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Nash was an elite finisher with both hands too.
THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP
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Don't necessarily disagree. Just saying previous basketball culture held on tight to positions and what each of them needed to do. It's difficult to let go of that until the youth grow up with the new
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I agree. And really I don’t consider Magic a pass first PG. he was a great passer and it made sense for him to defer to KAJ but when he came down to it he could go get you a bucket and will his team to wins. Kidd and Stockton? Nah
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Agreed with your second statement. Tbh I think Nash and Magic were pass first it's just that they could do both and more importantly score in the half court and 1 v 1 situations
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Not a huge fan of Player A v. Player B debates, but arguing Nash versus Kidd seems more worthwhile than “would you sign a LeBron-Hannibal Lecter hybrid to your team?”
As for the question at hand, I’ll just say I enjoyed watching Nash play more.
As for the question at hand, I’ll just say I enjoyed watching Nash play more.
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It's close between Jason Kidd and Steve Nash. The thing that swings it in Kidd's favor is that he was an elite defender for most of his career. For as good as Steve Nash was offensively, he was a net negative on defense because even the worst point guards could consistently the score on him and drive past him (I remember watching Derek Fisher put the ball in the floor and drive right past Steve Nash on many occasions).
Contrast that with Kidd, who was elite on both ends of the court (9 time all-NBA defender).
Side note: it's always boggled my mind how players like Steve Nash or so quick on offense but yet so slow on defense. Is this just an effort thing? Did Steve Nash literally not care about playing defense? Was he saving his energy to fun the offense? Did he just have bad fundamentals and never learned?
Contrast that with Kidd, who was elite on both ends of the court (9 time all-NBA defender).
Side note: it's always boggled my mind how players like Steve Nash or so quick on offense but yet so slow on defense. Is this just an effort thing? Did Steve Nash literally not care about playing defense? Was he saving his energy to fun the offense? Did he just have bad fundamentals and never learned?
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Solutions for remainder of NBA season:
30-Day comeback (this is obviously the most optimistic timeline):
1. Current records are official, just go straight into the playoffs and stick to league calendar with all best of seven series throughout.
2. Play out the full 82, end in mid-May, first and second rounds are best of five, one two-day break for each series. That puts you at essentially where the Finals would have started. Finals end first week of July. Bumps the league calendar back by a few weeks. Not too crazy.
45-day comeback: Current records are official, first round best of five.
60-day comeback: Current records are official, best of five in first two rounds.
I just don't see a scenario where they do best of seven the entire playoffs unless they come back in mid-April and declare the regular season over.
30-Day comeback (this is obviously the most optimistic timeline):
1. Current records are official, just go straight into the playoffs and stick to league calendar with all best of seven series throughout.
2. Play out the full 82, end in mid-May, first and second rounds are best of five, one two-day break for each series. That puts you at essentially where the Finals would have started. Finals end first week of July. Bumps the league calendar back by a few weeks. Not too crazy.
45-day comeback: Current records are official, first round best of five.
60-day comeback: Current records are official, best of five in first two rounds.
I just don't see a scenario where they do best of seven the entire playoffs unless they come back in mid-April and declare the regular season over.
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Guys like Bron and Luka are the same way tbh. Feel like they would rather make the great pass, but they can score if/when needed.
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I like the idea of going back to a best-of-five series for the first round. Honestly, I never really liked going to best-of-seven in the first round in the first place. Most first-round matchups are beatdowns and playing to best-of-seven just extends a series another couple of days.
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The owners ain't trying to loose money.
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I'm legit confused why people keep coming up with schedules when the owners and commissioner already said what they want
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Literally, nobody has ever liked the first round best of 7. It's a money grab that doesn't really pay off. The best teams dominate (sweeps or 4-1 wins), and you're left with crap 7-game series between teams nobody cares about that nobody watches. Make it best of 5, which allows for upsets. That being said, I've always liked Bill Barnwell's idea for the first round: if a team goes up 3-0, the series is over.
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So we be mob for life for real
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Sign me up.
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A best of 5 in the first round makes it easier to see some cool upsets.
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And Centers who protect the rims. Whaaat is the deal? And these Shooting Guards who... shoot? Get that follishness on somewhere, amirite? I need SGs who protect the rim, Centers who run the offense, and forwards who... I don't know, go backwards? Sell popcorn?
I see PGs who pass and I'm all like...
everysingletime
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As long as they don't do episodes on Lebron I'm down
lawdog1
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According to a Clippers fan site I get updates from, PG has been playing Call of Duty.
I assume Kawhi is now in a monitored hypersleep regenerating and having his programming updated.
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NBA, NHL and MLB all competing simultaneously
MLB gonna take a massive hit if that happens.
MLB gonna take a massive hit if that happens.
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Should definitely launch some online series showing how NBA players are dealing with the layoff.
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And Centers who protect the rims. Whaaat is the deal? And these Shooting Guards who... shoot? Get that follishness on somewhere, amirite? I need SGs who protect the rim, Centers who run the offense, and forwards who... I don't know, go backwards? Sell popcorn?
I see PGs who pass and I'm all like...
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Hot Take.
I don't consider Magic a Point Guard.
I view him the same way I view Luka/Ben Simmons/LeBron.
A overgrown, dominant ball-handler with exquisite IQs.
I am of the, "You are what you guard" mentality when it comes to positions.
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How are the local networks with multiple teams going to decide which sport takes precedent? LolNBA, NHL and MLB all competing simultaneously
MLB gonna take a massive hit if that happens.
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