STAY/GET BACK IN SHAPE VOL 3.0 -- A New Niketalk = A New Thread

[mister friendly]

Yeah I feel like theres a no real benefit to squatting like this

Vs something like this

Especially when are lifting heavy weight because the majority of the time to do heavy weight theres going to be some type of movement on the way up

When you go down lower its harder to control on the way up, which the doctor was warning against, he said he gets countless patients who tweak their knees on the movement up

 

[jjs07]

^The first 3 pics look like good squat form. THe last pic, to me, isn't enough depth. I wouldn't count that as a rep.

 

[mister friendly]

^The first 3 pics look like good squat form. THe last pic, to me, isn't enough depth. I wouldn't count that as a rep.

Yeah I don't think the last one would be counting on a rep at any major program

The last pic may be appropriate for some lifters though depending on their background

I think more programs demand their athletes to squat like the first 2 pics which I don't think is necessary

And to BigBoss Theres a difference between messing with a dude about shirtless pics and squat technique.....whats the purpose of joking around about squat technique? Whats funny about that?

 

[everysingletime]

A medical degree doesn't guarantee you know anything about squatting

 

[mister friendly]

A medical degree doesn't guarantee you know anything about squatting

You're right

And just because you have squatted doesn't guarantee you know anything about squatting

 

[mgrand15]

You're right

And just because you have squatted doesn't guarantee you know anything about squatting

There's plenty of science that backs up below parallel squatting and you're acting like it's broscience. This ONE doctor really convinced you like that? It's fine to disagree but you're taking shots at anyone that doesn't agree - with no proof or research or articles.

 

[bigboss]

And to BigBoss Theres a difference between messing with a dude about shirtless pics and squat technique.....whats the purpose of joking around about squat technique? Whats funny about that?

Nothings funny about it.

Whats funny is you come in and say some crazy **** like I don't feel like Im using my legs when squatting then try to say going to low is bad for you.

And you try to say you didn't know this thread existed......lol

Its whatever listen to your doc, do what you want and feel is best for you but don't try to tell people that squatting too low is bad.

There's plenty of science that backs up below parallel squatting and you're acting like it's broscience. This ONE doctor really convinced you like that?

It's fine to disagree but you're taking shots at anyone that doesn't agree - with no proof or research or articles.

Basically this.

 

[durden7]

The reason people tweak their knees on the way up isnt because they squatted to full depth with too much eright, its because their hip strength/control isnt good enough.

Squatting to full depth is no more dangerous than parallel... If all the other aspects of squatting are correct.

 

[bigboss]

You're right

And just because you have squatted doesn't guarantee you know anything about squatting

Comments like that make me think your trolling.

 

[bigboss]

The reason people tweak their knees on the way up isnt because they squatted to full depth with too much eright, its because their hip strength/control isnt good enough.

Squatting to full depth is no more dangerous than parallel... If all the other aspects of squatting are correct.

For me personally it would be harder to half squat because I use a good bit of stretch reflex out of the hole.

 

[diabolicaldeezy]

Yes Please..

 

[everysingletime]

You're right


And just because you have squatted doesn't guarantee you know anything about squatting

Comments like that make me think your trolling.

Yea pretty much

 

[stuntman mike]

guess that's where the saying "you don't know squat" comes from ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[mister friendly]

Again I'm dropping information you can take it or leave it

I offered suggestions based on experiences and then I got came out asking me to name the doctor etc etc which I did

And that comment is no more of a troll comment than somebody saying just because you are a doctor that specializes in this, that you know what you are talking about

Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

You can keep wrapping your knees and getting tingles

And yes I didn't know this thread existed til recently, the previous threads like this were just a bunch of 20 years old sharing broscience or just dudes getting into working out, so excuse ME if the "STAY/GET BACK IN SHAPE VOL 3.0" thread title didn't peak my interest

 

[hyper cutter]

Nike Heeton>

 

[everysingletime]

Again I'm dropping information you can take it or leave it

I offered suggestions based on experiences and then I got came out asking me to name the doctor etc etc which I did

And that comment is no more of a troll comment than somebody saying just because you are a doctor that specializes in this, that you know what you are talking about

Do you realize how dumb that sounds?

You can keep wrapping your knees and getting tingles

And yes I didn't know this thread existed til recently, the previous threads like this were just a bunch of 20 years old sharing broscience or just dudes getting into working out, so excuse ME if the "STAY/GET BACK IN SHAPE VOL 3.0" thread title didn't peak my interest

Why do you sound hurt that no one is listening. You said take it or leave it, well people are leaving it.

No need to low key insult anyone

 

[mister friendly]

I don't how to could infer that I was hurt or that I'm insulting anyone

 

[jewbacca]

I don't how to could infer that I was hurt or that I'm insulting anyone

You mad your doctor doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[mister friendly]

Ok yep you hit it out of the park slugger

The cliche Cam'ron pic illustrates my emotions about this subject

Just continue to do what you are doing just remember your body may change over time and I'll listen to licensed professionals

Anyways lets not derail with the thread with this stuff, either you believe or you don't

 

[bigboss]

Guys can we all just be friendly

 

[everysingletime]

Guys can we all just be friendly

I'm so friendly that you can call me mister friendly

Bay da bing

*rim shot

*no one laughs*

*walks away sadly

 

[ooiron manoo]

Just continue to do what you are doing just remember your body may change over time and I'll listen to licensed professionals

Doctor's give advice, sometimes there is science mixed in with personal opinion with a dash of experience.

There are licensed professionals that say your doctor is wrong.

You do sound upset though, and telling people to not break parallel is TERRIBLE advice.

Sadly, the majority of gym goers have NEVER had any type of professional training in their lives and rely on misleading information. It's the blind leading the blind.

If you've never been coached, get some training. I'm not talking about the personal trainer at LA Fitness, no offense to them, however join a local Oly or Barbell Club. You'll probably pay a couple hundred bucks for 90 days of training but the knowledge you'll get is priceless.

Also, be receptive to feedback, I've trained so many people with **** form and big ego's.

 

[miniojw]

Well....

Today is leg day for me. I plan on keeping it light. Pause back (225lbs) and front squat (150ish lbs), Good mornings, DB RDL (might superset), and my ab rountine. Might add back extenstion if I feel up to it.

 

[based mod]

Lemme post some "broscience"

Taping of knees:

The Effect of Patellar Taping on Squat Depth and the Perception of Pain in People with Anterior Knee Pain

Patellar taping is a treatment adjunct commonly used in the management of anterior knee pain. The aim of this cross sectional study was to investigate the effects of medial glide patellar taping on sagittal plane lower-limb joint kinematics and knee pain during a unilateral squat in a symptomatic population complaining of anterior knee pain. Ten participants with a history of unilateral or bilateral anterior knee pain were included in the study. Subjects were required to squat on the symptomatic leg under three conditions: placebo tape, patellar tape and no tape. Kinematic data was recorded using the CODA mpx64 motion analysis system and subjects’ pain was assessed using the Numerical Rating Scale. Patellar taping resulted in a significantly greater single-legged squat depth compared to placebo tape (p=0.00 and no tape (p=0.001) and a statistically significant reduction in pain during a squat compared to placebo tape (p=0.001) or no tape (p=0.001). Significant differences were not identified for maximum knee flexion in the patella taping compared to the no tape condition. This study may have significant clinical implications as participants reported less pain and alterations in sagittal plane movement following the application of patellar tape.

TL;DR: Use tape to reduce pain



Knees past toes?

Effect of Knee Position on Hip and Knee Torques During the Barbell Squat.
FRY, ANDREW C.; Smith, J. Chadwick; SCHILLING, BRIAN K.

Some recommendations suggest keeping the shank as vertical as possible during the barbell squat, thus keeping the knees from moving past the toes. This study examined joint kinetics occurring when forward displacement of the knees is restricted vs. when such movement is not restricted. Seven weight-trained men (mean +/- SD; age = 27.9 +/- 5.2 years) were videotaped while performing 2 variations of parallel barbell squats (barbell load = body weight). Either the knees were permitted to move anteriorly past the toes (unrestricted) or a wooden barrier prevented the knees from moving anteriorly past the toes (restricted). Differences resulted between static knee and hip torques for both types of squat as well as when both squat variations were compared with each other (p

 

[rook]

Man I just squat low enough until i feel it in my quads..simple