The Official NBA Season Thread: Las Vegas Summer League

[storm2006]

MVP and number list debates in sports (perhaps in general) are so silly. It’s basically “You arewrong! My arbitrary, subjective opinion is better than yours!!” There really isn’t any crystal clear cut criteria and we all have our personal biases that affect our pick/lists, voters for these awards included.

Also the Nuggets championship conversation is acting like great players/MVPs not winning a championship is some novel concept. Guys like Jokic, Chris Paul, Harden, Embiid, etc aren’t winning because they are getting packed up by Top 15 of all-time players like Bron, Steph, KD, Giannis. That’s not so much an indictment on them as it is just the fact they are going up against some of the best players to ever pick up a basketball and they are just not that which is okay. Everyone can’t historically be him.

 

[B Sox]

Russ gets past the first round? As the guy? That’s news to me.

 

[rolaholic]

Dudes really get paid millions not to follow the league outside of the stars and top teams

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Guys like Jokic, Chris Paul, Harden, Embiid, etc aren’t winning because they are getting packed up by Top 15 of all-time players like Bron, Steph, KD, Giannis. That’s not so much an indictment on them as it is just the fact they are going up against some of the best players to ever pick up a basketball and they are just not that which is okay. Everyone can’t historically be him.

A 3x MVP aint him? Quite a take

 

[elpablo21]

Shaq doesn't follow anyone in the top 10 either

 

[illicit305]

how much more help will Embiid need?

 

[dman14]

Dudes really get paid millions not to follow the league outside of the stars and top teams

Shaq put in more time DJing than following the league.

 

[illicit305]

yeah ima be honest, i get more insight on NT than any "analyst" and that says everything

 

[datznasty]

Shaq has 3 different products in Office Depot. 3 different lifesized cardboard cutouts of Shaq in the store. Epson printers, his own line of office chairs, and i forget the 3rd but I believe he has so many endorsements he doesnt even keep track of them anymore. Mans will put his name on anything for the check

 

[storm2006]

A 3x MVP aint him? Quite a take

You clearly ignited this disingenuous Jokic conversation today because you are rooting for him to win MVP and not make it to or win the Finals so you can mock everyone who has praised him in here. You don’t believe Jokic is him so why even pose that question?

Even “him” is a subjective term so what are we really doing here

 

[elpablo21]

Shaq has 3 different products in Office Depot. 3 different lifesized cardboard cutouts of Shaq in the store. Epson printers, his own line of office chairs, and i forget the 3rd but I believe he has so many endorsements he doesnt even keep track of them anymore. Mans will put his name on anything for the check

Posted in the Popeyes thread but one of his chicken spots landed in my area a few months ago. Didn't even know it was his franchise

 

[B Sox]

Can someone explain what the expectations are for Embiid?

 

[finallyfamous]

 

[wavycrocket]

I remember when putting up big numbers in the regular season & winning under 50 games, while getting packed up in the second round was a laughable offense.... Now you the best player in the league when you do it

Any reason you use the Russ gif? Cuz he damn sure ain’t even do that.

 

[waukeganwill]

I swear one day there was a commercial break and I saw Shaq on like 3-4 different ads.

Papa Johns, The General, Icy Hot, and Frosted Flakes.

Aint a contract that man has seen and aint like

 

[storm2006]

Can someone explain what the expectations are for Embiid?

This is coming from someone who likes the Sixers but with Doc and Officer Jim I realistically see their ceiling as the ECF. Can’t really expect a team to get further than that if one of your Top 3 players (Harden) and coach are routinely postseason choke artists.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

You clearly ignited this disingenuous Jokic conversation today because you are rooting for him to win MVP and not make it to or win the Finals so you can mock everyone who has praised him in here. You don’t believe Jokic is him so why even pose that question?

Even “him” is a subjective term so what are we really doing here

I believe he's as good as everyone says he is. Which is what makes it hard to understand why nobody expects anything from him. The more accolades he receives the lower the bar drops. It's strange

 

[VARNELL HILL]

We give the chaos agents too much power here. It's way too easy for them to come in and drop troll grenades.

 

[wavycrocket]

Shaq & Snoop Dogg are inescapable. Especially Snoop

 

[lovehateself]

Can someone explain what the expectations are for Embiid?

to not ugly-cry in may

 

[finallyfamous]

Shaq and Snoop.

Two absolute legends.

I would love to see their bank accounts with the payrolls for all the companies.

 

[WASHED KING]

We give the chaos agents too much power here. It's way to easy for them to come in and drop troll grenades.

I concur

 

[lawdog1]

I swear one day there was a commercial break and I saw Shaq on like 3-4 different ads.

Papa Johns, The General, Icy Hot, and Frosted Flakes.

Aint a contract that man has seen and aint like

Shaq & Snoop Dogg are inescapable. Especially Snoop

Yes. I bet if you add up all the endorsement deals those two have, probably in the 100s.

 

[Mark Antony]

Dudes gonna do crazy numbers with white women in 2023.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

What exactly is disingenuous about saying Jokic should be good enough to win a championship? Yall are weird