The 2014-2015 NBA Season Thread. Lock It Up Please: The Golden State Warriors Are The Champions

[Maximus Meridius]

Now that I think about it no superstar PG period has one a ring since what Isaiah Thomas?

 

[lb510]

So sick of hearing these dudes talk about this imaginary seeding that says who should win the MVP

 

[matters7]

Bledsoe just showed Westbrook whose the boss tonight

 

[808inthe206]

Now that I think about it no superstar PG period has one a ring since what Isaiah Thomas?

thats my point. Russ came close but failed just like Iverson. 

 

[shoeking2101]

If you're talking about winning championships, at least as history will tell it, your best player can't be your PG. Your second best player can't be a pg.

Whether he's a scorer, passer, whatever. If you're going to judge success in what wins in this league, then your best player, or your best two players can't be the point guard.

 

[dmbrhs]

Now that I think about it no superstar PG period has one a ring since what Isaiah Thomas?

Jason Kidd was past his prime, but he did win as a starting point guard.

 

[808inthe206]

If you're talking about winning championships, at least as history will tell it, your best player can't be your PG. Your second best player can't be a pg.

Whether he's a scorer, passer, whatever. If you're going to judge success in what wins in this league, then your best player, or your best two players can't be the point guard.Yes

THats exactly what im saying,

 

[jumpman cbt2]

All PG's aren't created the same. Who's to say PG's can't be high volume scorers like Westbrook?

Just like Chris Paul is a PG, so is Russ. So is Rondo. So is Steph. So is Westbrook. All PG's aren't created the same.

And yet the main purpose of a PG should be bringing the ball save to the other half of the court and create good plays for the team.
if the PG takes more shot than others he simply does not fullfil his purpose. Either the teammates suck in the offense or the PG is a ballhog.

 

[shoeking2101]

Loosing in the 2nd round = loosing in the finals.

If you all agree with the fact that there are no moral victories out here, then one would think you guys would agree with that notion.

So based on the aforementioned, it would seem that there's very little to support the notion that you can win a ring with one of your best two players being the point guard.

 

[MVP]

If you're talking about winning championships, at least as history will tell it, your best player can't be your PG. Your second best player can't be a pg.

Whether he's a scorer, passer, whatever. If you're going to judge success in what wins in this league, then your best player, or your best two players can't be the point guard.

Again...Tony Parker?

 

[shoeking2101]

And yet the main purpose of a PG should be bringing the ball save to the other half of the court and create good plays for the team.
if the PG takes more shot than others he simply does not fullfil his purpose. Either the teammates suck in the offense or the PG is a ballhog.

No, he doesn't fulfill what youuuu feel is the purpose of a PG.

All you are doing is creating yourrrr rubric for what you think a PG should do. All teams aren't created the same. For some teams, i.e. the thunder, your standard for a PG isn't conducive for their success.

 

[shoeking2101]

Again...Tony Parker?

K. Keep going.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

PG's are not shooting 38 times. Hell no. This new era of PG's are basically shorter SG's. It's not a knock on them but that's their game. And wasn't Westbrook a SG in college?

All PG's aren't created the same. Who's to say PG's can't be high volume scorers like Westbrook?

Just like Chris Paul is a PG, so is Russ. So is Rondo. So is Steph. So is Westbrook. All PG's aren't created the same.

PG can't be volume shooters. It goes against what the position is meant to be. Your job is to sit other dudes up then get yours. Allen Iverson was a SG in PG's body and that's what these dudes. We just gon have to agree to disagree.

 

[808inthe206]

To win ships,

And yet the main purpose of a PG should be bringing the ball save to the other half of the court and create good plays for the team.
if the PG takes more shot than others he simply does not fullfil his purpose. Either the teammates suck in the offense or the PG is a ballhog.

Yup, Look at the championship teams, 

Mario Chamlers - Handle the ball, hit 3s when needed to

Derek Fisher - Hits 3s on the kick out, strong and can handle the ball

Rondo - Can't shoot for **** but Created plays

Parker - Played Team ball, and could score - created plays  for Duncan and Manu - He is a combo guard but not like Iverson and Russ

Billups - Rip Lead the team in scoring, billups 2nd - No idea how they beat the lakers lol

Steve Kerr - 3s all day

Kenny Smith and Sam Cassell - WIth the Rockets they Created for the Team

 

[shoeking2101]

PG can't be volume shooters. It goes against what the position is meant to be. Your job is to sit other dudes up then get yours. Allen Iverson was a SG in PG's body and that's what these dudes. We just gon have to agree to disagree.

Oh word, says who?

Who made up that definition for a PG?

 

[MVP]

K. Keep going.

Chauncey Billups, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Walt Fraizer, Big O, Tiny A, maybe Bob Cousy. You did say historically.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

And yet the main purpose of a PG should be bringing the ball save to the other half of the court and create good plays for the team.
if the PG takes more shot than others he simply does not fullfil his purpose. Either the teammates suck in the offense or the PG is a ballhog.

No, he doesn't fulfill what youuuu feel is the purpose of a PG.

All you are doing is creating yourrrr rubric for what you think a PG should do. All teams aren't created the same. For some teams, i.e. the thunder, your standard for a PG isn't conducive for their success.

And this is where y'all don't get it. Forever the PG's job was to set other people up. In these last few years the position has changed. So he ain't creating his rubric. That's how it's always been taught.

 

[808inthe206]

Im not saying the PG can't be your best player, If you have a shoot first scoring PG you probably wont win a championship

 

[earldagoat]

You got to finish those bunnies around the rim, Westbrook

 

[Maximus Meridius]

PG can't be volume shooters. It goes against what the position is meant to be. Your job is to sit other dudes up then get yours. Allen Iverson was a SG in PG's body and that's what these dudes. We just gon have to agree to disagree.

Oh word, says who?

Who made up that definition for a PG?

Word.


Coaches since the game started.

 

[victor page]

Magic Johnson wasn't a volume shooter.

 

[MVP]

PG can't be volume shooters. It goes against what the position is meant to be. Your job is to sit other dudes up then get yours. Allen Iverson was a SG in PG's body and that's what these dudes. We just gon have to agree to disagree.

Yea no. It called evolution. QBs were only meant to be statues in the pocket and throw passes. Doesn't make ARod not the best in the league cause he has mobility and can do other things.

 

[shoeking2101]

Chauncey Billups, Magic Johnson, Isiah Thomas, Walt Fraizer, Big O, Tiny A, maybe Bob Cousy. You did say historically.

1) Your list includes one player that has played in the NBA in the last 20 years. That is important of note, because evolution is real and it happens.

2) That pistons team was an anomoly because I can prove why Sheed and Ben were just as important / good as Billups to their success. Those other guys you mentioned I'll give you credit for, but I'm speaking more in terms of the last 20 years or so.

 

[hypebeast5]

My friend is tryna say westbrook outplayed bledsoe

Westbrook is a better play but bledsoe got the better hand tonight

 

[shoeking2101]

Word.


Coaches since the game started.

This is stupid. You're ignoring evolution. Like I said above, evolution is real and it happens. What it takes to win in the NBA is relative to an individual team and it's make up. You can't take an archaic view of what a PG should be, and then place it on every team in the league, disregarding the make up of said team, the current climate of the league, etc.