elpablo21
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I ain't scared
<Jigga> Come and get meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee <Jigga>
<Jigga> Come and get meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee <Jigga>
The days of illegal downloading coming to an end
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About to go in!!!!!
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Damn
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Before piracy and during piracy, I would only buy something if I really wanted or liked something regardless of whether I could get a pirated copy for free.
The way RIAA and others have handled this is the reason why I don't feel like paying for a copy anymore. It has nothing to do with how easy it is to get a free copy (it will always be relatively easy).
They had many ways to handle this situation. Some of it has been good (changes in the business model, like offering more streaming) but some of it has been counterproductive and instead only fueled ill will (prosecuting people randomly).
At the end of the day though, you're right, it's not that serious. The bigger issue, and what is a little more serious, is when they use this as an excuse to invade/stifle/regulate the good and legal aspects of the internet.
Are we unprincipled for wanting our cake (unregulated internet) and eating it too (chance to pirate)? Yes. But I'm pretty sure in their pursuit for more money they don't have any other principles either. It's not so much about who's right and who's wrong. It's about the fact that either side unbridled will go to the extreme. So each side has to fight for and represent themselves.
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These labels want their cake and eat it too more than we do.
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i buy most things now anyway, except for anime that isn't available in the US, but as a previous pirate I can understand why people are pissed.
if you guys still don't want to pay, then just go to the library, rent, and rip the cd's or DVD's.
if you guys still don't want to pay, then just go to the library, rent, and rip the cd's or DVD's.
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Cant stop Wont stop
superblytrife
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Mediacom ftw!
Easily the most unorganized, rag-tag company I've ever had service through. Should bode well for us customers, for once.
Easily the most unorganized, rag-tag company I've ever had service through. Should bode well for us customers, for once.
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This already exists. My mom was mailed papers saying that legal actions will be taken against her if she continues to share music. Apparently, a neighbor was using her modem (unlocked) and was torrenting/seeding music... they said if this continues she will be fined up $250K... sheesh... She put the lock on that router quick fast
sleaze jar omens
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Originally Posted by HankMoody
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Nah they won't. It's too late for illegal downloading to be a thing of the past. Maybe before Napster hit so hard a decade ago but not now.
Besides there are way too any file-sharing sites with dozens popping up every month and eager uploaders popping up at an even more alarming rate for me to do more than scoff at such claims.
I'm going to get my musical fix, goddamnit.
Besides there are way too any file-sharing sites with dozens popping up every month and eager uploaders popping up at an even more alarming rate for me to do more than scoff at such claims.
I'm going to get my musical fix, goddamnit.
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It was like 8 yrs ago I had plugged my laptop into the port at work on Fort Sill and they came down and tracked me and tried to take my laptop because they have something that sniffs out P2P programs. Ironically, I now work in the same capacity and with those same dudes who showed up trying to bust me up. We have since implemented more port security measures where that couldn't happen, they'd still see a foreign mac address on the switch, but it'd be blocked instantly and the port shut down.
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jumpmanfromdabay
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ill just listen to songs on youtube i guess
i live in texas
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As a person pursuing a future endeavors in the music industry i'd like to let you all know all the artist make their money through clever marketing and touring. Album sales for major labe artist are doing nothing but enabling the 60 old ceos of these conglomerates to drive Ferraris. Free music has become the new standard.. Indie artist who sell like 5 records and give the rest away to gain a loyal following through word of mouth marketing. The next thing you know $ 10k a night for a tour of like 30 shows. Theres a few guys in the jewelry thread here on NT showing off their spoils from their hustle. I personally started to despise supporting big label artist via once i learned how the game worked like 6 years ago.
Also we can thank Steve Jobs (Itunes) and Sean Parker ( Involved with Spotify , Facebook and creator of Napster ) for changing the game for the better.
Also we can thank Steve Jobs (Itunes) and Sean Parker ( Involved with Spotify , Facebook and creator of Napster ) for changing the game for the better.
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You already knowOriginally Posted by milestailsprowe
LOL For normal people this will hurt them but if needed
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Mixtapes>albums.
Leave my mixtapes alone, don't care how they handle albums.
Leave my mixtapes alone, don't care how they handle albums.
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Originally Posted by gunnascott
Originally Posted by JumpmanFromDaBay
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Record companies fault for pigeon holing artists into money making machine.
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Never underestimate the ability of human beings to rationalize their own selfishness.
You've got people acting like stealing porn is an act of civil disobedience. Please.
It's a shame that the people who really lose out in all of this are the reasonable ones who support the creative community and purchase media products legally. We bear all of the costs, but share all of the consequences. Without legitimate, paying customers, there's no one to subsidize the greedy companies or the greedy consumers. Greedy companies can never have enough profit; greedy consumers can never have enough product. Neither side cares about anyone but themselves. In a way, they deserve each other - because neither side truly brings anything to the table. They're just out to take.
To me, the best outcome in all of this would be for artists to go the Kickstarter route, bypass the RIAA/MPAA/ESA/etc., and simply tell consumers to put up or shut up.
You've got people acting like stealing porn is an act of civil disobedience. Please.
It's a shame that the people who really lose out in all of this are the reasonable ones who support the creative community and purchase media products legally. We bear all of the costs, but share all of the consequences. Without legitimate, paying customers, there's no one to subsidize the greedy companies or the greedy consumers. Greedy companies can never have enough profit; greedy consumers can never have enough product. Neither side cares about anyone but themselves. In a way, they deserve each other - because neither side truly brings anything to the table. They're just out to take.
To me, the best outcome in all of this would be for artists to go the Kickstarter route, bypass the RIAA/MPAA/ESA/etc., and simply tell consumers to put up or shut up.