for legs a good start (or just one day a week with some running on the off days)? I am a super-set kind of person so I would mix in the legs with a back day.
Just could use some input.
PS: Just started messing with dead lifts recently on "back" days (never bothered to do them), so far I'm up to 200+ and I know I could do m ore eventually, just getting the form and technique right. On what days should I begin implementing the power cleans/hang cleans?
As for your legs....regular deadlifts suck imho. I just started training for football - I haven't squated since 2004 and even then I used to struggle to even hit 275. I just started again, and was using a machine for a while to build up strength in my quads, then I moved to squats on a free rack. Started @275 for 10 reps, 4 weeks later (today) I did 3 sets of 365, 6 reps. Not huge weight to some, but for me it is. I got 2 screws in my knee, chronic tendonitis an MCL issues. So basically I'm saying ease yourself into it and the strength will come. I also do leg press and with heavy weights to supplement my squats as well as leg extensions. If you are afraid of injuring your knees, buy a roll on knee wrap (specifically for power lifting/squating) It'll ease your mind and add the support your knees might need.
Good luck
Do powerlifting shoes make a big difference? I've seriously been considering purchasing some and was wondering if they were worth it, or if anyone else has purchased them and could give a review. They're pretty pricey, but I've also heard that they help a lot with squats, deads, cleans, etc.Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
My squat sucks dude since I haven't ever done them consistently after my knee surgery a few years back, my upper body strength is pretty solid (bench 275 max, arms/back and shoulders are solid, etc), just want my leg strength to be on the same page eventually. I shouldn't be benching more than I can squat at this pointOriginally Posted by pookieman
Mez, I do my Cleans on my Chest and Shoulder days. Start light if you haven't done them before - make sure your technique is solid before you add weight.Originally Posted by Mez 0ne
I feel like power cleans would start to kill my already fragile knees
I'm trying to gain some damn leg mass, but at the same time doing exercises to avoid too much pressure on my knees (i.e. not doing leg curls, squats the proper form, etc). I normally work out different areas of my body once a week, is 2x a week for legs a good start (or just one day a week with some running on the off days)? I am a super-set kind of person so I would mix in the legs with a back day.
Just could use some input.
PS: Just started messing with dead lifts recently on "back" days (never bothered to do them), so far I'm up to 200+ and I know I could do m ore eventually, just getting the form and technique right. On what days should I begin implementing the power cleans/hang cleans?
As for your legs....regular deadlifts suck imho. I just started training for football - I haven't squated since 2004 and even then I used to struggle to even hit 275. I just started again, and was using a machine for a while to build up strength in my quads, then I moved to squats on a free rack. Started @275 for 10 reps, 4 weeks later (today) I did 3 sets of 365, 6 reps. Not huge weight to some, but for me it is. I got 2 screws in my knee, chronic tendonitis an MCL issues. So basically I'm saying ease yourself into it and the strength will come. I also do leg press and with heavy weights to supplement my squats as well as leg extensions. If you are afraid of injuring your knees, buy a roll on knee wrap (specifically for power lifting/squating) It'll ease your mind and add the support your knees might need.
Good luck
Today I will mess with dead lifts since I am working out my back, and some squats for legs (and other random leg exercises since I alternate both to super set), and tomorrow I'll mess with chest and cleans for the first time to see how it goes.
I really need some shoes for power lifting though, I know they make a ton of difference,
