The Ultimate Soccer Thread 2010-2011 VOL. Premier league, La Liga, Serie A & Bundesliga

Mancini is probably pissed.
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Originally Posted by RuffRydya08

My dude, I'm Brazilian, trust me I understand how great the talent level is between us and Mexico in years past.
Pure talent will not help this team right now. As a whole, Brazilians are individualistic people, they don't do well when they are forced to be structured, in anything.

I mean you named all these "proven players" but...

Julio Cesar - Horrible form for about 3 months at Inter this past year
Lucio - probably won't even make the next Cup
Maicon - played well when put in for Alves but everyone knows what Bale did to his form in Europe
Dani Alves - Brutal at the Copa
Pato - Nothing, needs to come through in Europe, soon
Ramires - the one name I'll say did nothing to hurt or help himself
Robinho -
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If you don't wanna look down the line and speculate about the future, sure Brazil and Argentina are world powers and no one will admit to them being poor sides until they get knocked out in major competitions and everyone knows that they're poor sides. Brazil hasn't played well in about a year. The best team they played in the last year was probably France and to be honest, that game might as well have been a game in the Copa, another uninspiring performance like every game these last 2 weeks. How can you say Mexico slapped around no talent teams when the only times this last year Brazil has looked good has been against the US and Scotland...
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I'm just not waiting for the results to filter in to make my judgements. I believe my eyes and what I saw out of Brazil and Argentina are two seriously, seriously flawed teams, period.
Again, everything you say makes sense, although I think you're being harsh on the players, but you really think JAPAN would "probably" beat Brazil and Argentina right now? What the %+$$ makes you say that? Japan isn't even the best team in Asia, South Korea is probably that. Japan barely beat South Korea's U-23 team in the Asian Cup. It's just totally random and ridiculous to suggest that Japan would be favored in a match against Brazil or Argentina. I can't take the rest of what you say seriously after such an assertion. 
 
Originally Posted by RuffRydya08

My dude, I'm Brazilian, trust me I understand how great the talent level is between us and Mexico in years past.
Pure talent will not help this team right now. As a whole, Brazilians are individualistic people, they don't do well when they are forced to be structured, in anything.

I mean you named all these "proven players" but...

Julio Cesar - Horrible form for about 3 months at Inter this past year
Lucio - probably won't even make the next Cup
Maicon - played well when put in for Alves but everyone knows what Bale did to his form in Europe
Dani Alves - Brutal at the Copa
Pato - Nothing, needs to come through in Europe, soon
Ramires - the one name I'll say did nothing to hurt or help himself
Robinho -
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If you don't wanna look down the line and speculate about the future, sure Brazil and Argentina are world powers and no one will admit to them being poor sides until they get knocked out in major competitions and everyone knows that they're poor sides. Brazil hasn't played well in about a year. The best team they played in the last year was probably France and to be honest, that game might as well have been a game in the Copa, another uninspiring performance like every game these last 2 weeks. How can you say Mexico slapped around no talent teams when the only times this last year Brazil has looked good has been against the US and Scotland...
eyes.gif


I'm just not waiting for the results to filter in to make my judgements. I believe my eyes and what I saw out of Brazil and Argentina are two seriously, seriously flawed teams, period.
Again, everything you say makes sense, although I think you're being harsh on the players, but you really think JAPAN would "probably" beat Brazil and Argentina right now? What the %+$$ makes you say that? Japan isn't even the best team in Asia, South Korea is probably that. Japan barely beat South Korea's U-23 team in the Asian Cup. It's just totally random and ridiculous to suggest that Japan would be favored in a match against Brazil or Argentina. I can't take the rest of what you say seriously after such an assertion. 
 
Originally Posted by Demps

$!%+%%+ vancouver just had to !!*# up any more future europe vs. mls friendlys smfh.


That grass looks horrible
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Hope Toure is alright. Looked to be an ankle injury.
 
Originally Posted by Demps

$!%+%%+ vancouver just had to !!*# up any more future europe vs. mls friendlys smfh.


That grass looks horrible
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Hope Toure is alright. Looked to be an ankle injury.
 
Originally Posted by Curious24

Originally Posted by hpscots0906

Pato is 21 
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and he is pretty darn good. How can anyone say he isn't a potential superstar, or already close to being one?
imo superstars either win the world cup/champions league or multiple championships in their career.  
But the guy is 21? A starting striker on Milan, guess I'm not sure how basically any 21
year old using your logic would be a superstar? He is clearly a potential superstar

Souleymane
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to bad Spurs need some strikers for this year
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Originally Posted by Curious24

Originally Posted by hpscots0906

Pato is 21 
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and he is pretty darn good. How can anyone say he isn't a potential superstar, or already close to being one?
imo superstars either win the world cup/champions league or multiple championships in their career.  
But the guy is 21? A starting striker on Milan, guess I'm not sure how basically any 21
year old using your logic would be a superstar? He is clearly a potential superstar

Souleymane
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to bad Spurs need some strikers for this year
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