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I think everyone here would acknowledge that there are problems with this thread. I don't think it's fair to blame it, as some have, for all of NikeTalk's supposed ills, but we can't have people in here pretending that the rules don't apply, for example. (Drug talk, porn, piracy, etc. etc.)
It honestly doesn't make sense for people to treat this post as a substitute for the sports forum, music forum, etc. Then it does become overly cliquish, like something people use to AVOID actually interacting with other users and making use of the full site. People in the "Am Fam" thread in the sneaker showcase don't use THAT thread to discuss news, music, and so on. If they did, you'd probably miss out on what those users have to share with you - and that would be a shame. Most users came here, in part, to communicate with people they didn't already know, yet share similar interests.
This thread works when it's efficient, not when it's inefficient/redundant.
We have to answer the following: is it actually a net positive and, more importantly, is it possible to keep the thread while stripping out the aspects of it that ARE counterproductive?
I do think it will help give everyone some perspective if they see how the General forum will function without this thread for a week. Anything shorter than that seems useless, as nobody will be forced to adapt their behavior.
Hopefully we'll just get a better sense of what the relative costs and benefits are to having a "Thread About Nothing." At that point, we can figure out how we can make it better.
Those of you who've chosen "a side" in this are painting it as an all or nothing scenario. It doesn't have to be that way. It's not "well if you're gonna have the thread then it has to be ANYTHING goes" or "all random nonsense deserves its own thread and then we'll let the market decide what's worth keeping on page 1." You'll find a sensible solution somewhere in between, but, to start, we need to better isolate the actual problem.
I don't think that's so unreasonable, nor do I think it's cause for panic.
We already have one group of people overreacting to this thread's very existence. We don't need another group overreacting to the possibility of its temporary absence or modification.
At the end of the day, it's still NikeTalk and you can still interact with all of your friends here regardless.
It honestly doesn't make sense for people to treat this post as a substitute for the sports forum, music forum, etc. Then it does become overly cliquish, like something people use to AVOID actually interacting with other users and making use of the full site. People in the "Am Fam" thread in the sneaker showcase don't use THAT thread to discuss news, music, and so on. If they did, you'd probably miss out on what those users have to share with you - and that would be a shame. Most users came here, in part, to communicate with people they didn't already know, yet share similar interests.
This thread works when it's efficient, not when it's inefficient/redundant.
We have to answer the following: is it actually a net positive and, more importantly, is it possible to keep the thread while stripping out the aspects of it that ARE counterproductive?
I do think it will help give everyone some perspective if they see how the General forum will function without this thread for a week. Anything shorter than that seems useless, as nobody will be forced to adapt their behavior.
Hopefully we'll just get a better sense of what the relative costs and benefits are to having a "Thread About Nothing." At that point, we can figure out how we can make it better.
Those of you who've chosen "a side" in this are painting it as an all or nothing scenario. It doesn't have to be that way. It's not "well if you're gonna have the thread then it has to be ANYTHING goes" or "all random nonsense deserves its own thread and then we'll let the market decide what's worth keeping on page 1." You'll find a sensible solution somewhere in between, but, to start, we need to better isolate the actual problem.
I don't think that's so unreasonable, nor do I think it's cause for panic.
We already have one group of people overreacting to this thread's very existence. We don't need another group overreacting to the possibility of its temporary absence or modification.
At the end of the day, it's still NikeTalk and you can still interact with all of your friends here regardless.
