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THEE OFFICIAL 2019-2020 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD: VICTORY LAP
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James Harden in 1990 would probably have a completely different skill set than 2020.
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Eh, I’m capable of compartmentalizing.
I’m sure I could give him credit for producing some good TV content, while also thinking that he personally comes across on TV and in a lot of his writing as a smug know-it-all whose opinions are driven by a lot of evident biases.
I think Mel Gibson is a psycho, but I still think Braveheart was a great movie.
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Honestly wouldn’t be much for a lot of guys in here to post about if they did that lol
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Respect for that. Honestly because most aren't able to do that.
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Agreed on that.
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It's hilarious to see the old guard talk about how the hard hitting 80s and 90s would've broke today's stars. No logic whatsoever, just nosetalgia. 
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Yep, which is why I asked when does this Fictional James get born. 1989 or 1965.
But dudes don't think that deep about their "Plug and Play" hypotheticals.
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I find what Harden's game has devolved into to be a crime against basketball.
but cmon he would be effective in any era with a 3 point line.
but cmon he would be effective in any era with a 3 point line.
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Twitter finger era “ harder “ huh
Ok ...
Ok ...
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Talking about how hard another man is on the computer is a soft move
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To be clear, I'm not defending the point. I'm just trying to see his side of things and why he would imagine seeing that.
I don't watch enough Harden to answer your question regarding him ducking true physcial contact. However, I do think his statement was base don precisely what you stated - Harden benefits from the refs being advised to make "soft" calls now. The era Harden or Jordan shouldn't be held against them or used to prop them up but it has become abundantly clear over the past the few weeks that a lot of people are incapable of doing that so here we are.
How does guys in the 1990s playing with migraines stack up against guys in the 2010s playing with two scratched corneas? I need some revisionts to address this...
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Off topic but drop current me in like the 50s or 60s and I swear I could average double digits lol
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Yea and that logic makes zero sense. James Harden can only perform within the regulations of the world in which he resides.
That has nothing to do with how he would perform in a fictional environment.
As with most Harden posts in this thread, it was put out there as a shot at him.
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These are harsher terms than I would have used, but yeah.
I don’t enjoy watching Harden play that much - don’t like all the dribbling, and reliance on drawing fouls. But to me there’s no dispute he has elite offensive skills coupled with great size and strength for a guard.
He plays how he does because he can. If the league all of a sudden dramatically changed how games are called, he’d adapt. At the end of the day, he can flat out hoop.
MIKE LOWERY
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James Harden is the same size as Jordan after he decided to put on weight with better range on his shot. I find it hard to believe he would struggle in any era.
Maybe struggle to average 35+ in a post centric offense/league, but struggle to survive? Be an all-star? Make a WCF? We're talking about elite level shooting and athleticism from a guy 10+ years in the league. Changing eras won't change how good he is at playing basketball. The great ones adapt.
Bron is pulling from the logo now. Like come on bruh.
Maybe struggle to average 35+ in a post centric offense/league, but struggle to survive? Be an all-star? Make a WCF? We're talking about elite level shooting and athleticism from a guy 10+ years in the league. Changing eras won't change how good he is at playing basketball. The great ones adapt.
Bron is pulling from the logo now. Like come on bruh.
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Well blame the NBA in that case.
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Ok. Lace up them Chucks and conduct a 20 minute warm-up session. How are those numbers looking now?
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Harden and MDA could take a cue from MJ and Phil about adaptation.
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sure, it doesn't really matter whose fault it is, I don't even blame harden.
I was a big fan of Harden's game, that kind what bums me out about it.
the rockets style of play is probably the most effective given their personnel, but it's essentially card counting basketball and that's no fun.
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He was a 20/10 guy on about 46% from the field for the entire 80s. Advanced stats don’t love him because he didn’t shoot 3s. So it kinda underrates him in a sense. But his raw numbers, and above average efficiency for a PG his size, and his workload Leads me to believe he was special. The old heads are right when they talk about Zeke.
He was THAT.
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He was the best player on the back to back championship team
that’s all you need to know
Stop with the wanna be nerd ****
that’s all you need to know
Stop with the wanna be nerd ****
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And we have to stop this nonsense too man.
Stop holding, "Not shooting 3's" against players in eras that didn't love the shot as much as the league does today.
do work son
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eh, i think there's competing ideologies on not straying from what made you successful. I don't disagree that the rockets should be more open to diversifying the offense though.
i think this is one of the more accurate descriptions of what houston does. essentially, we spread the floor, isolate the weakest defender, and continue to do that all game long with the thought process being: we'll likely get up enough 3s to win if we hit at a ___% pace. i don't always like it, but given the personnel we have, it's proven to be relatively successful.
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