Trying to prove my friend that marijuana is not addictive.

Originally Posted by Hess Side 978

def can be addicting, but the withdrawals from it aren't nearly as serious as other drugs

I put Maryj in the same category as caffeine when it comes it addiction. I know dozens of people who cannot function/wake up in the mornings without their coffee. I also know several people who cannot sleep at night without smoking. Neither of them are impossible habits to break, but both substances are usually easily obtained so users don't feel the need to stop using.

you forgot to add that caffeine is good for the body while MJ promotes sloth and apathy.
 
Originally Posted by Hanacheezy

Originally Posted by nerraD

I've quit marijuana about 100 times.
you can only quit something once. if you go back to it then you havent quit at all
thats the point. he keeps coming back.
i quit for a week once, and it was really easy.
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its IS addictive..

but you CANT quit it, trust me. i tried
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but there are times when i need to take a break cuz i might need a job or im trynna get a girl and she doesnt like dudes smokin anything.

it really depends on how you see life. just get your priorities straight.

once that bill passes im in there like swim wear
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Originally Posted by recycledpaper

Originally Posted by Hess Side 978

def can be addicting, but the withdrawals from it aren't nearly as serious as other drugs

I put Maryj in the same category as caffeine when it comes it addiction. I know dozens of people who cannot function/wake up in the mornings without their coffee. I also know several people who cannot sleep at night without smoking. Neither of them are impossible habits to break, but both substances are usually easily obtained so users don't feel the need to stop using.

you forgot to add that caffeine is good for the body while MJ promotes sloth and apathy.
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Originally Posted by TeemOhtee

its IS addictive..

but you CANT quit it, trust me. i tried
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I smoked practically everyday since I was a sophmore in HS and just completely quit a day after I graduated.  That was 9 years ago and I have no urge to ever do it again  It can be done if you really want to.
 
Originally Posted by TeemOhtee

its IS addictive..

but you CANT quit it, trust me. i tried
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but there are times when i need to take a break cuz i might need a job or im trynna get a girl and she doesnt like dudes smokin anything.

it really depends on how you see life. just get your priorities straight.

once that bill passes im in there like swim wear
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Marijuana is not addictive, it's habitual
You Body is already a chemical producing factory...marijuana aint hurtin nothin.

if you quit smoking marijuana your body won't go through harsh withdrawals, on the other hand have you seen that one person that hasn't had their morning coffee yet.
 
For me, I'd cop a quarter and just smoke that whenever I wanted..

Mainly cause I was bored all the time..Great way to kill time..

Simple solutions...Stay busy or Stay home. Don't give yourself a chance to smoke cause your bored, and if your home when your parents are, obviously it's harder to smoke.
 
Originally Posted by Yoda

For me, I'd cop a quarter and just smoke that whenever I wanted..

Mainly cause I was bored all the time..Great way to kill time..

Simple solutions...Stay busy or Stay home. Don't give yourself a chance to smoke cause your bored, and if your home when your parents are, obviously it's harder to smoke.

i've noticed that i smoke less when i have tree on deck instead of coppin a sack every time i come down. 
  
 
i just went from chiefing every single day for the last 3 months straight to zero nada (now) no withdraws hahaa

its not addicting, but sometimes i just wanna get hiiiii
 
Originally Posted by da boy boyy

Yoda wrote:

For me, I'd cop a quarter and just smoke that whenever I wanted..

Mainly cause I was bored all the time..Great way to kill time..

Simple solutions...Stay busy or Stay home. Don't give yourself a chance to smoke cause your bored, and if your home when your parents are, obviously it's harder to smoke.

i've noticed that i smoke less when i have tree on deck instead of coppin a sack every time i come down. 
  


Total opposite for me.

I don't have $@%^ on me right now. No desire to cop.

If I had some on me right now, I'd be in my basement using my vape and playing NHL on Xbox.
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went on a 2 week break but went back home this weekend from school and of course all the homies...

went through mad L's and so much for my streak
 
i would say it isn't...i quit for about 2 months awhile ago b/c i thought my job was gonna drug test me..i did just fine..didn't feel a urge to smoke

im not addicted..but i do like being high
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Originally Posted by tony AYOOO

i would say it isn't...i quit for about 2 months awhile ago b/c i thought my job was gonna drug test me..i did just fine..didn't feel a urge to smoke

im not addicted..but i do like being high
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I dare you to try it for a year.
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2 months is nothing.
 
Is it really that big of a deal to define whether or not MJ is an addictive substance?

Like it or not any substance (caffeine, alcohol, and other "legal/illegal" stuff other than MJ) when you build a reliability on it. You develop an addiction (for better or worse) simply put.
 
It's astounding to me how many so called quasi-experts about addiction do not know the difference between addiction and physical dependence.



Addiction: (As defined by the DSM-IV)

  • (1) tolerance, as defined by either of the following: 
     (a) a need for markedly increased amounts of the substance to achieve Intoxicationor desired effect 
     (b) markedly diminished effect with continued use of the same amount of the substance 


    (2) Withdrawal, as manifested by either of the following: 
     (a) the characteristic withdrawal syndromefor the substance (refer to Criteria A and B of the criteria sets for Withdrawal from the specific substances) 
     (b) the same (or a closely related) substance is taken to relieve or avoid withdrawalsymptoms


    (3) the substance is often taken in larger amounts or over a longer period than was intended 

    (4) there is a persistent desire or unsuccessful efforts to cut down or control substance use 

    (5) a great deal of time is spent in activities necessary to obtain thesubstance (e.g., visiting multiple doctors or driving long distances),use the substance (e.g., chain-smoking), or recover from its effects 

    (6) important social, occupational, or recreational activities are given up or reduced because of substance use 

    (7) the substance use is continued despite knowledge of having apersistent or recurrent physical or psychological problem that islikely to have been caused or exacerbated by the substance (e.g.,current cocaine use despite recognition of cocaine-induceddepression, or continued drinking despite recognition that an ulcer was made worse by alcohol consumption)
Physical Dependence
  • Occurs in the neurtoransmitters with drugs like Benzos, alcohol, nicotine, amphetamines, and even caffeine.
  • It is heavily dependent on tolerance and withdrawal symptoms. 
  • This usually occurs in drugs that inhibit reuptake not allowing whatever Neurotransmitter being pushed out to be removed from your synapse gap, which for a lot of drugs, ultimately damage your neurotransmitter receptor which then leads to a de-sensitivity to that Neurotransmitter.
  • Or in drugs that inhibit, aka, opiates, after such prolonged unnatural blocking of a Neurotransmitter (for opiates mostly ones that control pain), once the drug is no longer in the system the body compensates by flooding your synapse with a @@*+ ton of the Neurotransmitter in question. That's how VERY VERY PAINFUL opiate withdrawals happen.
If you can guess marijuana is not one of the drugs that cause this type of physical dependence. The worst withdrawal symptoms of marijuana are MAYBE an upset stomach that last no longer than a week, and that's for the most HEAVY of smokers.

This distinction between addiction and physical dependence is what separates habit forming and relatively harmless things like videogames, marijuana, tv, computer, almost ANYTHING you do more than once a week, and the drugs like opiates, alcohol, benzo, amphetamines, etc.

This is right out of my drugs alcohol and addiction textbook. [color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]NTERS stop making up things about addiction because I'm almost certain sure if you didn't read it from a text book or hear it from a professor it's 100% wrong. [/color]I don't care how long you've worked at a addiction center.

I really really hate sounding pretentious right now but the amount of misinformation about drugs is just plain DUMB. I too have worked at many centers under professors (Planned Parenthood) and the amount of lower level employees who rely on conventional wisdom (which is almost always wrong) is staggering.

I'm not calling Stuntman Mike, because you did not say anything false. I'm just disappointed that you had a chance to distinguish marijuana addiction from the type of addiction one should be scared of. A lot of Nters probably understood that as the same ambiguous meaning of "marijuana is addicting to some and not others." Which doesn't say much of anything to me.

Link if you want to learn more. Understanding Addiction on the Neurotransmitter Level
 
it goes like this from most addicting to least addiction.


A. Money $$
1. Online Porn
2. Masturbation
3. Sex
4. Cigarettes
5. Weed.


seriously.
 
Your friend is an idiot. It'd be a waste trying to explain this to him.

Just give him a bunch of links stating the non-addictive nature of marijuana based off of research.

Also for anybody saying they're gonna quit getting high and have to announce it (a la cigarettes) you're stupid and have already lost. Saying that alone creates the false premise that
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is something is addictive(and it aint really habit forming for me anyway).
 
Originally Posted by Toy Collector123

Does Marijuana cause deaths?

If no, how do you know you're not that one person to die from it?
marijuana can cause death, but the amount of THC that will make that happen is too much for anyone to die. I forgot what it is, but even smoking the whole day from the highest potent marijuana is not enough to cause death...
and to answer the main question, marijuana is not addictive people CHOOSE not to stop, and when they do they ca go months with out it, people will come back to it simply because it does no harm, there is nothing but good from the cannnibis plant. Look it up its scientifically proven. It is illegal bcuz its supposedly a "gateway" drug and there was too much $$$ put in drug propaganda that the govt doesnt want it to go to waste...
 
And to others whose evidence that marijuana is addictive is that other won't quit at their request, have you ever considered that perhaps one does not want to quit what they enjoy doing just to indulge somebody else's pompous and misinformed request.

How would you feel if I asked you to quit the internet for a week, month, year? And then if you didn't I would then proceed to snidely make comments about you being addicted to the internet while insinuating it is comparable to a alcohol/meth/cocaine addiction.
 
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