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it doesn't, and I'm not even saying it to praise his game.
it's just what he is right now, by default or not.
it's just what he is right now, by default or not.
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it doesn't, and I'm not even saying it to praise his game.
it's just what he is right now, by default or not.
it's just what he is right now, by default or not.
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lebron is more of a complete player that's why he plays pg and he has great court vision, but he's no point guard
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lebron is more of a complete player that's why he plays pg and he has great court vision, but he's no point guard
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I would just like to point out the number of championships all of these PGs have brought their teams.
And I mean... out of EVERYONE mentioned.
Let's see... we've got Rondo, but he wasn't even the Rondo he is today when he won it all a few years ago.
We've got Tony Parker, which you have to say was a case of a PG contributing large in bringing home championships, since he won Finals MVP once.
And we've got Chauncey.
Just wanted to throw out there for discussion.
And I mean... out of EVERYONE mentioned.
Let's see... we've got Rondo, but he wasn't even the Rondo he is today when he won it all a few years ago.
We've got Tony Parker, which you have to say was a case of a PG contributing large in bringing home championships, since he won Finals MVP once.
And we've got Chauncey.
Just wanted to throw out there for discussion.
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I would just like to point out the number of championships all of these PGs have brought their teams.
And I mean... out of EVERYONE mentioned.
Let's see... we've got Rondo, but he wasn't even the Rondo he is today when he won it all a few years ago.
We've got Tony Parker, which you have to say was a case of a PG contributing large in bringing home championships, since he won Finals MVP once.
And we've got Chauncey.
Just wanted to throw out there for discussion.
And I mean... out of EVERYONE mentioned.
Let's see... we've got Rondo, but he wasn't even the Rondo he is today when he won it all a few years ago.
We've got Tony Parker, which you have to say was a case of a PG contributing large in bringing home championships, since he won Finals MVP once.
And we've got Chauncey.
Just wanted to throw out there for discussion.
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Well, they're all still pretty young. It's not like we're talking about Jason Kidd hereOriginally Posted by 23ska909red02
I would just like to point out the number of championships all of these PGs have brought their teams.
And I mean... out of EVERYONE mentioned.
Let's see... we've got Rondo, but he wasn't even the Rondo he is today when he won it all a few years ago.
We've got Tony Parker, which you have to say was a case of a PG contributing large in bringing home championships, since he won Finals MVP once.
And we've got Chauncey.
Just wanted to throw out there for discussion.
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Well, they're all still pretty young. It's not like we're talking about Jason Kidd hereOriginally Posted by 23ska909red02
I would just like to point out the number of championships all of these PGs have brought their teams.
And I mean... out of EVERYONE mentioned.
Let's see... we've got Rondo, but he wasn't even the Rondo he is today when he won it all a few years ago.
We've got Tony Parker, which you have to say was a case of a PG contributing large in bringing home championships, since he won Finals MVP once.
And we've got Chauncey.
Just wanted to throw out there for discussion.
darthska
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Sorry, thought it was a PG thread.
Oh wait...
I probably should have been more specific and said that I was talking about all PGs mentioned in the thread.
Oh wait...
Oh wait...
I probably should have been more specific and said that I was talking about all PGs mentioned in the thread.
Oh wait...
darthska
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Sorry, thought it was a PG thread.
Oh wait...
I probably should have been more specific and said that I was talking about all PGs mentioned in the thread.
Oh wait...
Oh wait...
I probably should have been more specific and said that I was talking about all PGs mentioned in the thread.
Oh wait...
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Here is the early list of candidates for mvp from nba.com
1. Chris Paul, Hornets (7-0)
Last Week's Rank - 2
Now the NBA is down to one unbeaten team and Paul primarily is responsible, with his play and with his leadership. His stats weren't breathtaking in victories over Miami, Milwaukee and the Clippers, though he did get the compliment of seeing the Bucks' 6-foot-8 Luc Mbah a Moute assigned to him as Milwaukee coach Scott Skiles sought ways to cut down on Paul's passing lanes and otherwise pester him. "The goal is to not let him get in the paint," Skiles said. "But that's every team's goal."
2. Deron Williams, Jazz (5-3)
Last Week's Rank --
What did Williams do this week, besides boosting himself close to Paul in MVP consideration the way those two split so many best-PG debates? He had 30 points and seven assists against the Clippers, 21 and 14 at Miami and 30 and 14 at Orlando. Utah wound up with two victories in overtime, two on a dreaded back-to-back in Florida and all three as the result of terrific comebacks. (Special mention in the MVP teammate category: Paul Millsap averaged 31.3 points and nine boards, while shooting 61 percent in the three games.)
3. Pau Gasol, Lakers (8-1)
Last Week's Rank - 8
Gasol is averaging 2.5 fewer points than Bryant but he has a big lead in rebounds (11.8 to 5.4) and is even leading his backcourt pal in assists (a team-high 4.4 to Bryant's 4.3). The Western Conference's player of the week in Week 2, Gasol is averaging two fewer shots than Bryant but one more "make," thaks to 52.9 percent shooting (Bryant is at 42.2). And while he sputtered in the loss at Denver Thursday (6-of-17), the lanky Spaniard still finished with 17 points and 20 rebounds.
4. Rajon Rondo, Celtics (7-2)
Last Week's Rank - 3
In about 82 minutes against the Miami Heat, spread across two meetings, the Celtics point guard has passed for 33 assists with only six turnovers. His overall ratio is nearly as good -- 134 to 35 -- and he has set up 15 or more Boston baskets six times in nine games.
5. Derrick Rose, Bulls (4-3)
Last Week's Rank --
If not for Gasol, this could have been an all-point guard Top 5. Rose ranks fourth among all NBA players at 37.0 in combined points, rebounds and assists. He is as vital to the Bulls as Paul and Williams are to their clubs, had Chicago winning the games it was supposed to in advance of a grueling road stretch and ? save for his 45.5 percent shooting decline -- shows the results of a busy but dedicated summer.
6. Kevin Durant, Thunder (4-3)
Last Week's Rank - 6
The league's leading scorer always is going to attract MVP votes. But Durant's efficiency isn't strong -- he ranks 23rd, 10 spots behind Elton Brand and five behind Roy Hibbert ? and his assists average is the lowest of his career. He has passed for more than four in a game yet.
7. Kobe Bryant, Lakers (7-1)
Last Week's Rank - 1
Bryant needed 32 shots (making 11) to get there, but in the loss at Denver he scored a season-best 34 points and became the youngest player to reach 26,000 in a career. His 32 years, 80 days beat Wilt Chamberlain by 34 days.
8. Dwight Howard, Magic (5-2)
Last Week's Rank - 7
Howard is scoring at a career-best pace and, with 58 percent accuracy on his field goals, is on track to outshoot himself from the foul line for the fourth time in seven seasons. But eight guys have had more double-doubles so far. Also, Orlando's last three opponents shot a combined 48.4 percent, which would rank among the league's worst. That isn't what Orlando or their two-time Defensive Player of the Year have come to expect.
9. Dirk Nowitzki, Mavericks (5-2)
Last Week's Rank - 5
It's not that Nowitzki played himself down in the rankings, it's just that last week was a special case with very strict criteria. Nowitzki this week sparked the Mavericks to victories over Boston and Memphis, and even on his 6-of-14 shooting night vs. the Grizzlies, he had a double-double (12 points, 10 boards) in less than 30 minutes.
10. Monta Ellis, Warriors (6-3)
Last Week's Rank - 5
Truth be told, the committee was prepared to slot in Dwyane Wade here until his almost listless performance against Boston Thursday night. He followed up games of 26, 28, 29 and 39 points with just eight as the Heat seemed stumped for way to get Wade and James going simultaneously. Ellis, on a downer night for Golden State (brutal loss at Chicago on tail end of road back-to-backs), still got his (24) for the 6-3 Warriors. Luis Scola, Al Horford or Millsap all might grab this rung if they keep playing as they have with sufficient team results.
Notice 4 of the top 5 are point guards
I'm not saying that this is how the list is gunna look by season's end but it's just interesting to notice.
1. Chris Paul, Hornets (7-0)
Last Week's Rank - 2
Now the NBA is down to one unbeaten team and Paul primarily is responsible, with his play and with his leadership. His stats weren't breathtaking in victories over Miami, Milwaukee and the Clippers, though he did get the compliment of seeing the Bucks' 6-foot-8 Luc Mbah a Moute assigned to him as Milwaukee coach Scott Skiles sought ways to cut down on Paul's passing lanes and otherwise pester him. "The goal is to not let him get in the paint," Skiles said. "But that's every team's goal."
2. Deron Williams, Jazz (5-3)
Last Week's Rank --
What did Williams do this week, besides boosting himself close to Paul in MVP consideration the way those two split so many best-PG debates? He had 30 points and seven assists against the Clippers, 21 and 14 at Miami and 30 and 14 at Orlando. Utah wound up with two victories in overtime, two on a dreaded back-to-back in Florida and all three as the result of terrific comebacks. (Special mention in the MVP teammate category: Paul Millsap averaged 31.3 points and nine boards, while shooting 61 percent in the three games.)
3. Pau Gasol, Lakers (8-1)
Last Week's Rank - 8
Gasol is averaging 2.5 fewer points than Bryant but he has a big lead in rebounds (11.8 to 5.4) and is even leading his backcourt pal in assists (a team-high 4.4 to Bryant's 4.3). The Western Conference's player of the week in Week 2, Gasol is averaging two fewer shots than Bryant but one more "make," thaks to 52.9 percent shooting (Bryant is at 42.2). And while he sputtered in the loss at Denver Thursday (6-of-17), the lanky Spaniard still finished with 17 points and 20 rebounds.
4. Rajon Rondo, Celtics (7-2)
Last Week's Rank - 3
In about 82 minutes against the Miami Heat, spread across two meetings, the Celtics point guard has passed for 33 assists with only six turnovers. His overall ratio is nearly as good -- 134 to 35 -- and he has set up 15 or more Boston baskets six times in nine games.
5. Derrick Rose, Bulls (4-3)
Last Week's Rank --
If not for Gasol, this could have been an all-point guard Top 5. Rose ranks fourth among all NBA players at 37.0 in combined points, rebounds and assists. He is as vital to the Bulls as Paul and Williams are to their clubs, had Chicago winning the games it was supposed to in advance of a grueling road stretch and ? save for his 45.5 percent shooting decline -- shows the results of a busy but dedicated summer.
6. Kevin Durant, Thunder (4-3)
Last Week's Rank - 6
The league's leading scorer always is going to attract MVP votes. But Durant's efficiency isn't strong -- he ranks 23rd, 10 spots behind Elton Brand and five behind Roy Hibbert ? and his assists average is the lowest of his career. He has passed for more than four in a game yet.
7. Kobe Bryant, Lakers (7-1)
Last Week's Rank - 1
Bryant needed 32 shots (making 11) to get there, but in the loss at Denver he scored a season-best 34 points and became the youngest player to reach 26,000 in a career. His 32 years, 80 days beat Wilt Chamberlain by 34 days.
8. Dwight Howard, Magic (5-2)
Last Week's Rank - 7
Howard is scoring at a career-best pace and, with 58 percent accuracy on his field goals, is on track to outshoot himself from the foul line for the fourth time in seven seasons. But eight guys have had more double-doubles so far. Also, Orlando's last three opponents shot a combined 48.4 percent, which would rank among the league's worst. That isn't what Orlando or their two-time Defensive Player of the Year have come to expect.
9. Dirk Nowitzki, Mavericks (5-2)
Last Week's Rank - 5
It's not that Nowitzki played himself down in the rankings, it's just that last week was a special case with very strict criteria. Nowitzki this week sparked the Mavericks to victories over Boston and Memphis, and even on his 6-of-14 shooting night vs. the Grizzlies, he had a double-double (12 points, 10 boards) in less than 30 minutes.
10. Monta Ellis, Warriors (6-3)
Last Week's Rank - 5
Truth be told, the committee was prepared to slot in Dwyane Wade here until his almost listless performance against Boston Thursday night. He followed up games of 26, 28, 29 and 39 points with just eight as the Heat seemed stumped for way to get Wade and James going simultaneously. Ellis, on a downer night for Golden State (brutal loss at Chicago on tail end of road back-to-backs), still got his (24) for the 6-3 Warriors. Luis Scola, Al Horford or Millsap all might grab this rung if they keep playing as they have with sufficient team results.
Notice 4 of the top 5 are point guards
I'm not saying that this is how the list is gunna look by season's end but it's just interesting to notice.
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Here is the early list of candidates for mvp from nba.com
1. Chris Paul, Hornets (7-0)
Last Week's Rank - 2
Now the NBA is down to one unbeaten team and Paul primarily is responsible, with his play and with his leadership. His stats weren't breathtaking in victories over Miami, Milwaukee and the Clippers, though he did get the compliment of seeing the Bucks' 6-foot-8 Luc Mbah a Moute assigned to him as Milwaukee coach Scott Skiles sought ways to cut down on Paul's passing lanes and otherwise pester him. "The goal is to not let him get in the paint," Skiles said. "But that's every team's goal."
2. Deron Williams, Jazz (5-3)
Last Week's Rank --
What did Williams do this week, besides boosting himself close to Paul in MVP consideration the way those two split so many best-PG debates? He had 30 points and seven assists against the Clippers, 21 and 14 at Miami and 30 and 14 at Orlando. Utah wound up with two victories in overtime, two on a dreaded back-to-back in Florida and all three as the result of terrific comebacks. (Special mention in the MVP teammate category: Paul Millsap averaged 31.3 points and nine boards, while shooting 61 percent in the three games.)
3. Pau Gasol, Lakers (8-1)
Last Week's Rank - 8
Gasol is averaging 2.5 fewer points than Bryant but he has a big lead in rebounds (11.8 to 5.4) and is even leading his backcourt pal in assists (a team-high 4.4 to Bryant's 4.3). The Western Conference's player of the week in Week 2, Gasol is averaging two fewer shots than Bryant but one more "make," thaks to 52.9 percent shooting (Bryant is at 42.2). And while he sputtered in the loss at Denver Thursday (6-of-17), the lanky Spaniard still finished with 17 points and 20 rebounds.
4. Rajon Rondo, Celtics (7-2)
Last Week's Rank - 3
In about 82 minutes against the Miami Heat, spread across two meetings, the Celtics point guard has passed for 33 assists with only six turnovers. His overall ratio is nearly as good -- 134 to 35 -- and he has set up 15 or more Boston baskets six times in nine games.
5. Derrick Rose, Bulls (4-3)
Last Week's Rank --
If not for Gasol, this could have been an all-point guard Top 5. Rose ranks fourth among all NBA players at 37.0 in combined points, rebounds and assists. He is as vital to the Bulls as Paul and Williams are to their clubs, had Chicago winning the games it was supposed to in advance of a grueling road stretch and ? save for his 45.5 percent shooting decline -- shows the results of a busy but dedicated summer.
6. Kevin Durant, Thunder (4-3)
Last Week's Rank - 6
The league's leading scorer always is going to attract MVP votes. But Durant's efficiency isn't strong -- he ranks 23rd, 10 spots behind Elton Brand and five behind Roy Hibbert ? and his assists average is the lowest of his career. He has passed for more than four in a game yet.
7. Kobe Bryant, Lakers (7-1)
Last Week's Rank - 1
Bryant needed 32 shots (making 11) to get there, but in the loss at Denver he scored a season-best 34 points and became the youngest player to reach 26,000 in a career. His 32 years, 80 days beat Wilt Chamberlain by 34 days.
8. Dwight Howard, Magic (5-2)
Last Week's Rank - 7
Howard is scoring at a career-best pace and, with 58 percent accuracy on his field goals, is on track to outshoot himself from the foul line for the fourth time in seven seasons. But eight guys have had more double-doubles so far. Also, Orlando's last three opponents shot a combined 48.4 percent, which would rank among the league's worst. That isn't what Orlando or their two-time Defensive Player of the Year have come to expect.
9. Dirk Nowitzki, Mavericks (5-2)
Last Week's Rank - 5
It's not that Nowitzki played himself down in the rankings, it's just that last week was a special case with very strict criteria. Nowitzki this week sparked the Mavericks to victories over Boston and Memphis, and even on his 6-of-14 shooting night vs. the Grizzlies, he had a double-double (12 points, 10 boards) in less than 30 minutes.
10. Monta Ellis, Warriors (6-3)
Last Week's Rank - 5
Truth be told, the committee was prepared to slot in Dwyane Wade here until his almost listless performance against Boston Thursday night. He followed up games of 26, 28, 29 and 39 points with just eight as the Heat seemed stumped for way to get Wade and James going simultaneously. Ellis, on a downer night for Golden State (brutal loss at Chicago on tail end of road back-to-backs), still got his (24) for the 6-3 Warriors. Luis Scola, Al Horford or Millsap all might grab this rung if they keep playing as they have with sufficient team results.
Notice 4 of the top 5 are point guards
I'm not saying that this is how the list is gunna look by season's end but it's just interesting to notice.
1. Chris Paul, Hornets (7-0)
Last Week's Rank - 2
Now the NBA is down to one unbeaten team and Paul primarily is responsible, with his play and with his leadership. His stats weren't breathtaking in victories over Miami, Milwaukee and the Clippers, though he did get the compliment of seeing the Bucks' 6-foot-8 Luc Mbah a Moute assigned to him as Milwaukee coach Scott Skiles sought ways to cut down on Paul's passing lanes and otherwise pester him. "The goal is to not let him get in the paint," Skiles said. "But that's every team's goal."
2. Deron Williams, Jazz (5-3)
Last Week's Rank --
What did Williams do this week, besides boosting himself close to Paul in MVP consideration the way those two split so many best-PG debates? He had 30 points and seven assists against the Clippers, 21 and 14 at Miami and 30 and 14 at Orlando. Utah wound up with two victories in overtime, two on a dreaded back-to-back in Florida and all three as the result of terrific comebacks. (Special mention in the MVP teammate category: Paul Millsap averaged 31.3 points and nine boards, while shooting 61 percent in the three games.)
3. Pau Gasol, Lakers (8-1)
Last Week's Rank - 8
Gasol is averaging 2.5 fewer points than Bryant but he has a big lead in rebounds (11.8 to 5.4) and is even leading his backcourt pal in assists (a team-high 4.4 to Bryant's 4.3). The Western Conference's player of the week in Week 2, Gasol is averaging two fewer shots than Bryant but one more "make," thaks to 52.9 percent shooting (Bryant is at 42.2). And while he sputtered in the loss at Denver Thursday (6-of-17), the lanky Spaniard still finished with 17 points and 20 rebounds.
4. Rajon Rondo, Celtics (7-2)
Last Week's Rank - 3
In about 82 minutes against the Miami Heat, spread across two meetings, the Celtics point guard has passed for 33 assists with only six turnovers. His overall ratio is nearly as good -- 134 to 35 -- and he has set up 15 or more Boston baskets six times in nine games.
5. Derrick Rose, Bulls (4-3)
Last Week's Rank --
If not for Gasol, this could have been an all-point guard Top 5. Rose ranks fourth among all NBA players at 37.0 in combined points, rebounds and assists. He is as vital to the Bulls as Paul and Williams are to their clubs, had Chicago winning the games it was supposed to in advance of a grueling road stretch and ? save for his 45.5 percent shooting decline -- shows the results of a busy but dedicated summer.
6. Kevin Durant, Thunder (4-3)
Last Week's Rank - 6
The league's leading scorer always is going to attract MVP votes. But Durant's efficiency isn't strong -- he ranks 23rd, 10 spots behind Elton Brand and five behind Roy Hibbert ? and his assists average is the lowest of his career. He has passed for more than four in a game yet.
7. Kobe Bryant, Lakers (7-1)
Last Week's Rank - 1
Bryant needed 32 shots (making 11) to get there, but in the loss at Denver he scored a season-best 34 points and became the youngest player to reach 26,000 in a career. His 32 years, 80 days beat Wilt Chamberlain by 34 days.
8. Dwight Howard, Magic (5-2)
Last Week's Rank - 7
Howard is scoring at a career-best pace and, with 58 percent accuracy on his field goals, is on track to outshoot himself from the foul line for the fourth time in seven seasons. But eight guys have had more double-doubles so far. Also, Orlando's last three opponents shot a combined 48.4 percent, which would rank among the league's worst. That isn't what Orlando or their two-time Defensive Player of the Year have come to expect.
9. Dirk Nowitzki, Mavericks (5-2)
Last Week's Rank - 5
It's not that Nowitzki played himself down in the rankings, it's just that last week was a special case with very strict criteria. Nowitzki this week sparked the Mavericks to victories over Boston and Memphis, and even on his 6-of-14 shooting night vs. the Grizzlies, he had a double-double (12 points, 10 boards) in less than 30 minutes.
10. Monta Ellis, Warriors (6-3)
Last Week's Rank - 5
Truth be told, the committee was prepared to slot in Dwyane Wade here until his almost listless performance against Boston Thursday night. He followed up games of 26, 28, 29 and 39 points with just eight as the Heat seemed stumped for way to get Wade and James going simultaneously. Ellis, on a downer night for Golden State (brutal loss at Chicago on tail end of road back-to-backs), still got his (24) for the 6-3 Warriors. Luis Scola, Al Horford or Millsap all might grab this rung if they keep playing as they have with sufficient team results.
Notice 4 of the top 5 are point guards
I'm not saying that this is how the list is gunna look by season's end but it's just interesting to notice.
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The New Orleans are 8-0, due to Chris Paul hunger to be the best in the league (again)
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I actually just forgot about Harris. He's surely better than Davis at this point, and should probably be in Tier 5.
I forgot plenty of players, really.
Tier rankings are pretty beneficial. I rarely read anything from Simmons, but I guess I subconsciously stole the idea from those huge lists he does before the season (I think).
I forgot plenty of players, really.
Tier rankings are pretty beneficial. I rarely read anything from Simmons, but I guess I subconsciously stole the idea from those huge lists he does before the season (I think).
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I actually just forgot about Harris. He's surely better than Davis at this point, and should probably be in Tier 5.
I forgot plenty of players, really.
Tier rankings are pretty beneficial. I rarely read anything from Simmons, but I guess I subconsciously stole the idea from those huge lists he does before the season (I think).
I forgot plenty of players, really.
Tier rankings are pretty beneficial. I rarely read anything from Simmons, but I guess I subconsciously stole the idea from those huge lists he does before the season (I think).
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he plays for the enemy but i really like watching Rondo play.
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he plays for the enemy but i really like watching Rondo play.
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Tier 1: The exemplar
Chris Paul
Tier 2: Young and great
Rajon Rondo
Deron Williams
Tier 3: Young and good
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
John Wall
Stephen Curry
Tier 3.5: Great greybeards
Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Tier 3.6: Her husband
Tony Parker
Tier 3.7: Good greybeards
Chauncey Billups
Andre Miller
Tier 5: Youngish and averageish (I want to call this Youngish Non-Difference Makers, but for the sake of a ton of backlash...)
Brandon Jennings
Jameer Nelson
Mike Conley
Aaron Brooks
Darren Collison
Raymond Felton
Jrue Holliday
D.J. Augustin
Tier 6: Devin Harris
Devin Harris
Tier 7: I remember that guy
Baron Davis
Tier 8: The best awful point guard ever
Derek Fisher
Tier 9: LOL, JPZ
Jonny Flynn
Ricky Rubio
I feel better about this one.
Chris Paul
Tier 2: Young and great
Rajon Rondo
Deron Williams
Tier 3: Young and good
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
John Wall
Stephen Curry
Tier 3.5: Great greybeards
Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Tier 3.6: Her husband
Tony Parker
Tier 3.7: Good greybeards
Chauncey Billups
Andre Miller
Tier 5: Youngish and averageish (I want to call this Youngish Non-Difference Makers, but for the sake of a ton of backlash...)
Brandon Jennings
Jameer Nelson
Mike Conley
Aaron Brooks
Darren Collison
Raymond Felton
Jrue Holliday
D.J. Augustin
Tier 6: Devin Harris
Devin Harris
Tier 7: I remember that guy
Baron Davis
Tier 8: The best awful point guard ever
Derek Fisher
Tier 9: LOL, JPZ
Jonny Flynn
Ricky Rubio
I feel better about this one.
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Tier 1: The exemplar
Chris Paul
Tier 2: Young and great
Rajon Rondo
Deron Williams
Tier 3: Young and good
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
John Wall
Stephen Curry
Tier 3.5: Great greybeards
Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Tier 3.6: Her husband
Tony Parker
Tier 3.7: Good greybeards
Chauncey Billups
Andre Miller
Tier 5: Youngish and averageish (I want to call this Youngish Non-Difference Makers, but for the sake of a ton of backlash...)
Brandon Jennings
Jameer Nelson
Mike Conley
Aaron Brooks
Darren Collison
Raymond Felton
Jrue Holliday
D.J. Augustin
Tier 6: Devin Harris
Devin Harris
Tier 7: I remember that guy
Baron Davis
Tier 8: The best awful point guard ever
Derek Fisher
Tier 9: LOL, JPZ
Jonny Flynn
Ricky Rubio
I feel better about this one.
Chris Paul
Tier 2: Young and great
Rajon Rondo
Deron Williams
Tier 3: Young and good
Derrick Rose
Russell Westbrook
John Wall
Stephen Curry
Tier 3.5: Great greybeards
Steve Nash
Jason Kidd
Tier 3.6: Her husband
Tony Parker
Tier 3.7: Good greybeards
Chauncey Billups
Andre Miller
Tier 5: Youngish and averageish (I want to call this Youngish Non-Difference Makers, but for the sake of a ton of backlash...)
Brandon Jennings
Jameer Nelson
Mike Conley
Aaron Brooks
Darren Collison
Raymond Felton
Jrue Holliday
D.J. Augustin
Tier 6: Devin Harris
Devin Harris
Tier 7: I remember that guy
Baron Davis
Tier 8: The best awful point guard ever
Derek Fisher
Tier 9: LOL, JPZ
Jonny Flynn
Ricky Rubio
I feel better about this one.
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KLJ I like what you are doing with that list with the categories, but theres something I dont quite understand. I dont get how you can rank the players in tier three (young and good) better than Kidd, Nash and Billups. We are still talking about RIGHT NOW correct? Not the future?
Yes the three in your greybeard category are past their primes and declining slightly.....but there is no way in hell you can tell me that John Wall is better right now than those three. I would actually argue that the other three in your 3rd tier should be behind the greybeards too, but I can understand the argument. But there is no way John Wall is better than Nash, Kidd and Billups. Sorry.
Yes the three in your greybeard category are past their primes and declining slightly.....but there is no way in hell you can tell me that John Wall is better right now than those three. I would actually argue that the other three in your 3rd tier should be behind the greybeards too, but I can understand the argument. But there is no way John Wall is better than Nash, Kidd and Billups. Sorry.
