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Right...
I never said Melo was the better prospect, LeBron CLEARLY was.
Melo had the better game AT THAT POINT in life.
LeBron has surpassed him by leaps and bounds now.
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I never said Melo was the better prospect, LeBron CLEARLY was.
Melo had the better game AT THAT POINT in life.
LeBron has surpassed him by leaps and bounds now.
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dude thinks hes an excellent defender (above average)
i dont agree, i think hes average
that better?
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Lonzo declaring 2 seconds after being eliminated shouldn't matter. We all knew what his purpose at UCLA was. He said he was playing 1 season & leaving before the season started.
"lonzo declaring after the draft = hes just Happy to be there and doesn't care". I don't see it. Lonzo helped take a ****** Chino Hills HS team and made em the best in the state. Pretty sure they didn't lose in 2015-2016. Lonzo helped take a UCLA team to another level in one year. How does him not showing emotion after a loss = not caring?
"lonzo declaring after the draft = hes just Happy to be there and doesn't care". I don't see it. Lonzo helped take a ****** Chino Hills HS team and made em the best in the state. Pretty sure they didn't lose in 2015-2016. Lonzo helped take a UCLA team to another level in one year. How does him not showing emotion after a loss = not caring?
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Right that's why I'm not as concerned about a Dlo/Ball backcourt. It'll be ******, but if you pair em with a rim protector, they'll be fine. Especially cuz they'll have the length to switch 1-4.
Team defense is a lot more important than individual defense. The problem is, it's not easy to find those rim protector type players. A player like Draymond is rare in terms of what he brings defensively. The Warrior's defense would fall apart without Draymond.
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@ minimum floor ConleyI can see the Conley comparison due to his shiftiness, quickness, etc. As a floor general? I don't see it. Fox seems a little more Wall-istic from the Kentucky days when it comes to going at 100 mph and using his size/explosiveness to do what he wants in the open floor. He can tailor it like Wall has after maturing.
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Yup even tho it helps to have solid defense guards, team D will always be in shambles if you got nobody protecting the paint or hleping if/when they get backcourt players ...versatility to swruich hels the defense too
And you right bout Lonzo at UCLA...they talking bout he doesnt care because he not crying?
The boy NEVER shows emotion and he's the main reason the same team from before he got there had the success they did..I dont think he's the automatic 2nd best player in this draft but its real solid reasons why scouts are high on him compared to the other PG's after him
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Intensity is an intangible, bruh. That's something you either have, or you don't.
Turning Nick Young into a serviceable defender has more to do with getting him to be more aware than actually what he has on the inside that makes him intense on that end of the floor.
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Nick Young's problem is IQ. That's a tangible. He doesn't understand the game of basketball on either side of the floor.
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Trust me, I know.
I'm just using Young as an example cause dude brought him up. Not sure how he actually did on defense last year, but I'm going off of dude's word.
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Yeah, I agree with your initial point.
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It's all about expectations.
I expect more from D'aaron Fox than most.
A "floor" for a Top 5 soon to be Top 3 pick shouldnt be a ****** NBA player just because, well, they have similar weaknesses.
If he is no better than Elfrid freaking Payton, MY expectations for him were wrong and he's a bust.
But Mike Conley is easily reachable IMO and I never said, right this second.
Expectations should be high for a top 5 pick in a "loaded" draft.
I expect more from D'aaron Fox than most.
A "floor" for a Top 5 soon to be Top 3 pick shouldnt be a ****** NBA player just because, well, they have similar weaknesses.
If he is no better than Elfrid freaking Payton, MY expectations for him were wrong and he's a bust.
But Mike Conley is easily reachable IMO and I never said, right this second.
Expectations should be high for a top 5 pick in a "loaded" draft.
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Lmao no. DLo isn't as nice as your acting
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Fox Floor is Keyon Dooling and Ceiling is John Wall
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I can see the Conley comparison due to his shiftiness, quickness, etc. As a floor general? I don't see it. Fox seems a little more Wall-istic from the Kentucky days when it comes to going at 100 mph and using his size/explosiveness to do what he wants in the open floor. He can tailor it like Wall has after maturing.
I was waiting for you to see this
You mentions qualities of both guys I mentioned he'll fall between.
*shrug*
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Sasha vujacic is one of the most intense defenders I've ever seen. Also one of the worst defenders I've ever seen
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He's better than Keyon Dooling now
Floor might be Patrick Beverly, John Wall ceiling seems about right
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Keyon Dooling.
Let's start naming the worst guys in history.
The sheer disrespect
Let's start naming the worst guys in history.
The sheer disrespect
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Keyon Dooling wasn't that bad
. He had a long and productive NBA career
He also had a messed up childhood so I give him some props
He also had a messed up childhood so I give him some props
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Dog I'm legit laughing.....
Dooling? Beverly? Payton? And not Gary either 
Ain't none of y'all meatheads gonna ruin my day, Mo Bamba chose Texas
All day.
Dooling? Beverly? Payton? And not Gary either
Ain't none of y'all meatheads gonna ruin my day, Mo Bamba chose Texas
All day.
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whoever thinks fox is anything near john wall needs to revisit those pre-nba john wall videos.....john wall was bouncing, only a few players come in THAT athletic.....I.E. Blake griffin......
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Hearing the name Kenyon Dooling
He was a sleeper of mine in 2k years back. On the list of players who were way better in that game than they had any right to be.
He was a sleeper of mine in 2k years back. On the list of players who were way better in that game than they had any right to be.
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Hearing the name Kenyon Dooling
He was a sleeper of mine in 2k years back. On the list of players who were way better in that game than they had any right to be.
He was great on the Magic in 2k. So was Chris Duhon.
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Hearing the name Kenyon Dooling
He was a sleeper of mine in 2k years back. On the list of players who were way better in that game than they had any right to be.
He was great on the Magic in 2k. So was Chris Duhon.
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Soooo you think klay isn't tops at his position defensively?
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