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Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by FRANCHISE 55

Defensively, Westbrook > Rose.

people were mad when i INSISTED this last season
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Who was out of their mind to say otherwise? Pooh is nowhere near the defensive level that Russy is, I also don't think Russy is a PG but thats a convo for another day.

And for those of you who say Pooh can't shoot are you talking about 3pt range? Because if not this is a bad assessment seeing as though he lives off drives and mid range jump shots.
 
Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by FRANCHISE 55

Defensively, Westbrook > Rose.

people were mad when i INSISTED this last season
grin.gif

Who was out of their mind to say otherwise? Pooh is nowhere near the defensive level that Russy is, I also don't think Russy is a PG but thats a convo for another day.

And for those of you who say Pooh can't shoot are you talking about 3pt range? Because if not this is a bad assessment seeing as though he lives off drives and mid range jump shots.
 
Tier 1: The exemplar

Chris Paul

Tier 2: Young and great

Rajon Rondo
Deron Williams

Tier 3: Young and good

Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
John Wall
Stephen Curry

Tier 3.5: On the way out, but still producing on potential playoff teams

Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Tony Parker
Chauncey Billups
Andre Miller

Tier 5: Kind of young and average to above-average/Dudes I don't like

Brandon Jennings
Mike Conley
Aaron Brooks
Jameer Nelson
Raymond Felton
D.J. Augustin

Tier 6: I remember that guy

Baron Davis

Tier 7: Devin Harris

Devin Harris

Tier 8: LOL JPZ

Jonny Flynn
Ricky Rubio
 
Tier 1: The exemplar

Chris Paul

Tier 2: Young and great

Rajon Rondo
Deron Williams

Tier 3: Young and good

Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
John Wall
Stephen Curry

Tier 3.5: On the way out, but still producing on potential playoff teams

Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Tony Parker
Chauncey Billups
Andre Miller

Tier 5: Kind of young and average to above-average/Dudes I don't like

Brandon Jennings
Mike Conley
Aaron Brooks
Jameer Nelson
Raymond Felton
D.J. Augustin

Tier 6: I remember that guy

Baron Davis

Tier 7: Devin Harris

Devin Harris

Tier 8: LOL JPZ

Jonny Flynn
Ricky Rubio
 
Originally Posted by MJsaver

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by MJsaver

Good thread AMP, at least now u dont have to bump that old thread every other day  .

All your power rankings look legit so far as well, although its still very early.

John Wall is fast as hell, im just not sure about his jumper and he's gotta bring the to's down because 5 is not a good look.

How about the 4.5 TOs for Rose?

John Wall is looking every bit as good as advertised....there's a LONG way to go, and I'm sure his numbers will dip...but 6 games in averaging 19/4/10 to go w. 3 steals is damn impressive.  If we're talking about SOLELY this season, how can you not have John Wall sniffing around that top-5 when discussing the best PGs in the NBA? 

Rose is an improved player offensively, but he still leaves a lot to be desired when on the defensive end of the floor.  He's not a complete PG, and I don't think it's too crazy to suggest that Russell Westbrook is the better player. 
  
Wasnt dissin Wall by any means, just an observation thats all....I couldve also mentioned Nash is avg 4.9 but i think he's earned the benefit of the doubt that by seasons end he'll be around 3 per game.
All i said was i'm not sure about his jumper and he needs to bring his to's down and i stand by both, its as if i said he was Bosh like and a bust after 8 games or a waste of a #1 pick or some $#!@.

Im not sure why you brought up D. Rose ive went on record about his mediocre playmaking ability, and in his defense his career avg is well below 5 per game. Hes def not a complete PG, your preaching to the choir on that one. There are 3 COMPLETE pg's in the leage Dwill, CP3, & Nash....

Thats my biggest problem with the new crop of pg's, they cant SHOOT..Westbrook = brick, D. Rose = mostly brick,Tyreke = usually brick , and Rondo = firehouse.


 No prob...didn't think you were dissin' Wall...but I was just bringing up the hig TO rate for Rose thus far, and then I kinda went off....
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I do think that Westbrook is a better PG than Rose.  I'll get in to it a little later on.....
 
Originally Posted by MJsaver

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Originally Posted by MJsaver

Good thread AMP, at least now u dont have to bump that old thread every other day  .

All your power rankings look legit so far as well, although its still very early.

John Wall is fast as hell, im just not sure about his jumper and he's gotta bring the to's down because 5 is not a good look.

How about the 4.5 TOs for Rose?

John Wall is looking every bit as good as advertised....there's a LONG way to go, and I'm sure his numbers will dip...but 6 games in averaging 19/4/10 to go w. 3 steals is damn impressive.  If we're talking about SOLELY this season, how can you not have John Wall sniffing around that top-5 when discussing the best PGs in the NBA? 

Rose is an improved player offensively, but he still leaves a lot to be desired when on the defensive end of the floor.  He's not a complete PG, and I don't think it's too crazy to suggest that Russell Westbrook is the better player. 
  
Wasnt dissin Wall by any means, just an observation thats all....I couldve also mentioned Nash is avg 4.9 but i think he's earned the benefit of the doubt that by seasons end he'll be around 3 per game.
All i said was i'm not sure about his jumper and he needs to bring his to's down and i stand by both, its as if i said he was Bosh like and a bust after 8 games or a waste of a #1 pick or some $#!@.

Im not sure why you brought up D. Rose ive went on record about his mediocre playmaking ability, and in his defense his career avg is well below 5 per game. Hes def not a complete PG, your preaching to the choir on that one. There are 3 COMPLETE pg's in the leage Dwill, CP3, & Nash....

Thats my biggest problem with the new crop of pg's, they cant SHOOT..Westbrook = brick, D. Rose = mostly brick,Tyreke = usually brick , and Rondo = firehouse.


 No prob...didn't think you were dissin' Wall...but I was just bringing up the hig TO rate for Rose thus far, and then I kinda went off....
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I do think that Westbrook is a better PG than Rose.  I'll get in to it a little later on.....
 
Cake if Westbrook is a 2 guard than Pooh sure as hell ain't either.  They are both scorers first, don't really see what would make 1 a PG and one not...
 
Cake if Westbrook is a 2 guard than Pooh sure as hell ain't either.  They are both scorers first, don't really see what would make 1 a PG and one not...
 
I don't know bro... when I see him I just don't think PG just like when I see Gillie I don't think PG... Suit me #Shrug
 
I don't know bro... when I see him I just don't think PG just like when I see Gillie I don't think PG... Suit me #Shrug
 
Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Cake if Westbrook is a 2 guard than Pooh sure as hell ain't either.  They are both scorers first, don't really see what would make 1 a PG and one not...

Yerp.
oh, and Westbrook is that dude. 
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