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So is Davion Mitchell, Tyrese Hailburton, etc.
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He just had 50 in close out game. 2x MVP and champion at 26 is as elite as it gets.
he makes enough mid range jumpers. He makes enough 3s. Obviously those are the shot you want him taking but as long as he makes a few and doesn’t bail you out, he’s great.
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As dominant as Shaq was, his teams were getting swept literally almost every season at some point.
Kobe grew up, Phil came over & the rest was history. Kobe was also the leading scorer in quite a few of those West playoff series.
Shaq’s team accomplishments are obviously a testament to him….. they’re also a testament to Kobe & Phil…. And Robert Horry
Looking at the pressure both of them put on the rim, I don’t see an issue with the comp. Far worse comparisons have been made
Kobe grew up, Phil came over & the rest was history. Kobe was also the leading scorer in quite a few of those West playoff series.
Shaq’s team accomplishments are obviously a testament to him….. they’re also a testament to Kobe & Phil…. And Robert Horry
Looking at the pressure both of them put on the rim, I don’t see an issue with the comp. Far worse comparisons have been made
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Everybody has a weakness. Giannis isn’t going to become a 40% 3pt shooter. But he’ll get better at the margins of his game and refine as he aged accordingly. Shoot, we saw him hit 17/19 FTs when it mattered the most. In a game 6, in an NBA finals.
He’s in his prime right now. Those are the margins he will get better at. Like becoming a 70 something percent free throw shooter. Developing a safety valve jumper to not pick up charges. Floaters etc. those little things, will make him a better player. And you can see the path to that. He’s Elite already. A 50 ball, is a 50 ball. Idk how ugly it looks.
30/13/5 in a playoff run to a chip is crazy.
35/13/5 in a finals run is dumb.
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Almost more intrigued by Sengun than Jalen Green
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Can't forget about the great Todd MacCullough
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Nobody is asking him to be a 3 point shooter. He still has improvements to make and that’s all that is said. Midrange, improved free throws, additional offensive moves besides a spin move and so forth are things that will make him even better than he already is.
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So what are you even saying here then? You said Giannis isn’t “elite status”. Right now….but he is. The things you and I mentioned are things that he can add to his game that will make him a better basketball player.
Every elite player has margins and things like that, that they got better at as they matured. Giannis will be the same way.
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Imagine having the resume Giannis has and NOT being considered "elite status".
Let's do better people.
Let's do better people.
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Lol Giannis already has the accolades of a top 25 player of all time at age 26.
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Again, it's undeniable that Giannis is on his way to Shaq's table. At the same age of 26, Giannis has accomplished more than Shaq had. The age 26 year for Shaq was the lockout season and they had been flaming out against Utah for 2 straight years before getting swept by Duncan/Rob
It's only a matter of time before Giannis gets on Shaq's pedestal. I understand not rushing him though, that's what I was getting at initially
With that said, some of y'all gotta stop spotlighting those trash centers while not mentioning Duncan, Vlade, Webber, Rasheed, Dale Davis (All Star 2000), Mutumbo (DPOY and All NBA 2001), D Rob (All NBA 2001) etc
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Did Shaq need to be a competent jump shooter to be considered elite?
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I faintly remember Miami LeBron getting the Shaq comp that Giannis is getting now.
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watered down NBA. Giannis is playing against fashion models, youtubers, RNB singers and insurance fraud scammers.
that's a step down from plumbers and used car salesmen if you ask me.
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Which goes for literally every player in the league.
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Giannis isnt Shaq and Shaq isn't Giannis. Totally different games, played in totally different eras.
Let's see if Giannis can 3-peat and then we can revisit this topic. But you'd have to be crazy to not consider Giannis elite or a top 3 player.
Let's see if Giannis can 3-peat and then we can revisit this topic. But you'd have to be crazy to not consider Giannis elite or a top 3 player.
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It sounds like you legit haven’t watched Giannis play. “Additional offensive moves besides a spin move”. Stop. He’s one of the most complete players in basketball despite not having a jump shot. I wonder if you’d apply defensive and playmaking abilities to some of your favorite players to call them “not elite”…. Probably not.
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Giannis still young I'd like to see him develop a consistent jump hook. Cut out the running starts and develop a legit post game. He's shown flashes so u know he's capable.
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He made jump hooks. He made 3s. He made mid range jumpers. He showed post moves. All on his way to winning a title.
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