The Invincible Thread

[Verde Shuttles]

As much as I hate Cowherd there isn't much to disagree with there

 

[IATT]

first round FCS QBs:

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[table][tr][td]Year[/td][td]Pick[/td][td]Name[/td][td]School[/td][td]  [/td][/tr][tr][td]1978[/td][td]17[/td][td]Doug Williams[/td][td]Grambling[/td][td]  [/td][/tr][tr][td]1979[/td][td]7[/td][td]Phil Simms[/td][td]Morehead St[/td][td]  [/td][/tr][tr][td]1995[/td][td]3[/td][td]Steve McNair[/td][td]Alcorn State[/td][td]  [/td][/tr][tr][td]2008[/td][td]18[/td][td]Joe Flacco[/td][td]Delaware[/td][td]  [/td][/tr][/table]

 

[stillin729]

first round FCS QBs:

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[table][TR]
[TD]Year[/TD]
[TD]Pick[/TD]
[TD]Name[/TD]
[TD]School[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1978[/TD]
[TD]17[/TD]
[TD]Doug Williams[/TD]
[TD]Grambling[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1979[/TD]
[TD]7[/TD]
[TD]Phil Simms[/TD]
[TD]Morehead St[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1995[/TD]
[TD]3[/TD]
[TD]Steve McNair[/TD]
[TD]Alcorn State[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2008[/TD]
[TD]18[/TD]
[TD]Joe Flacco[/TD]
[TD]Delaware[/TD]
[TD] [/TD]
[/TR]
[/table]

But that doesn't mean anything because they didn't accomplish it in D1 according to certain unintelligent folks

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Doesn't mean ****, but here is Colin Cowherd's QB listing.

Tier 1 - Stars in their prime:

Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson

Tier 2 - Stars out of their prime:

Tom Brady, Tony Romo, Big Ben, Phillip Rivers, Drew Brees, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer

Tier 3 - Close but never stars:

Alex Smith, Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan

Tier 4 - Could be stars:

Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Teddy Bridgewater, Blake Bortles, Derek Carr

Tier 5 - Fools gold:

Brock Osweiler, Ryan Tannehill, Andy Dalton, Kirk Cousins

Dalton stay getting disrespected.

 

[sb]

 

[DeadsetAce]

TB12 tier 2?!?


****.outta.here.

 

[IATT]

Tier 3 - Close but never stars:

Alex Smith, Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan

this is probably the only part I'm looking at sideways

 

[IATT]

trying find sanchez?

 

[dmxfury]

Dalton isn't fools gold and I don't think all of those tier 2 guys are last their prime


He isn't tier 1 quality but he's above many on that list

 

[sb]

trying find sanchez?

i think sanchez will be good this season. not great, not elite but good.

 

[stillin729]

Ben isn't past his prime IMO

Dalton probably goes in #3 until further notice

out of could be stars I think Teddy is least likely to take the next step

 

[cruzzz]

That list would be much better if he didn't tag tier levels to the groupings.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

But that doesn't mean anything because they didn't accomplish it in D1 according to certain unintelligent folks

@ calling YOU somebody unintelligent.


If y'all are gonna do this at least be smart enough to put it in perspective. 2 of those QB's were basically forced to those schools cuz racist D1 schools wouldn't allow them to play QB. Bad examples. Flacco and Simms are decent examples but again teams did not reach for them.

 

[stillin729]

@ calling YOU somebody unintelligent.


If y'all are gonna do this at least be smart enough to put it in perspective. 2 of those QB's were basically forced to those schools cuz racist D1 schools wouldn't allow them to play QB. Bad examples. Flacco and Simms are decent examples but again teams did not reach for them.

if it fits your argument right?

again how is Carson a reach before he's even played a down in the NFL?

Carson was 5'8 as a freshman, there is a reason he went to the FCS

 

[Armada]

 
That list would be much better if he didn't tag tier levels to the groupings.

I agree the name descriptions for each group is really all you need.

 

[Trey Bantz]

Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan don't fall under any of those descriptions.

Ryan was once widely considered a star and Joe Flacco led his team to a Super Bowl.

They've been more like teetering stars.

Also add Carson Palmer and Philip Rivers to the group of teetering stars.

 

[rolaholic]

TB12 tier 2?!?


****.outta.here.

I'm saying

Ben belongs at the top

Luck and Russ are really ahead too...:x

I'll need to see a repeat of last year before putting Russ on that top tier just yet

 

[Maximus Meridius]

TB12 tier 2?!?


****.outta.here.

Im saying

Luck and Russ really ahead too...:x

I mean I get what he was saying with the labels but I'm not putting Luck/Wilson in a tier over Ben/Brady. They might be older but they're still better than those dudes.

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Big Ben is still in his prime. Colin is buggin'.

 

[Trey Bantz]

TB12 tier 2?!?


****.outta.here.

I'm saying

Ben belongs at the top

Luck and Russ are really ahead too...:x

I'll need to see a repeat of last year before putting Russ on that top tier just yet

Cam also needs another elite season before he's considered an elite QB

*flame suit on*

 

[stillin729]

Cam won the MVP and is 3 time pro bowler

he is elite until he doesn't have another elite season

he has 160 TD's in 5 seasons

 

[Trey Bantz]

NT is a Cam Newton circle jerk so I knew my opinion wouldn't be popular.

The Pro Bowl has also become a joke as of late.

 

[rolaholic]

I wouldn't put Cam in the same tier as TB/AR and Ben as well just yet imo. Just below.

 

[DeadsetAce]

Big Ben is still in his prime. Colin is buggin'.

DMX reppin' that post in 3...2...1....



and i agree, FTR. dude is still playing at a high level

 

[a55a5in11]

TB12 tier 2?!?


****.outta.here.

I'm saying

Ben belongs at the top

Luck and Russ are really ahead too...:x

I'll need to see a repeat of last year before putting Russ on that top tier just yet

The same Russ that's been better than Luck?