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It's genetics more than anything when it comes to shape so everyone should stop.
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Originally Posted by wawaweewa
It's genetics more than anything when it comes to shape so everyone should stop.
I mentioned that earlier in this thread, which is why I always say to hit chest at every angle, and go heavy heavy heavy.
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if you're working chest you're working chest, you have a pec major on each side that's going to be the the muscle you're attempting to utilize the most, doing incline vs decline will bring in different accessory muscles but as far as one of them getting you more chest mass? no. Come on you guys are smarter than that, just like you can't spot weight reduce, it's equally as hard to spot fiber recruit within the same muscle that is all innervated by the same nerve!
That's like when people are doing leg raises on the tricep dip thing thinking they are working their abs. In reality, you are getting an isometric contraction of your abdominals to hold you stable, but you are flexing your hip, and what muscle flexes your hip? ilipsoas, NOT abdominals (which flex the spine, a motion that does not occur with that exerise). eccentric > concentric > isometric in terms of energy requirement for a muscle
That's like when people are doing leg raises on the tricep dip thing thinking they are working their abs. In reality, you are getting an isometric contraction of your abdominals to hold you stable, but you are flexing your hip, and what muscle flexes your hip? ilipsoas, NOT abdominals (which flex the spine, a motion that does not occur with that exerise). eccentric > concentric > isometric in terms of energy requirement for a muscle
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Originally Posted by ShadyKay NT
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
It's genetics more than anything when it comes to shape so everyone should stop.
I mentioned that earlier in this thread, which is why I always say to hit chest at every angle, and go heavy heavy heavy.
Lol cmon. So you trying to tell me that shaping is impossible .... lol. I guess bodybuilders just had great genetics for EVERY body part. Cmon. Once you build mass (bulk) you can cut/Shape.
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Originally Posted by bwood056
Originally Posted by ShadyKay NT
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
It's genetics more than anything when it comes to shape so everyone should stop.
I mentioned that earlier in this thread, which is why I always say to hit chest at every angle, and go heavy heavy heavy.
Lol cmon. So you trying to tell me that shaping is impossible .... lol. I guess bodybuilders just had great genetics for EVERY body part. Cmon. Once you build mass (bulk) you can cut/Shape.
There's no such thing as muscle shaping.
If you've seen a variety of pro BB'ers up close you'd def see the diff in shapes. The part about the "genetics for everybody part" doesn't hold for the vast majority of BB'ers. Off of AAS/HGH/Insulin they'd be nothing special at all when it comes to physique. Size covers up a lot of imperfections when it comes to the human eye/ Especially from the amateur perspective. Some are very genetically gifted and it shows but many fall within 2 standard deviations just like on any bell curve. Most pro's have big weaknesses. That's why they're not on top.
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Lets keep the broscience to a minimum please brahs....
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I think it's A LOT of genetics... I'mma go cop some chest implants SRSOriginally Posted by wawaweewa
I lol'ed every time I read th word ****. Well played/
The single greatest factor is genetics imo. I'm about 5'7", 190 lbs (so it's not an overall lack of mass), I can flat BB 280 x 5 , incline is about 260 x 5 and I do not have a developed chest at all. It may be because my entire chest routine consists of 5x5 or 7x 3 once a week. Even when I had a higher volume chest routine, it still wasn't that developed. I see a lot of people chasing that perfect chest but it's futile. It's mostly genetics as it pertains to your chest shape.
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The only way to gain in (most lifts) specifically bench and chest development is to have a spotter.... too many %%!$*+@+ at my gym so I've given up. On the rare occasion I see a friend, I'll have him spot me
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Tryna lose more weight and gain muscles, got myself a meal plan...what you guys think? Along with the diet, im gonna be inthe gym 3 times a week, 20 min. cardio--20 min. weight lifting.
Meal1 (breakfast) 3eggs, I cup broccoli, half cup green peppers, 1cup green tea
Meal2 (snack) 1apple, half cup peanuts, half cup blueberries 1cup green tea
Meal3 (lunch) 6ounces chicken breast, 1cup broccoli, half cup green peppers, 2cups salad 1cup green tea
Meal4 (snack) 20 almonds, 1apple 1cup green tea
Meal5 (dinner) 6ounce steak, 1cup asparagus, half avocado 1cup green tea
Meal6 (bedtime snack) 1apple, 1tablespoon peanutbutter
Meal1 (breakfast) 3eggs, I cup broccoli, half cup green peppers, 1cup green tea
Meal2 (snack) 1apple, half cup peanuts, half cup blueberries 1cup green tea
Meal3 (lunch) 6ounces chicken breast, 1cup broccoli, half cup green peppers, 2cups salad 1cup green tea
Meal4 (snack) 20 almonds, 1apple 1cup green tea
Meal5 (dinner) 6ounce steak, 1cup asparagus, half avocado 1cup green tea
Meal6 (bedtime snack) 1apple, 1tablespoon peanutbutter
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u prob have to slim down to 180Originally Posted by ElCatfisho
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in theory isnt building muscle, shaping ? by putting muscle mass on your body, which ever muscle it is. it is taking on some type of "shape".
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Anyone trying to build leg and upper body strength real quickly...start doing power cleans and hang cleans.
Your strength will go OUT THE ROOF in no time once you develop the proper technique....
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If you're tryna cut those last 10 pounds or tryna get rid of that stubborn love handle fat, I seriously suggest doing the EC stack.
I'm on Week 2 and I've seen a very noticeable difference in my love handle and stomah area where I couldn't a couple weeks ago.
I'm on Week 2 and I've seen a very noticeable difference in my love handle and stomah area where I couldn't a couple weeks ago.
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idk why that pic was necessary but I agree with doing clean's for strength...I just went over that chapter in rippetoes book yesterday...proper form is a DEFINITE must.
with the guy who asked about love handles I would say shed the pounds from cardio and to build muscle in that area do side bends and side planks.
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Been stalking this thread for the past 50 or so pages on and off and definitely some info that I have used.....except the one posted above
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Na don't try to pull that.
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Cosign, I'm about two weeks in myself and lost 5 pounds in like the 1st week (I'm waiting until Saturday to weigh myself again)
...but this stuff really takes away that desire to eat, like I have to force myself to get my minimum 3 meals a day.
Overall it's going well, I can't wait to see my results after the full six weeks.
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RIP Serge Nubret. IMO the most perfect body I've ever seen (on a male)
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Originally Posted by wawaweewa
Na don't try to pull that.You're putting on lean mass.
Why not? Lol. Is it not technically correct?
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Went to the doctor on Monday for a check-up.
289 lb.
5'8
THIS HAS TO CHANGE.
Bad enough I got a physical for school tomorrow and I haven't worked out in forever so I'm gonna bomb that
I stopped drinking soda, but I picked up Diet Dr.Pepper in its place, which isn't a good substitute, the taste of it disgusts me, so I've been drinking water instead.
I'm gonna stop eating out, I got an appointment with a nutritionist in the coming months.
What else do I need to do?
289 lb.
5'8
THIS HAS TO CHANGE.
Bad enough I got a physical for school tomorrow and I haven't worked out in forever so I'm gonna bomb that
I stopped drinking soda, but I picked up Diet Dr.Pepper in its place, which isn't a good substitute, the taste of it disgusts me, so I've been drinking water instead.
I'm gonna stop eating out, I got an appointment with a nutritionist in the coming months.
What else do I need to do?
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Pookie, I see you.Originally Posted by pookieman
Anyone trying to build leg and upper body strength real quickly...start doing power cleans and hang cleans.
Your strength will go OUT THE ROOF in no time once you develop the proper technique....
Seeing platforms and bumpers always brightens the day.
Is that 140 kilos on the bar? Very nice.
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