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€57m for Mendy is ridiculous. I really hope we never see the day where transfer fees like this force the likes of Barca and RM, and to a lesser extent Bayern to have to sell out for oil money or a random American ie Kroenke/Glazer instead of operating under the fan-ownership model they currently do.
Man if you don't get off your high horse.. both Barca and Madrid take turns breaking transfer records or lying about it and you find it offensive that city spent that money on a fb? Didn't you just spend 45 mil on a 16 yr old.. someone wash this mans face he's obviously too blind to do it himself
 
You guys think I wasn't expecting that very obvious and simplistic point to be brought up?

It would be interesting to have this discussion with someone who understands and appreciates the finances and purpose of Athletic Bilbao, RM, and Barca, and how it drives them to maximum success even in 2017. But I wasn't expecting anyone to be able to have this conversation. I was just voicing my thoughts. You can carry along though and think this conversation is as simple as the points you brought up.
 
Many flaws in this argument.

-Falcao became world class at Atletico, not Monaco
-Martial played great before Mou was hired. Him not starting much this season probably has more to do with Mou than him.
-James played great for Madrid when he first got there. Seems like he and Zizou had a falling out.

Yeah but his production at Monaco was just as good as it was at atletico. 32 in 49 appearances is something you'd ecpect to see flourish in england. Didn't happen. Blame it on the weather or the "perm experience". But he didn't produce the goods as expected. I see your point, but he played for monaco at time before leaving to england on loan, so I'ma run with that :lol

Martial was on his way, but look what happened. Manager changes and now he's one food out the door. Who's to say these new signings from monaco won't have a ADM like experience in england? They had one good season. They finished 31 points behind PSG the season before. I don't want to call them a flash in the pan, but it seems like everyone blew their loads really fast after Monaco raised a lot of brows in the CL. Thats what I'm pointing out the most. When chelsea got Kante after one hell of a year at Leicester, he walked into chelsea and made them contenders again. My question is, with Monaco's track record, will any of these guys do the same?

And James is in the same boat as Gotze to me. Both great players, only James I feel has more to offer. Gotze was in the right place at the right time and Bayern did what they do. But James tbh was just another example of a Monaco player that should have stayed and helped rebuild Monaco. James is at a bigger better club now, but whatevs.

I'm not wishing bad on any of these players. I actually get to support them all now that they're out of PSG's way, but I'd belying if I said I didn't enjoy watching PSG fight every week to try to win the league this season. It was frustrating but its what sports are about. Monaco could have built something special. These guys are super young, and Monaco had no real reason to sell. Disappointed to see Lemar, James, Martial, Bakayoko, Bernardo, and Mendy, Carrasco, Kondogbia all leave in a 3 year span... Bruh... Monaco had gems. I ain't even get to the golden boy who might be leaving yet.

And the best part was a lot of them play for the french NT. Chemistry on 100 and you play together week in and week out leading up to the world cup? Damn.
 
FTR imo there's nothing wrong with supporting a club that has a sugar daddy owner.

But there's also something beautiful about the way the aforementioned clubs operate when you actually understand their respective purposes and how it's achieved.
 
What's your take on Lemar? I don't think he's worth what Arsenal are trying to sign him for.

Lemar has the juice. Mans shot should be at least a 90 on fifa. Creative, has pace, and can finish.

Is he worth the price? Eh, iono. I want to see him do it again, and if Monaco can't repeat the title, at least finish 2nd in the league. He's definitely got the talent, but I'm not a fan of the 1 and done big transfer fee's. Guys like Coutinho, Alexis, Hazard etc have had multiple great seasons which justify their demand imo.

I do however think with Arsenal's heavy french influence (much like if a Brazilian player were to go to Liverpool or PSG) he would link right in with Lacazette, Coq, Kosc, Giroud etc.
 
Also last bit but understanding ownership is something that happens long after we've pledged allegiance to clubs. It has nothing to do with what led us to support our clubs in the first place.

And I understand that which is why there's no being on a "high horse" relative to other club's supporters.
 
Your just as susceptible to the will of your president as we are to our owners/chairmen.. you have a say a vote in who is president but once they are in office you are at their mercy.. not like you can publicly vote on every transfer.. so I'm not really sure how you are using a transfer/fee to make any point

FYI.. glazers ain't put a penny of their own money into united. So miss me with that sugar daddy ish. Uniteds spending is paid for by uniteds brand
 
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And just like that the Mexican league took a step sideways into the evolution of footy. Watching Tijuana vs Cruz Azul and a #14 just got subbed off to make way for a number #299. The 4th ref's lightboard could only show 99 during the switch

Talked to my dad. Yes that's legal and kinda getting popular now. He also said he's #137
 
You guys think I wasn't expecting that very obvious and simplistic point to be brought up?

It would be interesting to have this discussion with someone who understands and appreciates the finances and purpose of Athletic Bilbao, RM, and Barca, and how it drives them to maximum success even in 2017. But I wasn't expecting anyone to be able to have this conversation. I was just voicing my thoughts. You can carry along though and think this conversation is as simple as the points you brought up.

Enough with the condescending and patronizing tone. All the big clubs in Argentina are also owned "by the supporters." A supporter of Real Madrid and Barcelona is just as much an "owner" of the club as someone who owns a few shares in IBM is the "owner" of IBM.
 
57 mil isn't ridiculous. What's ridiculous is that Monaco got City to pay it.

Bruh, winter is coming. You better get ya fleece on..

Also last bit but understanding ownership is something that happens long after we've pledged allegiance to clubs. It has nothing to do with what led us to support our clubs in the first place.

And I understand that which is why there's no being on a "high horse" relative to other club's supporters.


iono man. PSG got that bag. That easily helped influence me watching them knowing they had first pick of the litter in france


But then again, I really give no dambs outchea

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Like I said I'm not expecting you guys to have an appreciation for the differences in the first place.

Thinking that United's for-profit corporate ownership to make the Glazers richer is equivalent to RM being a non-profit which means it's driven by something other than the purpose of making people money (like the footballing ideals they exemplify) shows the lack of that appreciation.

I'm not pulling this out of my *** it's something I learned from a book that Sir Alex himself is listed on the back cover as giving a stellar review. If there were no substance to one of the the main themes of the entire book then it's very unlikely he'd review it in that manner.
 
Football ideals Madrid exemplify?
Like buying the top talent in the world at any cost? Last time I checked you had a crazy amount of debt as well. You guys are hands down the most successful club in history but if you don't miss me with this holier then thou bs fam
 
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The stupid part of your post is that historically United, the club you support, has held ideals of playing attacking beautiful footy too.

I feel like I just wasted time speaking to you.
 
Mascherano: We're obliged to improve on last season, that's more than clear. Like I said, this is a really demanding club and those demands mean we obviously have to improve on last season. Winning everything is always the target.

:smokin he's always been a real one.
 
Lol now you edit your post after initially just saying:



I'm out though.
lmfao.. I edited to expound on it.. unlike you. I don't think everyone in here is unable to comprehend my views

I stand by everything I said to you.. not too long ago Madrid was the epitome of unsuccessfully throwing money at every problem.. ppl don't forget
 
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So who does Barca bring in to replace ney ney? Dembele, Dybala? Can they tempt mbop?

Man you gotta respect the balls on psg.. told Barca to **** off over verratti and then took neymar.

Barca gonna be psgs new feeder club
 
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So who does Barca bring in to replace ney ney? Dembele, Dybala? Can they tempt mbop?

Man you gotta respect the balls on psg.. told Barca to **** off over verratti and then took neymar.

Barca gonna be psgs new feeder club

Bruh :rollin

I'm staying slander free on Barca for eternity if Neymar deal goes through. I really had nothing bad to say about them to begin with, but if this **** goes through, I hope nothing but good vibes in Catalonia :lol

They can kick boulders if we talking Verratti tho. Dude has to stay if PSG will ever turn get better in European football. PSG needs nire French players int hat starting 11 tho. I say next summer go for Laporte and pair him next to Marquinhos.

Barca should get dembele and dybala with the bread tho. Dembele got the moves and dybala can allow Messi to drop back near iniesta
 
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