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Well even the title "performance enhancing" is a bit arbitrary in a sense. By definition coffee is performance enhancing. You read that in hear all the time. Of course imo before I get mauled over my response
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15 in 5 days ohh no that's impossible!!!!So I have been on vacation the last week, gained 15lbs in 5 days! Should I go on like a 7 day carb depletion "diet" then back to eating normal, healthy (obviously was not doing so while on vacation nor any training)? If it's mostly glycogen weight, figured or hoped I could lose it as fast as I put it on.
Honestly this these types of debates are just circular arguments based largely on opinions w/ no real resolution.
IMO you cease to be natural when you choose to use a substance (whether illegal or not and whether injected or taken orally) to alter your hormones in an effort to raise a genetic ceiling of growth.
IMO taking a creatine use does not fit this bill.
I think another good topic of discussion would be: How long does an athlete need to be off PEDs before you deem them "natural" , if ever?
4 months?
What you think bros. I lost 40lbs in about 4 months as well, but I aint close to looking like this guy.
Well even the title "performance enhancing" is a bit arbitrary in a sense. By definition coffee is performance enhancing. You read that in hear all the time. Of course imo before I get mauled over my response
friend of mine on TRT said it was godlike just starting out at 200mg of cyp/ week. i think he's at 100mg/week now and he said it's fantastic. must be crazy at 500mg. + other stuff.If you do a cycle of test, you wont want to come off
people stay hating...................
Everyone has a six pack, you just have to get to it.
4 month strict diet can mostly certainly get you there.
listen, again, if you haven't done it don't judge a man that has.
When you stay committed to a 4 month diet and don't get results then come in here and start sprinkling your salt
that transformation did not happen in 4 months, if it did he def had some "help"
lol people acting like those are 6 rocksThat transformation looks possible to me, those abs look flabby so very possible to me
that transformation did not happen in 4 months, if it did he def had some "help"
geezus Christ, you can't gain 40lbs without "help"
you can't lose 40lbs without "help"
smh.
but cleaning up the diet def wasn't the cause of his weight lose............................
"weight" is different, when you are overweight, you can lose weight rather quickly but actual fat doesnt just melt off your body easily
if dude lost all that fat and gained muscle in 4 months naturally then props to him
9 a.m. where I live right now. did my typical morning walk.I just read the last pages and did nothing but laugh. Who worked out today? I sprinted hills and reminded myself how out of shape I am.
first workout as a married man todayI just read the last pages and did nothing but laugh. Who worked out today?
Always. Posting a lot more on my Instagram, @juwhitehead8 if y'all wanna follow and check it out.I just read the last pages and did nothing but laugh. Who worked out today? I sprinted hills and reminded myself how out of shape I am.
What you posted today looked pretty cool Ju, you do stuff like that often?
Always. Posting a lot more on my Instagram, @juwhitehead8 if y'all wanna follow and check it out.
I guess my Sgt's Wife bought him Focus T25, he hasn't even opened the box yet...
He asked if I wanted it. Should I take it? Anybody uses it? How is it?
Yea I do a lot of stuff like that before or after my workouts. Get a lot of funny looks and questions lolWhat you posted today looked pretty cool Ju, you do stuff like that often?
I think most of you base your opinion on natural by how a person looks or performs.
But then we have exhibit A. who has never touched AAS (I know this for a fact)
And then we have this guy. Who juices on a regular basis (also fact)
I just don't understand how you guys can say if a person is "natural" or not by the way they look. Unless it ******* obvious like Pro BBers.
Theres dudes in the slums of Africa who eat oats and rice on a daily with better physiques that 99% of the people in this thread so I don't get why everyone with a six pack and weighs over XXXlbs depending on their height has to be on steroids. Just because your genetics don't allow you to put on 20lbs of muscle doesn't mean its the same way for everyone else. Genetics is king. Even more important than steroids. Point proven in the pictures above
Lol I bet. People always ask me why I block the mirror with boxes when I squat.Yea I do a lot of stuff like that before or after my workouts. Get a lot of funny looks and questions lol