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Arguing just to argue
THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP
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darthska
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You're not wrong, but I just want to point out that this is definitely NOT just Steph.
Same thing with Bron teams. Downplaying others to make sure Bron gets all love, no one else.
Saw it for years on post-Shaq Kobe teams. And some of those teams legit WERE trash, but still, even the championship teams get talked about as subpar by Kobe Stans, so he gets all credit.
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People forget how dominant and electric D12 was after a couple back injuries, some fugazi antics and a couple of rimjob allegations
Was he the last true dominant big?
Was he the last true dominant big?
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These dudes just don’t quit.
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Adding on to what I said before, my personal favorite dynamic about all 3 of those crowds, and all crowds of Stans who go to great lengths to minimize the rest of the team in order to big up their deity is this: They all hate that the other Stans do it and they'll call other Stans out for doing it without realizing that they do it their self. 
Like Steph fans will call out Lebby fans for minimizing Kyrie and Love, then turn around and minimize Klay, Dray, Kerr, and especially the presence of bigs like Bogut.
Actually everyone minimizes bigs, but that's a different topic.
Lebby Stans will clown Kobe Stans for minimizing Pau, Lamar, and all those shooters, then act like Bosh 'n'em were just meh.
They hate the exact thing they do.
Like Steph fans will call out Lebby fans for minimizing Kyrie and Love, then turn around and minimize Klay, Dray, Kerr, and especially the presence of bigs like Bogut.Actually everyone minimizes bigs, but that's a different topic.
Lebby Stans will clown Kobe Stans for minimizing Pau, Lamar, and all those shooters, then act like Bosh 'n'em were just meh.
They hate the exact thing they do.
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doc rivers is a *****
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Dwight was top five between 2008-2012ish.
True athletic, physical presence.
True athletic, physical presence.
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And he wasn't 4, 3, 2, or 5.
I don't know, it seems like everyone else has been saying something like that lately so I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon.
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I can't be friends with people who think Dwight isn't a hall of famer.
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Some clipper love but no warrior predictions
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More clips love but no GSW predictions
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there’s more but y’all get the picture. Not sure if that’s what the discussion was on but The perception of the warriors being loaded and stacked going into 14-15 just didn’t exist. *ducks*
Now what can be argued is that that 14-15 warriors team was indeed loaded, and that people simply got it wrong. I wouldn't disagree with that. But the perception that they were a loaded juggernaut going into that year was far from true.
NBA Crystal Ball picks: Finals, MVP, hot seat and more
With the 2014-15 NBA season almost here, SI.com's hoop experts dished their predictions for the upcoming year, including their Finals picks, MVP selection,
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More clips love but no GSW predictions
2014-15 NBA Expert Predictions
Our staff gives their picks for who will the NBA title, MVP, Rookie of the Year and other awards plus their playoff bracket projections.
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there’s more but y’all get the picture. Not sure if that’s what the discussion was on but The perception of the warriors being loaded and stacked going into 14-15 just didn’t exist. *ducks*
Now what can be argued is that that 14-15 warriors team was indeed loaded, and that people simply got it wrong. I wouldn't disagree with that. But the perception that they were a loaded juggernaut going into that year was far from true.
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Is he, though?
A top?
Asking for... a certain NTer.
shotsrangout
do you care do you comment on Dwight between 2008-2012 as well as Dwight today?
darthska
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For the nihilist in me, there's my problem.
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One of those questions you ask to gauge whether or not you should talk hoop with someone
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Mike Beas always looks chill af and down to earth.
Then he’s the one who had cases of depression. It really be the one you lest suspect
Then he’s the one who had cases of depression. It really be the one you lest suspect
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One of those questions you ask to gauge whether or not you should talk hoop with someone
Pretty much lol
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Draymond Green
3x All-Star
All-NBA 2nd team 2016
All-NBA 3rd team 2017
DPOY 2017
3x NBA All-Defensive 1st team (2015-2017)
2x NBA All-defensive 2nd team (2018-2019)
NBA steals leader 2017
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Because they 'feel' their feelings at a very raw, deep level as opposed to just 'Ah, eff it. Life sucks and ish happens.' They experience the highs just like everyone else, and that's when we see them having a good time with people, laughing, partying and smiling like we saw from Robin Williams and Chester Bennington with his kids the day before he… well, I won't get into that because that's another topic, but... they experience those highs and good times with people. But their lows are catastrophically low, and we don't see that part. We just read about them drugged out and unconscious like Lamar Odom.
These are my people.
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Some clipper love but no warrior predictions
NBA Crystal Ball picks: Finals, MVP, hot seat and more
With the 2014-15 NBA season almost here, SI.com's hoop experts dished their predictions for the upcoming year, including their Finals picks, MVP selection,
More clips love but no GSW predictions
2014-15 NBA Expert Predictions
Our staff gives their picks for who will the NBA title, MVP, Rookie of the Year and other awards plus their playoff bracket projections.
there’s more but y’all get the picture. Not sure if that’s what the discussion was on but The perception of the warriors being loaded and stacked going into 14-15 just didn’t exist. *ducks*
Now what can be argued is that that 14-15 warriors team was indeed loaded, and that people simply got it wrong. I wouldn't disagree with that. But the perception that they were a loaded juggernaut going into that year was far from true.
Yup. And to add to that....Just look at a Slam Top 50, or Sports Illustrated Top 100.....to view how the warriors “stars” were viewed in terms of “TALENT” at the respective times.
Far....Faaaaaaar cry from “Top tier talent”.....that was considered when teams were shuffling the decks and “arm racing” to build championship rosters.
And slam went THERE in 2014...and it’s funny how in the write up, they knew they'd get pushback from putting Steph as top 5, and it was “controversial” then. But looks like they were ahead of the curve with that one.
LeBron James, no. 1 #SLAMTop50
The definitive ranking of the NBA's best players for 2014-15.
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SI.com's Top 100 NBA players of 2015
SI.com is proud to offer our list of the Top 100 Players of 2015, an exhaustive exercise that seeks to define who will be the NBA's best this season.
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And for the thousandth time. This isn’t meant to devalue what Klay/Dray meant to a championship team in order to propel Steph Curry. It’s simply to show what level of talent those guys were viewed as, respective around the league at a various time.
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. I come in peace. Not with that goofy foolishness y’all on .
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Steph and Klay's stats weren't that different in thst first championship year other than assists
So if Steph was considered top tier (he won the MVP), Klay wasn't far behind
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