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I just going to go ahead and say I'm the biggest dude in this thread behind IICE.
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Originally Posted by DJprestige21
I just going to go ahead and say I'm the biggest dude in this thread behind IICE.
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
Elaborate, dude.Originally Posted by wj4
The symptoms of overtraining are easy to spot so it shouldn't be a problem.
i've ran two havoc cycles during this past year...I would attribute 30-40% to havoc and the rest to natural gains.
I'm really contemplating running some test-e at 400mg/w for 10 week cycle. I really just want to see what it feels like, the euphoric experience and the cleanliness of test vs these nasty, crampy, libido loss, spiky, unpredictable, orals.
Problem is as you can see i've responded really well to everything I've consumed...meaning diet and ph. Thats a total of 44lbs this year.
I mean what the hell would happen to me on test...am I going to look stupid, noticeably roided out? I don't really want people to notice...I mean test-e is supposed to be a creeper right?
honest man
o and for those who dont understand
I did 2, 4 week cycles of havoc (which is a mild, anti-estrogenic oral steroid/prohormone)....its nothing compared to what most people consider Steroids (12week test deca etc)
Id attribute 30-40% only on havoc/epi cycles...I gained approx 12 on the first cycle, and lost 4 immediately after. And I only gained 5 on the last cycle.
Strength was not really increased much on the havoc cycles...it was mainly just more reps/more endurance to = larger muscles. This is why I'm looking to try something new.
Originally Posted by ericescobar
but why get THAT big. damn, props for having the determination just to get to that point, but unless you plan on saving the world from impending doom (which, you know, is IMPENDING) then i don't see the point in getting so big that you become massive. you got HUGE. i know for some it's a way to compete and maybe make a living off that, but i mean it takes a ton of effort to get that big, and i know i wouldn't be satisfied with a check for a few thousand bucks, if that's all the reward i get from my blood, sweat and hard poops.
i don't know, just my 2 cents. i just think there should be something better to justify this kind of effort. like a special earth defense force.
Or maybe he's compensating for something? The fact that he juiced could say something about that....Originally Posted by Purple Face
Originally Posted by ericescobar
but why get THAT big. damn, props for having the determination just to get to that point, but unless you plan on saving the world from impending doom (which, you know, is IMPENDING) then i don't see the point in getting so big that you become massive. you got HUGE. i know for some it's a way to compete and maybe make a living off that, but i mean it takes a ton of effort to get that big, and i know i wouldn't be satisfied with a check for a few thousand bucks, if that's all the reward i get from my blood, sweat and hard poops.
i don't know, just my 2 cents. i just think there should be something better to justify this kind of effort. like a special earth defense force.
Maybe people were making fun of his big $%+ nose look like it could bench 4 plates. The only side pic he has is of him with his head cut off lolz
Why is this exactly?Originally Posted by wawaweewa
I don't mean to spam but I also think many people don't think too much about their routines.
What I mean is, for example, having a squat session the day after or even 2 days after a deadlift session is completely idiotic and counterproductive.
Or training abs/obliques and then 1-2 days later squatting or dead lifting is just as asinine.
Another one would be doing shoulders a few days after doing chest or people who do biceps within a few days of doing back. Completely counterproductive.
Of course this does not hold true all of the time, especially for people who tend to do light (high rep work). They may be able to get away some soreness or muscle fatigue while doing certain exercises.
However, the goal of a routine should be to at least bring you in at as close to 100% into a training session as possible. Structure plays a very important role and one should think about how each exercise on a certain day effects workouts up to 2 days in advance.
this is horrible info considering many people have great results w/ Starting Strength and that calls on you to Squat 3 times a week...and on somedays squat and deadlift.Originally Posted by wawaweewa
I don't mean to spam but I also think many people don't think too much about their routines.
What I mean is, for example, having a squat session the day after or even 2 days after a deadlift session is completely idiotic and counterproductive.
Or training abs/obliques and then 1-2 days later squatting or dead lifting is just as asinine.
Another one would be doing shoulders a few days after doing chest or people who do biceps within a few days of doing back. Completely counterproductive.
Of course this does not hold true all of the time, especially for people who tend to do light (high rep work). They may be able to get away some soreness or muscle fatigue while doing certain exercises.
However, the goal of a routine should be to at least bring you in at as close to 100% into a training session as possible. Structure plays a very important role and one should think about how each exercise on a certain day effects workouts up to 2 days in advance.
Originally Posted by DJprestige21
I just going to go ahead and say I'm the biggest dude in this thread behind IICE.
Originally Posted by wawaweewa
I don't mean to spam but I also think many people don't think too much about their routines.
What I mean is, for example, having a squat session the day after or even 2 days after a deadlift session is completely idiotic and counterproductive.
Or training abs/obliques and then 1-2 days later squatting or dead lifting is just as asinine.
Another one would be doing shoulders a few days after doing chest or people who do biceps within a few days of doing back. Completely counterproductive.
Of course this does not hold true all of the time, especially for people who tend to do light (high rep work). They may be able to get away some soreness or muscle fatigue while doing certain exercises.
However, the goal of a routine should be to at least bring you in at as close to 100% into a training session as possible. Structure plays a very important role and one should think about how each exercise on a certain day effects workouts up to 2 days in advance.
Originally Posted by Al Audi
I see people DL and squat in the same session all the time at the gym.
Originally Posted by Al Audi
Damn right it takes a lot out of you.....
honest manOriginally Posted by Al Audi
some background info on the dude
i've ran two havoc cycles during this past year...I would attribute 30-40% to havoc and the rest to natural gains.
I'm really contemplating running some test-e at 400mg/w for 10 week cycle. I really just want to see what it feels like, the euphoric experience and the cleanliness of test vs these nasty, crampy, libido loss, spiky, unpredictable, orals.
Problem is as you can see i've responded really well to everything I've consumed...meaning diet and ph. Thats a total of 44lbs this year.
I mean what the hell would happen to me on test...am I going to look stupid, noticeably roided out? I don't really want people to notice...I mean test-e is supposed to be a creeper right?
I did 2, 4 week cycles of havoc (which is a mild, anti-estrogenic oral steroid/prohormone)....its nothing compared to what most people consider Steroids (12week test deca etc)
Id attribute 30-40% only on havoc/epi cycles...I gained approx 12 on the first cycle, and lost 4 immediately after. And I only gained 5 on the last cycle.
Strength was not really increased much on the havoc cycles...it was mainly just more reps/more endurance to = larger muscles. This is why I'm looking to try something new.
Sounds like he's done his research and ill give him props for that. Whats his age?...He might want to reconsider that test if he's asyoung as I think he is.Then again the Havoc might have already altered his natural test levels. If I was him Id hold out on taking anything for over a year andlet the body balance itself out naturally if its not too late. Ive heard havoc wrecking havoc (no pun intended) on ppls hormonal balance "nasty, crampy,libido loss, spiky, unpredictable, orals." He might be on a bad track to HRT. Even to this day Superdrol haunts me.
Originally Posted by ZEEN1NE
Originally Posted by Al Audi
I see people DL and squat in the same session all the time at the gym.
yeah definitely, i've done the same myself. the stretch on my hamstrings when doing stiff leg DL after squatting is simply AMAZING. it just takes a lot out of you, and when you go to DL on your back day, your lower back is already shot. atleast that was the case in my situation.