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So because No Man's Sky isn't what people expected, it's trash?

I don't understand this mentality in people that a game either has to be 10/10 or it's "horrible".

By most accounts NMS is engrossing for at least a good chunk of hours.

If you got burned, it's not their fault. Stop pre-ordering games. It's simple.

The negativity the game is receiving is because some of the features that they said would be in the game were not.

How is it not their fault for lying?

Deliver with what you said you were = Happy customer. It's that simple.
Are you serious? It's hard to find a game releasing this generation that doesn't suffer from this. Destiny, The Division, The Order, Rainbow Six, ect, ect. Why is this one singled out?

Because people don't understand how to manage their own expectations. And when something arrives that they built up in their minds to be greater than it is, they blame anyone but themselves. All of these "features" that were cut weren't there on release. The developers themselves said they are treating it as a platform; they will more than likely see the light of day down the road. 

A small developer, who has never made a AAA game, whose last game was Joe Danger, who has been showing very little of their game through previews, whose creator was already starting to do damage control BEFORE the game dropped, and none of that seemed to raise a red flag?

It's like a six year old promised to do your taxes for you, you believed them, you're now getting audited, and now you're blaming the six year old.

Yes, developers should be held accountable for bad games. Absolutely. This isn't a bad game though. It's not the game that was expected. 
 
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I agree with what ESF and Holes is saying even though I believe NMS did mislead people in what it would be offering. Sean Murray said things that simply weren't in the game now if they would come out and say that they will be adding things that Sean Murray did say would be in the game that would be great but I do believe people overhyped that game to extreme proportions. I think Hello Games could've handled this situation way better by being transparent with what plans they may have going forward
 
Oh for sure. The clarity of their overall message is horrible. Again though, a developer that has never had to deal with this before.

And if you get burned, it sucks. I empathize with people. But you have to learn to look for the signs. Even if you don't know what to look for or can't be bothered to, what is the harm in waiting a day or two to see what shakes out?
 
 
So because No Man's Sky isn't what people expected, it's trash?


I don't understand this mentality in people that a game either has to be 10/10 or it's "horrible".


By most accounts NMS is engrossing for at least a good chunk of hours.


If you got burned, it's not their fault. Stop pre-ordering games. It's simple.



The negativity the game is receiving is because some of the features that they said would be in the game were not.


How is it not their fault for lying?


Deliver with what you said you were = Happy customer. It's that simple.

Are you serious? It's hard to find a game releasing this generation that doesn't suffer from this. Destiny, The Division, The Order, Rainbow Six, ect, ect. Why is this one singled out?

Because people don't understand how to manage their own expectations. And when something arrives that they built up in their minds to be greater than it is, they blame anyone but themselves. All of these "features" that were cut weren't there on release. The developers themselves said they are treating it as a platform; they will more than likely see the light of day down the road. 

A small developer, who has never made a AAA game, whose last game was Joe Danger, who has been showing very little of their game through previews, whose creator was already starting to do damage control BEFORE the game dropped, and none of that seemed to raise a red flag?

It's like a six year old promised to do your taxes for you, you believed them, you're now getting audited, and now you're blaming the six year old.

Yes, developers should be held accountable for bad games. Absolutely. This isn't a bad game though. It's not the game that was expected. 
Not sure where you've been. Destiny, Division, order all get **** on for being overhyped and under delivering. And yes features are often not in the final game, but Bungie had built stuff in the past and sort of get a pass. Sean Murray ain't Bungie. A "new" developer can't be Sean Murray flat out lying about a bunch of features that likely were never gonna be on the game, . He could've just said it was a survival game where you visit planets.

Instead we get this

 
You're going to give a pass to a company that has been doing AAA development for 15-20 years, but demand refunds from a developer that is making it's first? Really?

The games I listed do get called out for not delivering on promises. But no one was screaming for refunds. And would they not serve as a warning for future purchases? Nah, let's keep making the same mistake pre-ordeing or buying day one on every release then get mad that a company wasn't truthful.
 
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Oh for sure. The clarity of their overall message is horrible. Again though, a developer that has never had to deal with this before.

And if you get burned, it sucks. I empathize with people. But you have to learn to look for the signs. Even if you don't know what to look for or can't be bothered to, what is the harm in waiting a day or two to see what shakes out?
Nothing wrong with that but I can see why people would feel betrayed or wasted their money I don't necessarily agree with it because the signs were there the way they presented the game with so much mystery is proof of that as well as how small the dev team was even Sean Murray in an interview told people to lower their expectations lol
 
I think I agree with @blakep267  and @GotHolesInMySocks  in that we need to hold developers responsible for their product. I think I just feel a different method is more viable in doing that. I feel like I am coming across as contrarian for the sake of argument when that isn't my intention.  
 
PS Store Sales for this week, via Playstation Lifestyle

Pretty stale, but I am tempted to get Trails of Cold Steel for $20 on PS3...
Innovators Sale (Sale Price, PS+ Price)

PlayStation 4
  • Alcatraz DLC for The Escapists – $1.49, $1.04
  • Aqua Kitty: Milk Mine Defender DX – $3.59, $2.69
  • Back to Bed Game & Dynamic Theme – $5.99, $4.49
  • Beach Buggy Racing – $4.99, $3.99
  • Beyond Eyes – $5.99, $3.74
  • Blue Estate – $3.89, $2.59
  • Color Guardians – $5.99, $4.49
  • Contrast – $5.49, $4.49
  • Corridor Z – $5.59, $4.79
  • Croixleur Sigma – $10.49, $8.99
  • Dangerous Golf – $12.99, $10.99
  • Doki-Doki Universe – $7.49, $5.99
  • Don’t Starve – $5.99, $4.49
  • Drawful 2 – $5.99, $4.99
  • Dreamals: Dream Quest – $3.99, $2.99
  • Duct Tapes Are Forever DLC for The Escapists – $2.24, $1.56
  • Electronic Super Joy – $3.99, $2.99
  • Enter the Gungeon – $10.49, $8.99
  • Escape Plan – $5.99, $4.49
  • Escape Team DLC for The Escapists – $2.24, $1.56
  • Fibbage – $2.79, $2.09
  • Flockers – $9.99, $6.24
  • Flower – $2.79, $2.09
  • Fluster Cluck – $3.99, $2.99
  • Guns, Gore & Cannoli – $4.99, $3.99
  • Hyper Void – $5.99, $4.99
  • Invisible, Inc – $11.99, $9.99
  • Ironcast – $9.74, $8.24
  • Kholat – $11.99, $9.99
  • KillAllZombies – $6.99, $5.59
  • Letter Quest Remastered – $6.99, $4.99
  • LOOT Strategy Packed Bundle – $9.99, $7.49
  • Mega Coin Squad – $7.49, $5.99
  • Minutes – $4.79, $3.19
  • Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae – $8.39, $7.19
  • Neon Chrome – $9.74, $8.24
  • Oddworld New n Tasty ‘Alf’s Escape Mission’ – $1.57, $1.22
  • OlliOlli – $5.19, $3.89
  • Outlast – $7.99, $5.99
  • Party Hard – $9.09, $7.79
  • Penarium – $4.99, $3.99
  • Pure Chess – $3.99, $3.19
  • Pure Hold’em World Poker Championship – $12.99, $10.99
  • Pure Pool – $9.99, $7.99
  • Rack n Ruin – $3.99, $2.99
  • Republique – $12.49, $9.99
  • Retro City Rampage DX – $4.99, $3.99
  • Riptide GP2 – $3.49, $2.79
  • Risk of Rain – $6.99, $5.99
  • Rock Boshers DX: Director’s Cut – $2.79, $2.09
  • Rocketbirds 2: Evolution – $13.99, $11.99
  • Schrodinger’s Cat and the Raiders of the Lost Quark – $3.99, $2.49
  • Score Rush Extended – $8.39, $7.19
  • Shadwen – $11.89, $10.19
  • She Wants Me Dead – $5.59, $4.79
  • Soul Axiom – $13.99, $11.99
  • Sparkle 2 – $3.99, $3.19
  • Sparkle Doublepack – $5.59, $4.19
  • Sparkle Unleashed – $3.99, $3.19
  • Stick it to the Man – $9.99, $7.99
  • Tennis in the Face – $1.99, $1.49
  • The Banner Saga Complete Pack – $27.99, $23.99
  • The Escapists – $7.99, $5.99
  • The Escapists: The Walking Dead – $9.99, $6.99
  • The Jackbox Party Bundle – $22.49, $17.99
  • The Park – $9.09, $7.79
  • There Came an Echo – $7.49, $5.99
  • The Unfinished Swan – $5.99, $4.49
  • The Witness – $27.99, $23.99
  • Tiny Troopers Joint Ops – $3.19, $2.39
  • Trine 2: Complete Story – $9.99, $5.99
  • Trine 3: The Artifacts of Power – $10.49, $6.59
  • Trine Bundle – $11.99, $8.99
  • Trine Trilogy – $14.99, $11.99
  • VEV: Viva Ex Vivo – $3.49, $2.99
  • VEV: Viva Ex Vivo Basic Bundle – $6.99, $5.99
  • VEV: Viva Ex Vivo Complete Bundle – $11.19, $9.59
  • Videoball – $6.99, $5.99
  • Whispering Willows Game & Theme – $4.99, $3.74
  • Zen Pinball 2: Core Collection – $4.99, $3.99
PlayStation 3
  • Atomic Ninjas: Complete Edition – $3.19, $2.39
  • Back to Bed Game & Dynamic Theme – $5.99, $4.49
  • Contrast – $3.99, $2.99
  • Dead Nation – $3.99, $3.19
  • Doki-Doki Universe – $7.49, $5.99
  • Don’t Starve: Giant Edition – $5.99, $4.49
  • Fibbage – $2.79, $2.09
  • Final Exam – $2.49, $1.49
  • Flower – $2.79, $2.09
  • Giana Sisters: Twisted Dreams – $5.99, $4.49
  • Hustle Kings – $4.99, $3.99
  • Hyper Void – $5.99, $4.99
  • Jet Car Stunts – $3.19, $2.39
  • Knytt Underground – $3.99, $2.99
  • Never Alone – $5.99, $4.49
  • Oddworld: Munch’s Oddysee HD – $4.49, $3.49
  • Oddworld: Stranger’s Wrath HD – $6.74, $5.24
  • OlliOlli – $5.19, $3.89
  • Pure Chess Complete Bundle – $5.99, $4.49
  • Q*Bert Rebooted – $4.99, $3.99
  • Retro City Rampage DX – $4.99, $3.99
  • Rotastic – $2.99, $2.49
  • Slender: The Arrival – $4.99, $3.99
  • Sparkle 2 – $3.99, $3.19
  • Sparkle Doublepack – $5.59, $4.19
  • Sparkle Unleashed – $3.99, $3.19
  • Stick it to the Man – $6.49, $5.19
  • Tennis in the Face – $1.99, $1.49
  • The Jackbox Party Bundle – $22.49, $17.99
  • The Unfinished Swan – $5.99, $4.49
  • Tiny Troopers Joint Ops – $3.19, $2.39
  • Tokyo Jungle – $7.49, $5.99
  • Trine – $4.99, $2.99
  • Zen Pinball 2: Core Collection – $4.99, $3.99
PlayStation Vita
  • Aqua Kitty: Milk Mine Defender DX – $3.59, $2.69
  • Back to Bed Game & Dynamic Theme – $5.99, $4.49
  • Boss! – $1.99, $1.49
  • Color Guardians – $5.99, $4.49
  • Corridor Z – $5.59, $4.79
  • Croixleur Sigma – $10.49, $8.99
  • Dead Nation – $3.99, $3.19
  • Doki-Doki Universe – $7.49, $5.99
  • Don’t Starve: Giant Edition – $5.99, $4.49
  • Escape Plan – $5.99, $4.49
  • Flower – $2.79, $2.09
  • Furmins – $2.99, $2.39
  • Hustle Kings – $4.99, $3.99
  • Jet Car Stunts – $3.19, $2.39
  • Knytt Underground – $3.99, $2.99
  • Kung Fu Rabbit – $3.49, $2.99
  • Let’s Fish! Hooked On – $3.99, $2.99
  • Letter Quest Remastered – $6.99, $4.99
  • Men’s Room Mayhem – $0.79, $0.59
  • Minutes – $4.79, $3.19
  • NekoBuro Cats Block – $1.99, $1.59
  • OlliOlli – $5.19, $3.89
  • OlliOlli 2: Welcome to Olliwood – $7.49, $5.99
  • Puddle – $5.59, $4.79
  • Pure Chess Complete Bundle – $5.99, $4.49
  • Pure Chess – $4.79, $3.99
  • Q*Bert Rebooted – $4.99, $3.99
  • Retro City Rampage DX – $4.99, $3.99
  • Risk of Rain – $6.99, $5.99
  • Rock Boshers DX: Director’s Cut – $2.79, $2.09
  • Rocketbirds 2: Evolution – $13.99, $11.99
  • Severed – $10.49, $8.99
  • Sparkle 2 – $3.99, $3.19
  • Sparkle Doublepack – $5.59, $4.19
  • Sparkle Unleashed – $3.99, $3.19
  • Table Top Racing – $1.19, $0.89
  • Tennis in the Face – $1.99, $1.49
  • The Unfinished Swan – $5.99, $4.49
  • Tiny Troopers Joint Ops – $3.19, $2.39
  • Whispering Willows Game & Theme – $4.99, $3.74
  • Zen Pinball 2: Core Collection – $4.99, $3.99
  • Zombie Tycoon – $1.99, $1.49
  • Z-Run – $4.49, $2.69
PlayStation Portable
  • Retro City Rampage DX – $4.99, $3.99
PlayStation Plus Specials & Deals
  • 7 Days to Die (PS4) – $23.99
  • Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book (PS Vita) – $31.99
  • Atelier Sophie: The Alchemist of the Mysterious Book (PS4) -$47.99
  • Binaries (PS4) – $8.99
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 Digital Deluxe Edition (PS4) – $69.99
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 Gold Edition (PS4) – $44.99
  • Dead Island Definitive Collection (PS4) – $29.99
  • Dead Island Definitive Edition (PS4) – $15.99
  • Dead Island: Riptide Definitive Edition (PS4) – $15.99
  • Deadlight: Director’s Cut (PS4) – $13.99
  • Mirror’s Edge Catalyst (PS4) – $35.99
  • Odin Sphere Leifthrasir (PS3) – $37.49
  • One Piece: Burning Blood (PS4) – $41.99
  • One Piece: Burning Blood (PS Vita) – $27.99
  • One Way Trip (PS4) – $13.49
  • Resident Evil 5 (PS4) – $13.99
  • Shadow Complex Remastered (PS4) – $10.49
  • Shadow of the Beast (PS4) – $13.99
  • Strike Vector EX (PS4) – $10.49
  • Table Top Racing: World Tour ‘Tropical Ice Pack’ (PS4) – $3.99
Other Deals (Sale Price, PS+ Price)
  • Castle of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse (PS3) – $3.74
  • Catlateral Damage (PS4) – $7.49
  • Dungeon Travelers 2: The Royal Library & The Monster Seal (PS Vita) – $23.99
  • Four Sided Fantasy (PS4) – $8.99, $7.99
  • Hue (PS4) – $11.99
  • Lost Dimension (PS3) – $23.99
  • Lost Dimension (PS Vita) – $23.99
  • Tembo the Badass Elephant (PS4) – $9.89
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (PS3) – $19.99
  • The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel (PS Vita) – $19.99
PS4 Pre-Order Deals
  • Dead Rising Triple Pack (September 13) – $49.97
  • Pac-Man Championship Edition 2 (September 13) – $10.39
 
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Does the MGS bundle finish the story? I heard there were missing cutscenes.

Heard in general there is very little story and no boss fights. Makes me wamt to rage just thinking about it. Still have not played.
 
 
PS Store Sales for this week, via Playstation Lifestyle

Pretty stale, but I am tempted to get Trails of Cold Steel for $20 on PS3...
I think I'm going to cop Trails, I'm just debating on whether I should go Vita or PS3.

These sales the last few weeks have been quite underwhelming. It really shouldn't bother me because I should really be playing thru my backlog but I'm still disappointed
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Anybody picking up anything new this month? NBA 2K17 and Forza Horizon 3 for me and maybe some stuff on sale.
 
Yea, good point... I might be more tempted to play it on Vita.

I just picked up Bloodborne almost based solely on the great things said about it in this thread. I think I'll start it tonight, then head out to Walmart to grab a new controller after I smash mine. 
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It shouldn't be too bad. I got the hang of Demon's Souls pretty early on, so hopefully that translates a bit.
 
 
Yea, good point... I might be more tempted to play it on Vita.

I just picked up Bloodborne almost based solely on the great things said about it in this thread. I think I'll start it tonight, then head out to Walmart to grab a new controller after I smash mine. 
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It shouldn't be too bad. I got the hang of Demon's Souls pretty early on, so hopefully that translates a bit.
Just remember to attack first and dodge. Good luck
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