this Thread about nothing thread is killing da whole vibe in general...

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Why should we have to sift through 4 pages of spam to find thread worthy posts?​

What will that prove?​

I think the TAN has it's place for certain stuff like quick thoughts that pop into your head, but it moves so fast, nothing can be discussed.​
If you're browsing for topics you're already browsing for things that interest you. That same principle applies when you're browsing for posts to reply to in tan.
It proves that you actually want thread worthy topics instead of complaining and expecting them to fall into your lap.
"It moves too fast," I keep seeing this phrase as if it means something.
Define moves too fast, so I understand what you mean.

Thread moving fast = pages accumulated faster then u can read & write a indepth response to, thus hurting overall

Conversation of said topic for da sake of "keeping up wit da thread"

The posts in that thread dont need or deserve an in depth response though.

This all boils down to a "you" problem and not a "board" problem. It comes back to you being bored and feel like theres interesting topics that you arent capable of participating in.


Some big game threads move "too fast" for in depth responses, should they be closed? Should there be no Super Bowl thread?
 
How are you going to say people that post in TAN are too lazy to make a topic when its pretty much the same steps? Technically, its more steps.

TAN post:
1. Log on to NT
2. Go to general.
3. Find and Click on TAN
4. Scroll to the bottom
5. Insert message.

Making a new thread.
1. Log on to NT
2. Go to General
3. Click on Start a New Thread.
4. Insert message.

..and I condensed the TAN posting steps.
 
Well, I made an effort to check general at least a few times this weekend and I saw no degradation in thread quality . Heck, I hadn't seen one before this thread's creation and animated existence made me take a look.

Locking that thread would be an unwarranted submission to member(s) that incessantly repeat unsubstantiated claims. Instead, give the persecutor(s) a few days, or even a week, to gather evidence on the alleged offenses. To date, all that's been presented can best be characterized as unwarranted assumptions and sheer misconceptions. It just wouldn't be fair to the frequenters of that thread to lock it in this manner, even if only for a week. The burden of proof has not been met and those accused should remain under the presumption of innocence. The defense pleads for the Niketalk Circuit Court of Huddler to uphold the cherished principles of message board jurisprudence.
 
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Well, I made an effort to check general at least a few times this weekend and I saw no degradation in thread quality . Heck, I hadn't seen one before this thread's creation and animated existence made me take a look.

Locking that thread would be an unwarranted submission to member(s) that incessantly repeat unsubstantiated claims. Instead, give the persecutor(s) a few days, or even a week, to gather evidence on the alleged offenses. To date, all that's been presented can best be characterized as unwarranted assumptions and sheer misconceptions. It just wouldn't be fair to the frequenters of that thread to lock it in this manner, even if only for a week. The burden of proof has not been met and those accused should remain under the presumption of innocence. The defense pleads for the Niketalk Circuit Court of Huddler to uphold the cherished principles of message board jurisprudence.


i couldn't have said it better myself.
 
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classic politics....

im so adamant about this issh because on im on NT EVERY DAY, i can TELL its affecting da stagnation of general, and my logic is sound. if you have a garden, and instead of

watering da entire yard, you water only 1 portion constantly, da rest of da garden is gonna wither and die off. when lurkers enter da garden and see that da MAJORITY of da place

is dead and stagnant, is gonna NOT feel inviting or have feelings of wanting to stay....

i haven't been entertained in general, i haven't gotten my mental gymnastics on in here, i didn't learn anything new other then things I MYSELF had to dig for instead of

just browsing general for new stuff.

meanwhile is da thread about nothing.....

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i think people would've LOVED to know that samsung was cool enough to give someone a free phone, but because da lazy poster didn't make a thread on it and tossed it in

da abyss, information doesn't travel, synergy isn't realized, and general's garden doesn't get watered again....there's instances of this happening over there CONSTANTLY.

add up how many months that parasite has been sucking da blood of general and its no wonder why general, NT's once mightiest section is sputtering instead of roaring

to life.
Freaking AWSOME. Would of blown up in general. I wouldn't of know anything about this otherwise
 
Well, I made an effort to check general at least a few times this weekend and I saw no degradation in thread quality . Heck, I hadn't seen one before this thread's creation and animated existence made me take a look.

Locking that thread would be an unwarranted submission to member(s) that incessantly repeat unsubstantiated claims. Instead, give the persecutor(s) a few days, or even a week, to gather evidence on the alleged offenses. To date, all that's been presented can best be characterized as unwarranted assumptions and sheer misconceptions. It just wouldn't be fair to the frequenters of that thread to lock it in this manner, even if only for a week. The burden of proof has not been met and those accused should remain under the presumption of innocence. The defense pleads for the Niketalk Circuit Court of Huddler to uphold the cherished principles of message board jurisprudence.


well said hank
 
classic politics....

im so adamant about this issh because on im on NT EVERY DAY, i can TELL its affecting da stagnation of general, and my logic is sound. if you have a garden, and instead of

watering da entire yard, you water only 1 portion constantly, da rest of da garden is gonna wither and die off. when lurkers enter da garden and see that da MAJORITY of da place

is dead and stagnant, is gonna NOT feel inviting or have feelings of wanting to stay....

i haven't been entertained in general, i haven't gotten my mental gymnastics on in here, i didn't learn anything new other then things I MY


to life.
Freaking AWSOME. Would of blown up in general. I wouldn't of know anything about this otherwise

was posted in the android thread... its own thread would have just been post saying theres an android thread.... & or a fanboy debate
 
Well, I made an effort to check general at least a few times this weekend and I saw no degradation in thread quality . Heck, I hadn't seen one before this thread's creation and animated existence made me take a look.

Locking that thread would be an unwarranted submission to member(s) that incessantly repeat unsubstantiated claims. Instead, give the persecutor(s) a few days, or even a week, to gather evidence on the alleged offenses. To date, all that's been presented can best be characterized as unwarranted assumptions and sheer misconceptions. It just wouldn't be fair to the frequenters of that thread to lock it in this manner, even if only for a week. The burden of proof has not been met and those accused should remain under the presumption of innocence. The defense pleads for the Niketalk Circuit Court of Huddler to uphold the cherished principles of message board jurisprudence.
I don't want to argue this on two fronts simultaneously, as I've wasted enough of my Sunday on it as it is, so let me just link this:  http://niketalk.com/t/329154/the-thread-about-nothing/40410#post_16338000
Originally Posted by MMG 

No offense meth I don't see why locking the thread for a week is gonna solve anything, your just catering to one side of the argument at hand when you yourself has stated that this thread isn't effecting general.
I've stated that it hasn't resulted in less overall posting activity.

We don't know yet what the impact will be on topic creation, etc.  

Let's be honest:  there ARE some real problems with this thread.  It was almost locked a month or so back when people tried to take it on a porn tangent.  It's a real resource drag to sort through 3,000 pages to find inappropriate tangents whereas it IS very easy to remove an inappropriate thread from the forums.  

That stuff needs to be fixed.  

Removing the thread for a week will hopefully achieve the following: 

1) Users opposed to the thread can shut up for awhile, which we'll all enjoy.

2) Users who support the thread will hopefully appreciate it more, so they'll be willing to accept some responsibility for its upkeep.

3) Hopefully users who frequent this thread will spend some time outside of it and will make better use of the WHOLE site.  Using this thread to discuss music, sports, and shoes is not acceptable, honestly.  The rules still apply.  

If new topic creation occurs, GREAT.  I'm not going to hold that AGAINST this thread, however.  Quite the contrary.  If those who frequent this thread use the time proving that they just want to make POSITIVE contributions to our forums, then you're even better poised to help resolve the source of the complaints about this thread and repair it.  It's about balance.  If "thread about nothing" users are perceived as being "elitist," that they can't/won't play nice with others, then you're just feeding that us vs. them mentality.  Proving that we're all in this together is a step in the right direction.  

If I leave the thread as is, there's no incentive or imperative to fix it.  

Users who hate this thread don't get to "have their way" just because it's down for a week.  They want it gone for good.  Their only argument, at this point, is that it's "draining" the forum of quality threads.  As long as the thread exists, they can keep on saying that.  There's no way to isolate the actual problem unless we suspend the thread.  

When we regroup, we can work on revising the way this thread works so as to retain whatever benefits people observed during its absence.  Maybe that involves laying down some clearer guidelines regarding what is/isn't appropriate for this post.  Maybe some users who participate in this thread and find something topic-worthy will choose to share it with the forum in general and can link to that thread to better distribute the discussion.  Whatever the case may be, we'll have the opportunity to solve the problem.  

If we DON'T take that one week break first, however, no changes you make will satisfy the critics because they'll always claim that things could be better still if the thread were removed entirely.  
The thread has its own actual problems and it's almost been locked on several occasions as it is.  If this gives us the opportunity to solve those problems and address a wide array of member concerns, so much the better.  

Everyone needs to share these forums.  I'd rather we resolve this together than make a hasty all or nothing decision and send a big "screw you" to everyone who disagrees. 

There is literally no way to satisfy everyone here.  I'd rather at least attempt a reasonable compromise that results in an improved "thread about nothing" than give either side 100% of what they want at the expense of everyone else.  
 
pretty ironic to have a thread about nothing in a section about nothing

makes no sense and I never look in it
 
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 op and last op of other thread hate are fools 
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its just a damn thread with only 10 people being the common posters in the thread gaining a bunch of reps for each otheer , loving each other unconditionally 
 
Diego, while your point is valid, most dudes in here are pro ninjahood just to be pro ninjahood.
This thread could only be made by someone like ninja/henz0/steezy without the op being laughed out of niketalk.
why would anyone do that?

if people agree with what im saying then they're agreeing with da point im trying to make.

i wouldn't buy anything with a jumpman on in because JB decided to hock it out to retailers twitter buzz me about it every 30 seconds.

things stand or fall on their own merit, so if i garnered enough support for my cause based my own credentials and points im bringing up

dont try to sell it short "just cuz im me" thats basically phoning home any sort of opposition toward da thread about nothing and copping a plea.
 
Diego, while your point is valid, most dudes in here are pro ninjahood just to be pro ninjahood.

This thread could only be made by someone like ninja/henz0/steezy without the op being laughed out of niketalk.
why would anyone do that?

if people agree with what im saying then they're agreeing with da point im trying to make.

i wouldn't buy anything with a jumpman on in because JB decided to hock it out to retailers twitter buzz me about it every 30 seconds.

things stand or fall on their own merit, so if i garnered enough support for my cause based my own credentials and points im bringing up

dont try to sell it short "just cuz im me" thats basically phoning home any sort of opposition toward da thread about nothing and copping a plea.
Some agree with your point, most are here because you're ninjahood.
Ninja you know very well that you have some pull around here.
Don't act like you're new.
 
Out of curiosity Meth what do your Sundays consist now that the ******** dont suck ?
They don't?  

Anyway, I don't want to detract from the subject at hand, but I'm actually not a fan of that franchise:  http://niketalk.com/t/330759/how-is-********-an-appropriate-name-for-a-professional-sports-team/60
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 op and last op of other thread hate are fools 
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Oh, you mean the thread you started? 

http://niketalk.com/t/507542/gnihton-tuoba-daerht-eht

Sounds like you're ready for a one week break yourself. 
 
I don't want to argue this on two fronts simultaneously, as I've wasted enough of my Sunday on it as it is, so let me just link this:  http://niketalk.com/t/329154/the-thread-about-nothing/40410#post_16338000

The thread has its own actual problems and it's almost been locked on several occasions as it is.  If this gives us the opportunity to solve those problems and address a wide array of member concerns, so much the better.  

Everyone needs to share these forums.  I'd rather we resolve this together than make a hasty all or nothing decision and send a big "screw you" to everyone who disagrees. 

There is literally no way to satisfy everyone here.  I'd rather at least attempt a reasonable compromise that results in an improved "thread about nothing" than give either side 100% of what they want at the expense of everyone else.  
I understand you are between a rock and a hard place here but I am suggesting that the animated rhetoric of the accusers be supported by some evidence that isn't rebutted instantly. Then the one-week lock down experiment would have actual cause for implementation. Right now, there isn't any because absolutely nothing has changed. This thread has brought nothing to light and it seems that the only reason for the lock down's origination is out of frustration with the annoying accusations of a few folks. If these folks say that there is too much thread-worthy material being enveloped in one thread, then let's see it. I can't believe the NT staff would bend to such questionable behavior.

Literally everything that could go wrong with the thread in question could go wrong in any mega-long thread. There could be talk about porn and piracy in there as well, and even though I haven't seen it, I wouldn't put it past some of the posters in those threads.Tangents happen all the time. Essentially, every huge thread has the potential to veer off into a "thread about one thing usually and nothing sometimes."  Couldn't that be construed as a similar drain on the staff? How would the staff know when the tangents occur? Some of those threads move very fast as well.  Is that okay just because someone hasn't made an unsubstantiated big deal about it?
 
Ninja, I hope for the sake of your argument that the week the TAN is down, is the best week general has ever had.
Originally Posted by cocotaso1  

If we get our thread back, guess we gotta be a lot more strict with what happens.

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at this fool getting his way though, next time I have an issue ima just make a thread and ***** and moan about it.

even then he wins.
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Originally Posted by whyhellothere  

when are we forced to abandon our loved one?
where will i be able to post lulz like this
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and tell nt that i would like to grow my hair out like this guy just so i could do this?

make a thread about it
i got a feeling this dust up will be for da entire betterment of Niketalk general.
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I understand you are between a rock and a hard place here but I am suggesting that the animated rhetoric of the accusers be supported by some evidence that isn't rebutted instantly. Then the one-week lock down experiment would have actual cause for implementation. Right now, there isn't any because absolutely nothing has changed. This thread has brought nothing to light and it seems that the only reason for the lock down's origination is out of frustration with the annoying accusations of a few folks. If these folks say that there is too much thread-worthy material being enveloped in one thread, then let's see it.
Again, that thread was on the verge of being locked a couple of times since the move already.  

If I didn't have my doubts about it then I wouldn't be persuaded by the relatively insubstantial arguments brought against it, but the truth of the matter is that quite a few people besides "ninjahood" believe that it's become a drain on forum activity and, to a certain extent, that possibility does exist and is worthy of examination. 

The "danger" isn't really a lack of quality topics - we've demonstrated as much already.  What can't be denied, however, is that when you have people talking about sports in "the thread about nothing" INSTEAD of the Sports forum, you hurt the Sports forum.  When you have people talking about music in "the thread about nothing" INSTEAD of the Music forum, you hurt the Music forum.  Rather than users adding diversity to other threads throughout the site, you have one cliquish thread where people just sort of cloister themselves.  

I have no real problem with the thread if it serves its intended purpose, but I don't think people understand what that purpose should be.  It's for stuff that doesn't belong anywhere else, not for anything and everything

The reason the "team" threads in Sneaker Showcase work is because they have a clearly defined point.  People who like a particular shoe, like the Roshe or the Air Max line, can post about their collections, etc.  They aren't sitting in there talking about what's on television, or whether or not the Niners won.  You don't have that problem.  (You do, however, have people i the "thread about nothing" asking about sneaker releases.)

If the allegation is that the "Thread About Nothing" has become too expansive and permissive, then I think that claim can be supported.  

I know, first hand, just how many posts have to be deleted in there to keep it clear and what a drain it's becoming on staff resources.  Since it usually involves just one particular group of people, they rarely report problems within the thread - either to cover for friends or because it's quick-moving and they're on to the next thing.  However, we have had 2-3 page stretches where 5-12 different people will chime in on something inappropriate, and there can be no denying that it happens more frequently in there than all other large threads combined precisely because there is no set topic.  

These are legitimate concerns.  

Now, most of these "quality" concerns can't POSSIBLY be substantiated without a trial, so saying, "where's the evidence" is just going to launch a pointless "prove it is" vs. "prove it isn't" debate as seen in every single religion thread.

Rather than engage in something pointless, I'd rather we actually make progress.  If we close the thread for a week, this bickering goes away, the "TAN" regulars get to circulate a bit, and hopefully a few perspectives will be changed slightly.  If there's no change in behavior/attitude/environment, there's no change in outcomes.  This argument just becomes deadlocked and we're stuck with perpetual bitterness and a silly grudge over a forum thread.  If it takes ONE WEEK resolve the "quality" argument and redirect the "thread about nothing" in a more productive manner, I think that's a worthy investment.  
 
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