the thread about nothing...

[Methodical Management]

Edit: The more Ninja post about this thread the more I feel like it's a personal crusade now. Like others have posted about the negatives this thread does have and it's given out respectfully and some posters have even thrown out solutions of their own to better NT and better this thread....except Ninja

I think you can question ninjahood's presentation and his intentions, but he wasn't the first person to make that complaint, nor was he the first person to voice it THIS WEEK.  

There are some aspects of the thread that can be improved, and it should be easier for EVERYONE to gain some perspective on the matter once we've had a few days of breathing room.  Then, we can get a better idea of how General (and other forums) will flow without this thread in place and, when we regroup, we can have a stronger concept of what it does well and where it could use improvement.  

There's been plenty of overreacting on this "side" of the argument, too, and I don't think there's anything to be gained by turning this into a melodrama.  

We're going to figure out the problem together and then work towards a solution that benefits the COMMUNITY - not just one particular "interest group."  Everyone can be involved in that discussion and everyone interested will hopefully be part of the solution as well.  

This prob wont happen, but its a good idea. It'd had to be someone who's here everyday and reads most of the pages, I know I read every post, I dont think I've ever skipped one. Probably wouldnt be me though if it happens.

And this is my point:  we don't need one of you to save the thread.  ALL of us working together are stronger and more capable than any one person individually.

If it's something you value, it stands to reason that you can take part in caring for it and improving it.  

As it stands, it's been neglected and, at times, misused to the point where others can easily find fault with it.  

 

[laker4lifeman]

Que paso?

 

[carver]

How come no ones complaining about the TAN thread in the Music section, though...

 

[rusty shackelford]

"Dudes fear what they don't understand, hate what they can't conquer
Guess it's just the fury of man"

 

[bombbiggidyphil]

 

[Peep Game]

How come no ones complaining about the TAN thread in the Music section, though...

It's not nearly as active as this one, that's the only thing i can think of

 

[cocotaso1]

I think we should have a mod/admin monitor this thread. One of our own.



da

that sounds like a good idea.

also we do need to chill on some of the stuff that we decide to bring up in here, i mean at the end of the day it's still niketalk.

i suppose im not blameless, but lets not act like this thread is the only one guilty of reaching or flat out violating.

Of course it's not but that doesnt benefit this thread from staying open if all we do is point fingers and say "well they're doing it too"

That's not the validation we should want to garner

no you are absolutely correct. and i hesitated to even say something like that. i mentioned it more in order to understand the standards that are being applied.

 

[coldcity]

How come no ones complaining about the TAN thread in the Music section, though...

It's not nearly as active as this one, that's the only thing i can think of

im sure once reptile gets his way he will say they all should be locked on principle since the 1st one was locked & they all are systematically bringing the good content outta da general which is da best section on NT

"Dudes fear what they don't understand, hate what they can't conquer
Guess it's just the fury of man"

+1

 

[mmg]

No offense meth I don't see why locking the thread for a week is gonna solve anything, your just catering to one side of the argument at hand when you yourself has stated that this thread isn't effecting general.

 

[coldcity]

No offense meth I don't see why locking the thread for a week is gonna solve anything, your just catering to one side of the argument at hand when you yourself has stated that this thread isn't effecting general.

+1

 

[durden7]

If there was no TAN, id have to make a whole new post to tell people that I went 0-2 with 2 Ks in my first fall baseball game this year.

No one wants that thread.

But really though, 0-2 today.

 

[cocotaso1]

made a thread about this last night, thought it was pretty funny. uncle rudy talkin that real talk, ride out to this.

 

[Methodical Management]

No offense meth I don't see why locking the thread for a week is gonna solve anything, your just catering to one side of the argument at hand when you yourself has stated that this thread isn't effecting general.

I've stated that it hasn't resulted in less overall posting activity.  

We don't know yet what the impact will be on topic creation, etc.  

Let's be honest:  there ARE some real problems with this thread.  It was almost locked a month or so back when people tried to take it on a porn tangent.  It's a real resource drag to sort through 3,000 pages to find inappropriate tangents whereas it IS very easy to remove an inappropriate thread from the forums.  

That stuff needs to be fixed.  

Removing the thread for a week will hopefully achieve the following: 

1) Users opposed to the thread can shut up for awhile, which we'll all enjoy.

2) Users who support the thread will hopefully appreciate it more, so they'll be willing to accept some responsibility for its upkeep.

3) Hopefully users who frequent this thread will spend some time outside of it and will make better use of the WHOLE site.  Using this thread to discuss music, sports, and shoes is not acceptable, honestly.  The rules still apply.  

If new topic creation occurs, GREAT.  I'm not going to hold that AGAINST this thread, however.  Quite the contrary.  If those who frequent this thread use the time proving that they just want to make POSITIVE contributions to our forums, then you're even better poised to help resolve the source of the complaints about this thread and repair it.  It's about balance.  If "thread about nothing" users are perceived as being "elitist," that they can't/won't play nice with others, then you're just feeding that us vs. them mentality.  Proving that we're all in this together is a step in the right direction.  

If I leave the thread as is, there's no incentive or imperative to fix it.  

Users who hate this thread don't get to "have their way" just because it's down for a week.  They want it gone for good.  Their only argument, at this point, is that it's "draining" the forum of quality threads.  As long as the thread exists, they can keep on saying that.  There's no way to isolate the actual problem unless we suspend the thread.  

When we regroup, we can work on revising the way this thread works so as to retain whatever benefits people observed during its absence.  Maybe that involves laying down some clearer guidelines regarding what is/isn't appropriate for this post.  Maybe some users who participate in this thread and find something topic-worthy will choose to share it with the forum in general and can link to that thread to better distribute the discussion.  Whatever the case may be, we'll have the opportunity to solve the problem.  

If we DON'T take that one week break first, however, no changes you make will satisfy the critics because they'll always claim that things could be better still if the thread were removed entirely.  

 

[jordanscrub]

+1

+2

I don't even come in here that much but this thread has ZERO negative impact.

 

[trilluminated]

uncle rudy dropping that OG knowledge.. 

 

[ninjahood]

How come no ones complaining about the TAN thread in the Music section, though...

because people are actually PROactive on making thread about particular albums/artist/songs instead of jumbling it up in one massive random thread.

nothing in that thread isnt being already discussed in their respective threads.

 

[mmg]

I understand what your saying meth, but this isn't gonna make me/us post more :\

The way I see it, ninjahood is just a child yelling at the top of his lungs in Walmart and your being his parent and giving him what he wants just so he can shut up :\

 

[Nawzlew]

IN OTHER NEWS.


Damn, Heidi Klum looked good.

As did Nina Dobrev.

 

[ninjahood]

If there was no TAN, id have to make a whole new post to tell people that I went 0-2 with 2 Ks in my first fall baseball game this year.

No one wants that thread.

But really though, 0-2 today.

or you can actually stop being lazy and PARTICIPATE in da sports section of niketalk already in progress.

 

[bombbiggidyphil]

Saw Total Recall...meh. nipples were a nice surprise though...thought they covered them up for this one.

 

[tr1ll]

I feel like locking this thread for a short period of time is really going to work. People aren't going to post any new topics just to prove a point.

 

[rusty shackelford]

Ninja ....

 

[elpablo21]

If there was no TAN, id have to make a whole new post to tell people that I went 0-2 with 2 Ks in my first fall baseball game this year.

No one wants that thread.

But really though, 0-2 today.

or you can actually stop being lazy and PARTICIPATE in da sports section of niketalk already in progress.

How do you know he doesnt participate in S&T? based off this one post? You can't be serious...he's lazy because of that?

So is S&T falling off now too?

Oh god...what have we done....the entire existence of NT is on the  verge of collapse now...not just General

 

[mmg]

love that gif pabs

 

[trilluminated]

we're sitting behind a computer all day though..

wouldn't that make all of us lazy?