THE 2015 NBA PRE SEASON THREAD: BEST WISHES TO LAMAR ODOM

[ill steelo]

I can't get over that we put Nick Young, Andre Blatche and Javale McGee on the floor at the same time. Smh

What's even more ridiculous is dudes had the nerve to criticize John Wall when he was surrounded by those clowns.

Replace the clowns with vets & surprise surprise, Wall basically leads the league in the assists.

 

[sea manup]

I would take lebron, steph, ad, Westbrook and kd over harden this year

 

[Lovetohate3000]

JJ was a top 10SG last year on the humble. They don't know.

17 PPG and solid defense on 47/44/90 splits. They schleep though.

just goes to show how weak the sg position is currently.... 

 

[Lovetohate3000]

I would take lebron, steph, ad, Westbrook and kd over harden this year

no question

 

[keel252]

Yea lets only rank players we saw. The others don't count.

Bruh stop it

 

[IATT]

lets see how good harden is when he is in his 30s . people are disrespectful towards ray  and i dont even like him ..... prime wade over harden as well.... if harden was around back then he'd be a michael finley.... 

I am curious to see how harden looks in his 30s.. He tested well at the combine.. But his game doesn't seem to be overly dependent on his athleticism, if he took care of himself a bit better I could see him being like Duncan and succeeding into his mid to late 30s

 

[wavycrocket]

just goes to show how weak the sg position is currently.... 

My point exactly. And I'm a JJ Reddick fan.

Dudes in here think Harden is the 3rd best SG of all time after one Season where he "almost" won the MVP

 

[wavycrocket]

I can't get over that we put Nick Young, Andre Blatche and Javale McGee on the floor at the same time. Smh

Don't forget Jordan Crawford too.....

Gilbert was in the locker room then as well...

 

[the collector]

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[mister friendly]

James Harden is argubly a top 5 player.

 

[8pm at msg]

Y'all let nostalgia prevent you from being objective.

It's like dudes from 00s and 90s are automatically put on a pedestal.

Y'all really think Harden wouldn't replicate his level of play just because he's a current day player?

You think refs are gonna stop calling fouls just because? Like guards weren't getting calls just off of pump fakes or screaming when they get to the rim?

 

[Lovetohate3000]

I am curious to see how harden looks in his 30s.. He tested well at the combine.. But his game doesn't seem to be overly dependent on his athleticism, if he took care of himself a bit better I could see him being like Duncan and succeeding into his mid to late 30s

his game is quick movements, hesitations, quick dribbles ,  step back  and crafty movements.

. that ish going to slow down. nobody going to be falling for that ish when harden is in his 30s... he'll be too slow.... 

 

[numbah1grimey]

James Harden is argubly a top 5 player.

We all agree, he's top 5, in the NBA. Some were saying guys like Ray Allen, Tmac, Vince, Wade, a few 90s/early 2000s are inferior to Harden. We will never honestly know.

But, it makes for a good debate.

 

[HIM]

I think Crawford is considered a top 5 SG by some NTers in here.

 

[wavycrocket]

James Harden is argubly a top 5 player.

Bron
KD
AD
Cp3
Steph
Westbrook
Blake

To me are all better players than James harden. I like James too. Offensively, he has it all. But the defensive holes in his game, and lack of effort definitely bring him closer to the bottom half of the top 10 players currently in the league.

It's funny how the same people who hate on prime Melo...view James Harden as "complete".

 

[Lovetohate3000]

We all agree, he's top 5, in the NBA. Some were saying guys like Ray Allen, Tmac, Vince, Wade, a few 90s/early 2000s are inferior to Harden. We will never honestly know.

But, it makes for a good debate.

we dont all agree.. 

 harden isnt better then lj , curry , kd , ad or westbrook..... hes on the outside looking in at the top 5.... 

 

[numbah1grimey]

Y'all let nostalgia prevent you from being objective.

It's like dudes from 00s and 90s are automatically put on a pedestal.

Y'all really think Harden wouldn't replicate his level of play just because he's a current day player?

You think refs are gonna stop calling fouls just because? Like guards weren't getting calls just off of pump fakes or screaming when they get to the rim?

No one is being Nostalgic. We've brought up names like Klay, Wall, Steph, Thompson, Kyrie, Lillard etc. Who else, in the modern NBA should we compare Harden with? Kobe and Vince are still in the league, which makes it funnier. I can't wait to see Oladipo and Bradley Beal have in store, for the next few seasons.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

I think Crawford is considered a top 5 SG by some NTers in here.

alot of nters think lots of dumb ish. 

 

[the collector]

I think Crawford is considered a top 5 SG by some NTers in here.

Who and how?

 

[sea manup]

The harden narrative is the same every year. People get impressed and hype him up over regular season stats the. He chokes in the playoffs

He might have the biggest drop off between regular season and playoffs that I have ever seen. Dude is shook out there

 

[8pm at msg]

The harden narrative is the same every year. People get impressed and hype him up over regular season stats the. He chokes in the playoffs

He might have the biggest drop off between regular season and playoffs that I have ever seen. Dude is shook out there

He just put up 27/6/8 on 44/38/92 this past postseason. Sounds like he finally made the adjustments too me. And he still managed to get to the line 10+ times a game. On the deepest playoff run he's ever made as a first option as well.

 

[Lovetohate3000]

He just put up 27/6/8 on 44/38/92 this past postseason. Sounds like he finally made the adjustments too me. And he still managed to get to the line 10+ times a game. On the deepest playoff run he's ever made as a first option as well.

the last time he played in the postseason he set a record for the most turnovers.. i hate this stats bs. watch the games....we all know when the big moment comes harden is going to f up. just a fact of life. 

if you look at the stats, peyton manning and tom brady have almost identical stats in the post season....stats smats..... 

 

[sea manup]

The harden narrative is the same every year. People get impressed and hype him up over regular season stats the. He chokes in the playoffs

He might have the biggest drop off between regular season and playoffs that I have ever seen. Dude is shook out there

He just put up 27/6/8 on 44/38/92 this past postseason. Sounds like he finally made the adjustments too me. And he still managed to get to the line 10+ times a game. On the deepest playoff run he's ever made as a first option as well.

The biggest moment of the season was that 4th quarter comeback where he didn't even play.

Elimination game vs the Warriors and he plays the worst game I have ever seen anyone play and that's not even an exaggeration.

He gets his empty stats but constantly fails to show up when it matters.

 

[sea manup]

Stat nerds like to say players were selfish in the volume shooting era but there is nothing more selfish than this era of it's okay to be a failure because your box score numbers look nice

 

[lawdog1]

the last time he played in the postseason he set a record for the most turnovers.. i hate this stats bs. watch the games....

if you look at the stats, peyton manning and tom brady have almost identical stats in the post season....

Yeah, those stats really don't tell the whole story with Harden's post-season last year. He did not play consistently well against either the Clippers or the Warriors. He had one or two really good games in both series, but was otherwise average. And let's not forget that he was on the bench for the most stretch that basically decided the series against the Clippers.