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[deusavertat]

I had internal derangement that went away as soon as I started squatting.

Everyone ITT except for you seems to understand the value of eating food to fuel athletic performance.

All that PT exercise/elliptical/light jogging crap they had me doing did next to nothing, but SL 5x5, as prescribed by Dr. Mehdi, brought me out of the darkness of scrawniness and injury and into the brolic light of the gym gawds.

Eating food did in fact magically allow me to lift progressively heavier weights and grow.

But let you tell it.

You're obviously content with being smaller and weaker, doing jiu-jitsu, and not getting fat, and that's cool if that's your goal, but let's not pretend that the supposed benefits of fasting are greater than those of eating for the majority of folks.

Lol ill be sure to recommend more heavy squatting to patients with osteochondral lesions and meniscal tears.

 

[wayniac211]

Keep at it little buddy.

I'm about to touch hundreds in the next week or so.

But fr, I seriously hate DBs.

haven't smacked hunnids in 10 yrs+. easy sauce when i was 285. 220 now but knowing what i'm capable of gives a boost

 

[Tank Top Master]

Lol ill be sure to recommend more heavy squatting to patients with osteochondral lesions and meniscal tears.

Like I said before, I had a lateral meniscus tear.

I started squatting, got a couple of shots and now I'm the Tank Top Master who deadlifts more than your entire total and can eat whatever he wants and still not get fat, while you're just a runt with an eating disorder that doesn't eat, does too much cardio, lifts

weights for nonsensical reps, and rolls around on the floor with other men.


Send your patients to me so I can point them in the direction of actual help. I even accept Medicare.

This ain't the hill your emaciated *** wants to die on, folk.

 

[ahat]

you're just a runt with an eating disorder that doesn't eat, does too much cardio, lifts

weights for nonsensical reps, and rolls around on the floor with other men.

 

[Tank Top Master]

haven't smacked hunnids in 10 yrs+. easy sauce when i was 285. 220 now but knowing what i'm capable of gives a boost

You know I was just playing but once you start moving them big DBs and getting into position unassisted, the Weaks hit the

and the Biddies hit the

.


Imma leave dumbbells on the menu.

 

[storm2006]

s-blaze how could I forget! The cookies and Greek sandwich were a crucial chapter in the turn. He’s a wild boy but if he is truly getting results doing what he’s doing then imma let him cook

 

[deusavertat]

Like I said before, I had a lateral meniscus tear.

I started squatting, got a couple of shots and now I'm the Tank Top Master who deadlifts more than your entire total and can eat whatever he wants and still not get fat, while you're just a runt with an eating disorder that doesn't eat, does too much cardio, lifts

weights for nonsensical reps, and rolls around on the floor with other men.


Send your patients to me so I can point them in the direction of actual help. I even accept Medicare.

This ain't the hill your emaciated *** wants to die on, folk.

Yea im gonna go ahead and stick to evidence based medicine. I hope physical therapists arent out there telling people with torn ligaments to max squat.


Im 6ft4 215 lbs, hardly emaciated. Anyhow fast clock reset.

 

[tokes99]

You're obviously content with being smaller and weaker, doing jiu-jitsu, and not getting fat, and that's cool if that's your goal, but let's not pretend that the supposed benefits of fasting are greater than those of eating for the majority of folks.

i will say cuz hasn’t made a claim about his protocol being ‘optimal,’ ‘good,’ or even a ‘better’ approach to do anything…just an attachment to nebulous benefits that apparently are only possible by fasting…the irony is that for as much as bruv says he likes food & prioritizes cardio, & doesn’t want to be a fatty, actually gaining a bit more muscle would allow man the leeway to eat more & keep a good body composition, probably enable man to actually heal/recover better & faster, and do even more of the crazy cardio…

of course it’s cool tho, it’s lighthearted jokes we all have our different priorities in this thing & make peace w/the trade offs, so maybe that approach make sense for him…but there are obvious trade offs that conflict with putting on any additional muscle, recovery, performance, energy balance; but apparently my g knows something counter to accepted wisdom

I thought it started with the cookies & Greek sandwich

man stall me out…them joints all come on pita bread w/basically the same ingredients…

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Main thing for me is that food is good af. Fasting 3 days and eating ruffage the other 4 would subtract so much joy that the extra 1.5 years it adds to my lifespan wouldn't even be worth it

 

[Tank Top Master]

Yea im gonna go ahead and stick to evidence based medicine. I hope physical therapists arent out there telling people with torn ligaments to max squat.


Im 6ft4 215 lbs, hardly emaciated. Anyhow fast clock reset.

Nowhere in any of my posts did I say anything about a “max squat”.

You just made that up, but you prolly can’t think straight cause your brain is so carb depleted.

Also, I don’t take strength training advice from anyone that’s weaker than myself and we’re not getting anywhere productive in these exchanges so Imma put you on ignore, go hit legs then get some Chick or that Panda, word to Desiigner.

Goodbye.

 

[tokes99]

Main thing for me is that food is good af. Fasting 3 days and eating ruffage the other 4 would subtract so much joy that the extra 1.5 years it adds to my lifespan wouldn't even be worth it

the thing is too, is there aren’t any real human studies/trials that really substantiate much of things in the realm of calorie restriction, fasting, & longevity…it’s all mouse studies (mice aren’t humans, obviously) & educated theorizing from other specific use cases…BUT dude from his own admissions doesn’t appear to eating that clean, is doing hella cardio, and participating in a sport where injury/pain is expected to an extent, the stress of which might just negate the benefits of fasting altogether

fasting is cool, it can be done smartly & with consideration but it’s somewhat of a ridiculous conceit that one would maintain regularly prolonged fasting on top of long cardio, doing an injurious activity such grappling, and be expecting of progress or even good recovery or performance…

 

[DonRafa]

he lost me when he said he “bulked” for a week and made “gains”

 

[deusavertat]

Main thing for me is that food is good af. Fasting 3 days and eating ruffage the other 4 would subtract so much joy that the extra 1.5 years it adds to my lifespan wouldn't even be worth it

I take joy in cooking and eating a "breakfast" meal everyday. You can fast and find joy in food. You RACK DISCIPRINE!!!!!

 

[deusavertat]

Nowhere in any of my posts did I say anything about a “max squat”.

You just made that up, but you prolly can’t think straight cause your brain is so carb depleted.

Also, I don’t take strength training advice from anyone that’s weaker than myself and we’re not getting anywhere productive in these exchanges so Imma put you on ignore, go hit legs then get some Chick or that Panda, word to Desiigner.

Goodbye.

"Carb depleted" is sort of my goal.

The Implication of Physiological Ketosis on The Cognitive Brain: A Narrative Review

Optimal cognitive functions are necessary for activities of daily living and self-independence. Cognitive abilities are acquired during early childhood as part of progressive neurodevelopmental milestones; unfortunately, regressive changes can occur as ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I dont take strength training advice from meatheads either because out strength goals are different.

 

[deusavertat]

As I think about it, the thread turning on deus has been building up for a few weeks. It all started with the high rep workouts then the OD cardio then the fasting tipped the scales when it was all put together

People can just say they cant/ dont wanna do this and keep it moving.

 

[Tank Top Master]

he lost me when he said he “bulked” for a week and made “gains”

And you know his 1RM leg extension went up.

 

[storm2006]

Main thing for me is that food is good af. Fasting 3 days and eating ruffage the other 4 would subtract so much joy that the extra 1.5 years it adds to my lifespan wouldn't even be worth it

I can’t tell if is the sarcastic NBA Thread BIG LEEMELONE or if you are being authentic

But in reference to your post and the point one below…

the irony is that for as much as bruv says he likes food & prioritizes cardio, & doesn’t want to be a fatty, actually gaining a bit more muscle would allow man the leeway to eat more & keep a good body composition, probably enable man to actually heal/recover better & faster, and do even more of the crazy cardio…

THIS! I really like food too and don’t want to be a fatty. I am not trying to bulk but gaining muscle has literally been the impetus behind me doing the bolded

Quite honestly, I can’t fathom a world where you are doing 2.5 hours of cardio + weight lifting + 20-24 hour fasts (working out fasted too) and not losing weight tbh. Since I started IF along with less cardio + heavier weights I have lost weight week-over-week for about 9 weeks straight.

And that is on ~16 hour fasts, only 45-55 mins of varying HIT/Core from Nike Training Club 6x/week and using DBs at home or corporate gym.

He’s lb for lb doing AT LEAST 1.5X more pure cardio than me (recover time behind exercises/sets, stretching, core, etc) is included in that 45-55 minutes. His fasts are longer too but I guess he’s not eating nearly as “clean” or consuming as much protein doe.

I know every individual’s body is different but from my personal experience just doesn’t seem to add up and that is without even delving into the anatomy or science.

 

[deusavertat]

I should say when I used the word bulk all it means is im doing slightly less cardio and lifting a little more. I dont know what it means in the meathead world.

 

[storm2006]

"Carb depleted" is sort of my goal.

The Implication of Physiological Ketosis on The Cognitive Brain: A Narrative Review

Optimal cognitive functions are necessary for activities of daily living and self-independence. Cognitive abilities are acquired during early childhood as part of progressive neurodevelopmental milestones; unfortunately, regressive changes can occur as ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I dont take strength training advice from meatheads either because out strength goals are different.

I should say when I used the word bulk all it means is im doing slightly less cardio and lifting a little more. I dont know what it means in the meathead world.

Damn, y’all got my man using slurs out here today

 

[Beruseruku Desu]

cava > chipotle now for the best bodybuilding meal

 

[tokes99]

Quite honestly, I can’t fathom a world where you are doing 2.5 hours of cardio + weight lifting + 20-24 hour fasts (working out fasted too) and not losing weight tbh. Since I started IF along with less cardio + heavier weights I have lost weight week-over-week for about 9 weeks straight.


I know every individual’s body is different but from my personal experience just doesn’t seem to add up and that is without even delving into the anatomy or science.

right…it just sounds like bad math! doing all that activity is only keeping man at baseline, so that calls into question the whole proposition…

I should say when I used the word bulk all it means is im doing slightly less cardio and lifting a little more. I dont know what it means in the meathead world.

but why tho? what is even the point, especially as you say you aren’t doing ‘heavy’ reps but more cardio mimicking high rep sets? you claim you muscle is not even a priority??

and you are either being disingenuous or facetious…to bulk is universally understood as getting bigger, maybe specifically muscle wise (somehow becoming more muscular) for some or just body composition wise in general…either way to do so requires one to eat in a manner that would allow it in the general sense & in the specific case where it’s understood as referring to muscularity one would have to train in way that would facilitate it…and again by your descriptions you aren’t really doing either

you stay linking/talking about thing related to ketogenesis/ketosis but given what you have said about your own dietary habits there’s like 0% chance you would be in ketosis and even if you did routinely eating things like waffles, your mediterranean sandwiches (), vegan cookies would immediately switch the body’s fuel sourcing thus negating the proposed benefit(s)

 

[Tank Top Master]

Damn, y’all got my man using slurs out here today

Bet he won't try that in a small gym.

 

[datznasty]

cava > chipotle now for the best bodybuilding meal

I go to Golden Corral and get steak (its sirloin) and prime rib to go, also the bourbon chicken or pulled pork has great macros and its like $7 a lb so I just fill up containers with meat

 

[deusavertat]

right…it just sounds like bad math! doing all that activity is only keeping man at baseline, so that calls into question the whole proposition…



but why tho? what is even the point, especially as you say you aren’t doing ‘heavy’ reps but more cardio mimicking high rep sets? you claim you muscle is not even a priority??

and you are either being disingenuous or facetious…to bulk is universally understood as getting bigger, maybe specifically muscle wise (somehow becoming more muscular) for some or just body composition wise in general…either way to do so requires one to eat in a manner that would allow it in the general sense & in the specific case where it’s understood as referring to muscularity one would have to train in way that would facilitate it…and again by your descriptions you aren’t really doing either

you stay linking/talking about thing related to ketogenesis/ketosis but given what you have said about your own dietary habits there’s like 0% chance you would be in ketosis and even if you did routinely eating things like waffles, your mediterranean sandwiches (), vegan cookies would immediately switch the body’s fuel sourcing thus negating the proposed benefit(s)

I never said I routinely eat waffles you made that assumption.

Again you would have to look at the basic sciences of how this works. Its about metabolic remodeling at a cellular and even genetic level of how food will be utilized in parts of your body. Youre not supposed to perpetually be in ketosis, thats dangerous.


Start with the basic sciences of how this works, it should clear things up. I think laymen assume Im tryna be smelling like Im in ketoacidosis 24/7.

 

[deusavertat]

Theres a lot of basic science research that clears things up. I think some of you are oversimplifying it.

Ketogenic Diet Acts on Body Remodeling and MicroRNAs Expression Profile - PubMed

The miRs herein identified under KD might be a useful tool to monitor low carbohydrate nutritional regimens which reflect indirectly the regulatory biochemical mechanisms and cell signaling that orchestrate metabolic and signaling pathways.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov