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pranks like that and carrying pads, taped to a goalpost, get stuck carrying a girlie backpack or making a rookie wear a skirt or something are hazing. Y'all kill me with the tough talk "oh hazing makes you a stronger man" foh with that I've gone through hazing before and it made me strongly dislike the people in that moment but it was NOTHING in respect to this. The older guys hazing me an other younger kids on the team had our backs, they would check on us to make sure we were adjusting ok, they'd take us out to eat a couple times as a group...we still had to do all the ***** tasks and an embarassing drinking event (once) for an entire year but that hazing crap didn't make us bond together it only served as some "rite of passage" bc the older guys had to do it when they were in our shoes. Literally no evidence of it making people bond together at all just a cycle of stupidity. What did help was us being able to talk to the older guys bc they actually cared. Incognito is a moron and won't play in the nfl again. Martin, yeah maybe he's not cut out for it dealin with idiotic stuff like that. Sure hell be just fine in life with his Stanford degree and parents with Harvard law degrees can probably help him be a successful, productive member of society which Dudes like Incognito surely are not, he's a meathead in every sense like so many other football players and probably would be unemployed if it weren't for football, where he's the dirtiest player in the game.
"Oh he's so soft and *****made Martin is 6-5 320 lbs so he should be able to take it" stop it with the nonsense. like some of your high school football hazing stories really trump the myriad of actual nfl stars who have said this is absurd and would not have gone down in their lockerroom. I'm talking: Moss, Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Cris carter, Keyshawn, ditka, among others. Miami has a lockerroom devoid of any real leadership.
pranks like that and carrying pads, taped to a goalpost, get stuck carrying a girlie backpack or making a rookie wear a skirt or something are hazing. Y'all kill me with the tough talk "oh hazing makes you a stronger man" foh with that I've gone through hazing before and it made me strongly dislike the people in that moment but it was NOTHING in respect to this. The older guys hazing me an other younger kids on the team had our backs, they would check on us to make sure we were adjusting ok, they'd take us out to eat a couple times as a group...we still had to do all the ***** tasks and an embarassing drinking event (once) for an entire year but that hazing crap didn't make us bond together it only served as some "rite of passage" bc the older guys had to do it when they were in our shoes. Literally no evidence of it making people bond together at all just a cycle of stupidity. What did help was us being able to talk to the older guys bc they actually cared. Incognito is a moron and won't play in the nfl again. Martin, yeah maybe he's not cut out for it dealin with idiotic stuff like that. Sure hell be just fine in life with his Stanford degree and parents with Harvard law degrees can probably help him be a successful, productive member of society which Dudes like Incognito surely are not, he's a meathead in every sense like so many other football players and probably would be unemployed if it weren't for football, where he's the dirtiest player in the game. "Oh he's so soft and *****made Martin is 6-5 320 lbs so he should be able to take it"
stop it with the nonsense. like some of your high school football hazing stories really trump the myriad of actual nfl stars who have said this is absurd and would not have gone down in their lockerroom. I'm talking: Moss, Urlacher, Ray Lewis, Cris carter, Keyshawn, ditka, among others. Miami has a lockerroom devoid of any real leadership.
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Keyshawn and Moss were wideouts and selfish in that way. Both were immature and did dumb things yet you dont think they grew up at some point and did anything other than whining about the ball or stuff like do raunchy TD celebrations that is petty compared to this incident? Randy sure did tear that New England locker room apart man oh man were they a divided bunch -__- . Your coach Schiano probably isn't as much of a douche as incognito, and he's not liked at all by most accounts. 
