WELCOME TO THE MARVEL MULTIVERSE -*RIP STAN LEE & Boseman* - Deadpool & Wolverine = 07/26/24

[everysingletime]

He didn't help a wanted felon escape from the government.

At the beginning he was just trying to keep Bucky from getting killed.

He fully cooperated after he saw that War Machine got everything under control and no one was going to shoot anyone unnecessarily.

Then in custody, he fully cooperated there too. Then Bucky lost his damn mind cuz of the hypnosis and Cap did everything he could to keep Bucky from escaping. He literally held down a helicopter.

Then he realized Bucky was brainwashed and after that it was all about finding the real bad guy.

 

[jays25]

He didn't help a wanted felon escape from the government.

At the beginning he was just trying to keep Bucky from getting killed.

He fully cooperated after he saw that War Machine got everything under control and no one was going to shoot anyone unnecessarily.

Then in custody, he fully cooperated there too. Then Bucky lost his damn mind cuz of the hypnosis and Cap did everything he could to keep Bucky from escaping. He literally held down a helicopter.

Then he realized Bucky was brainwashed and after that it was all about finding the real bad guy.

Watch the film again fam. In-between these two events, the helicopter going down and finding Zemo, Steve captures Bucky, doesn't turn him into the government, and thereby helps him to escape from the government. And throughout these events, Bucky is a wanted man. Like that's literally what his status is and what Steve is doing. He takes a criminal and instead of returning him to his jail cell takes him off to some private garage somewhere, after which he proceeds to recruit a bunch of innocent people to his cause, leading to the Civil War at the airport. Steve Rogers is a walking disaster who ruins the lives of everyone around him. There's not a single person who ends the film better off because of steve. Rhodey? Paralzyed. Bucky? Missing an arm. Scarlet Witch, Falcoln, Ant-Man, Hawkeye? Fugitives from the law.

 

[IATT]

 it was all about saving his "Even when I had nothing, I had bucky."

all you had to say

 

[drewsone]

Rhodey

 

[everysingletime]

Rhodey

Vision's fault. Not Cap's


All that advanced technology in his noggin and he never learned how to aim smh

 

[drewsone]

Indirectly Cap fault though

 

[Cashflow]

If Captain Nazi hands over Bucky, the airport fight doesn't happen, he gets to tell the ENTIRE about the alleged threat and then they ALL could go deal with it.

With the entire team there and Bucky in jail, the video doesn't trigger Tony as much as it did. Everyone goes home in one piece, uninjured and not in jail

But Scumbag Steve loves war and wants to always fight

 

[everysingletime]

Right. What happened when Tony found out that Bucky was innocent and there was somebody else behind the bombing. He tried telling Ross. Didn't work. Did he assemble the team so that they could 'all deal with it.' [emoji]129300[/emoji]

Man, for all of Tony's 'intelligence' he found out about Bucky's innocence a million years after Cap did [emoji]129300[/emoji]

It's such a shame that Tony is Peter's mentor. He's going to be so messed up by the end of Homecoming. He'll probably turn to drugs to cope with all of that teenage frustration.

 

[Cashflow]

Ithink that's the major disconnect here. He didn't bomb that meeting sure. But he's been murdering as a hired gun for decades. That doesn't magically go away because he was framed this one time.

 

[Master Zik]

Never cared for the character in the comics so I don't care either way.


She's w/e in the role.

She became much more interesting when they changed her power set to reality warping, which started driving her insane. Her 60's-80's power set was boring and cliche'

I just find the character boring. Adding this go crazy deus ex machina power sisnt make her more interesting to me.

Fans of the character didn't care for her going insane from what I understand.

Pgs they definitely didn't Talk about being pissed, hitching and moaning for 10 years +.

They would probably butcher MODOK like they did Arnim Zola.

How was he butchered?

To me they did him justice. Specifically in TWS.

Not saying he had to look exactly like this but it would have been interesting to see a nod to it

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Don't think he's good enough a villain which is why they weren't going to do that.

Y'all stand with a guy who wants nothing to do but be in war.

FUNDAMENTAL FACTS!

 

[everysingletime]

Ithink that's the major disconnect here. He didn't bomb that meeting sure. But he's been murdering as a hired gun for decades. That doesn't magically go away because he was framed this one time.

Nah there's no disconnect. In real life, ppl can plead not guilty by reason of insanity. He wasn't technically insane throughout all those murders, but I'm sure they can come up with a similar defense

 

[blakep267]

An insanity defense would mean Bucky goes to a psychiatric hospital. He's not insane. He can just be brainwashed. So he would be put in a super max jail and his arm taken. Basically what happened at the end of the movie. So Cap did all of that stuff, for the same outcome to happen. And now he's a fugitive himself

 

[yankeesking92]

Cap is the most loyal one out of the Avengers. His best friend is being framed, brain washed and everything, and he goes all out to help his friend. How many of y'all would do that? Or would y'all turn your boys in without knowing the truth? Tony has knowingly committed crimes and shown high tendencies of being a db but he gets a pass? Civil war was entirely his fault.

Iron Man tore the Avengers apart. Tony gets praised for being a supposed genius yet lacks the ability to think coherently in times of pressure. Why won't Tony come up with a way to stop Bucky from being susceptible to brain washing? I mean, Tony is a genius supposedly right?

 

[everysingletime]

Cap is the most loyal one out of the Avengers. His best friend is being framed, brain washed and everything, and he goes all out to help his friend. How many of y'all would do that? Or would y'all turn your boys in without knowing the truth? Tony has knowingly committed crimes and shown high tendencies of being a db but he gets a pass? Civil war was entirely his fault.

Iron Man tore the Avengers apart. Tony gets praised for being a supposed genius yet lacks the ability to think coherently in times of pressure. Why won't Tony come up with a way to stop Bucky from being susceptible to brain washing? I mean, Tony is a genius supposedly right?

I would rep this but I'm out of reps.

Damn you, RFX

 

[rfx45]

Marvel's 'New Warriors,' With Squirrel Girl, Ordered Straight-to-Series at Freeform

'Cougar Town' grad Kevin Biegel is near a deal to pen the script and serve as showrunner on what will be Marvel's first live-action scripted comedy.
Marvel is expanding its relationship with Freeform and getting into the comedy space.

In a competitive situation with other cable and streaming outlets bidding, the younger-skewing Disney-owned cable network has handed out a straight-to-series order for New Warriors, the comic book powerhouse's first 30-minute live-action comedy. Cougar Town and Scrubs alum Kevin Biegel is near a deal to pen the script and serve as showrunner on the comedy.

The 10-episode comedy will launch in 2018 and marks Marvel's second straight-to-series order at Freeform. It will join drama Cloak and Dagger at the Tom Ascheim-led cable network. The latter, starring Olivia Holt and Aubrey Joseph, is not expected to premiere until winter 2018. Casting will begin shortly.

New Warriors revolves around six young people with powers living and working together. With powers and abilities on the opposite end of the spectrum of The Avengers, the New Warriors want to make a difference in the world...even if the world isn't ready. With Freeform focused on a group dubbed "becomers" — those experiencing a series of firsts in life, including first loves and first jobs — New Warriors explores the journey into adulthood, except in this world, they're not quite super and not yet heroes and the guys can be as terrifying as bad dates.

The series will feature Marvel fan-favorite "Squirrel Girl" (aka Doreen Green) as a totally empowering fan girl who is described as tough, optimistic and a natural leader. Doreen is confident and has the powers of a squirrel: she's acrobatic, can fight and talk to other squirrels. Her most important trait is said to be her faith in people and ability to teach them to believe in themselves.

"Freeform's mission is to deliver incredible content to young adults and Marvel Television seamlessly aligns with that mission — we couldn't be more proud to collaborate with them on Marvel’s New Warriors,” said Karey Burke, exec vp programming and development at Freeform.

New Warriors hails from Marvel Television and ABC Studios' cable arm ABC Signature. Marvel head of TV Jeph Loeb and Jim Chory will exec produce alongside Biegel.

"Marvel's New Warriors have always been fan favorites and now particularly with the addition of Squirrel Girl, they are Marvel Television favorites as well," Loeb said. "After the amazing experience we've had with Freeform on Marvel’s Cloak & Dagger we can't think of a better place for our young heroes."

New Warriors comes as Marvel continues to expand its TV footprint. In addition to ABC's Agents of SHIELD — its first live-action scripted series — the comic book company also has The Inhumans (a straight-to-series drama set to debut in Imax theaters in a groundbreaking deal) set to debut in the fall on ABC. Beyond that, Marvel has a slate of shows at Netflix including Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, mini-mashup The Defenders as well as The Punisher. The company just scored a second season for FX's X-Men take Legion and has a Matt Nix pilot in the works at Fox, with Amy Acker attached, as well as a take on its beloved Runaways, starring Gregg Sulkin.

Biegel, meanwhile, has been a longtime Marvel and Squirrel Girl fan. His credits include The Real O'Neals and Enlisted. He's repped by UTA.

For Freeform, New Warriors joins a slate that includes Baby Daddy, The Fosters, Shadowhunters, Stitchers, Switched at Birth, Young and Hungry, Beyond, Famous in Love, Alone Together and The Bold Type.

Below, Burke talks with The Hollywood Reporter about what to expect from New Warriors as well as how it fits in at Freeform.

How competitive was this?

It was super competitive as everything is right now. We were already in business with Marvel on Cloak and Dagger, which was our first foray with them. We had chased Squirrel Girl before Cloak and Dagger and Marvel had said they would let us know when they were ready to do something with it. Our head of development wore her Squirrel Girl hat in the pitch, which may have put us over the top. We've been longtime fans.

What makes this the right show for Freeform?

The more we got to know Marvel and the more comfortable they got with us as the home for their young adult IP, these conversations became easier. They started to see our strength with young adults and together we could create a pipeline for content that was specific to our audience that felt younger than what they're doing at the other channels. I wanted to be in business with Marvel when I first got here but I didn't want to chase them just to chase them. It was important to both of us to find the right characters that felt like they would speak directly to Freeform's audience. The Avengers wouldn't work here but the about-to-be-Avengers works here.

How will New Warriors fit in with the Freeform brand? What does this mean for older, aging multicam shows like Baby Daddy and Young and Hungry? Are you making a single-cam push?

I love Baby Daddy and Young and Hungry and believe in multicam comedy. I believe these single-cam broader and ballsier concepts in comedy can live alongside those. It may be that we do another night or that we have a night of branded comedy that starts multicam and goes to single-cam. But I believe we can have both. This represents an evolution. It's not that we're shifting away from something, but toward something that is important. It's louder. Cable comedies, the hallmark ones, have been single-camera. They've been more conceptually distinctive. Knowing that was one of our strategies, this was an easy reach for us. We have another single-cam that we're starting production on, Alone Together, from Andy Samberg and his company. These shows feel like they belong together. We are a network for young adults but we're proud we're No. 1 with young women and we want to find characters who speak to them. There's a reason we chased Squirrel Girl: she embodies all of that.

Is the plan for Cloak and Dagger still winter 2018? Will these shows launch at the same time? Could they air on the same night? Maybe Alone Together and New Warriors leading Cloak and Dagger?

Yes, still winter 2018 for Cloak and Dagger. But that's not a bad idea. We're modeling schedules now as we head into the upfront [on April 19]. That is one alternative. Or we may stick with a comedy night and a drama night as originals that we're doing now. Or we could not pair them together and have a Marvel comedy on the comedy night and Cloak and Dagger as part of the drama night.

Marvel likes to say that "everything is connected." Will Cloak and Warriors be connected the way, say, Agents of SHIELD and Agent Carter were?

It's a great question. If you know these two properties, they're not particularly connected. There are many degrees of separation with where they fall in the Marvel universe. But anything is possible with Marvel. Their tones are so wildly different. Cloak is this angst-filled achingly beautiful heartfelt romantic drama. And Squirrel Girl is a balls-out comedy.

What was Kevin Biegel's take on the property?

We were big fans of Enlisted and were excited when Marvel put him together. Marvel and ABC Studios had made that marriage before it came to Freeform. He has a great love for all the characters that are populating the show around Squirrel Girl. He has a deep respect for Squirrel Girl. Her greatest weapon is her optimism — and this is a character who could easily be made fun of — but she's written so lovingly that we were thrilled when he was packaged with it. When he came in and pitched it, he understood her importance in the world and as hopefully an iconic heroine for audiences.

A few actresses have been vocal about wanting the role of Squirrel Girl — Anna Kendrick and Stranger Things breakout Shannon Purser. Are you looking for an established actress?

Those names have come up! This network has made a lot of stars and we're in a unique position with Squirrel Girl and Marvel. The character is such a calling card. I'm interested to see if name actresses feel right for it.

What can you say about the other characters who comprise the New Warriors?

You'll have to wait and see. We know who they are but I'm not at liberty to say.

Netflix created its own Marvel universe with Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Iron Fist and Luke Cage, and then the super mashup with The Defenders. In success, is there a way New Warriors would lead to spinoffs in sort of the reverse of what Netflix has done?

Absolutely. The characters they've chosen are all really singular and could each carry the show that they're on. They're bound together as a band of underdogs for as long as we choose with this show but it's conceptually tailor-made for spinoffs.

 

[rfx45]

look away Amel, take a break from the thread...

Happy BDay to Ms Atwell
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[Fozz]

She's so on my list.

 

[IATT]

Tony gets praised for being a supposed genius yet lacks the ability to think coherently in times of pressure.

lacks the ability to think coherently in times of pressure?

who had to come up with a plan of what to do with the flying landmass at the end of AOU again?

who had to come up with a plan of what to do with a nuke at the end of A1?

who was able to build something that no man in the universe has while lugging around a car battery and under constant threat from a terrorist organization?

Why won't Tony come up with a way to stop Bucky from being susceptible to brain washing? I mean, Tony is a genius supposedly right?

was tony given the chance to come up with something?

did this happen in some special edition of civil war that only you saw?

yall captain scumbag riders really some laughable dudes.. yall expecting someone to solve a problem they had zero clue even existed

 

[everysingletime]

Aye this thread out of control

 

[IATT]

this is the most telling interaction between tony vs scumbag steve:

Steve Rogers: I know guys with none of that worth ten of you. I've seen the footage. The only thing you really fight for is yourself. You're not the guy to make the sacrifice play, to lay down on a wire and let the other guy crawl over you.

Tony Stark: I think I would just cut the wire.

Steve Rogers: Always a way out... You know, you may not be a threat, but you better stop pretending to be a hero.

no wonder the only solution scumbag steve could come up with in first avenger was to take a nose dive into the ice.. couldn't just admit the truth about himself and tell ms atwell he wasn't interested

no wonder @amel223  is such a big fan

 

[rfx45]

Aye this thread out of control

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[yankeesking92]

lacks the ability to think coherently in times of pressure?

who had to come up with a plan of what to do with the flying landmass at the end of AOU again?

who had to come up with a plan of what to do with a nuke at the end of A1?

who was able to build something that no man in the universe has while lugging around a car battery and under constant threat from a terrorist organization?




was tony given the chance to come up with something?

did this happen in some special edition of civil war that only you saw?


yall captain scumbag riders really some laughable dudes.. yall expecting someone to solve a problem they had zero clue even existed

Why don't you respond to everything that I wrote except bits and pieces. You sure you're not a Trump supporter? Your alternative facts would get you a job on Fox asap.

I thought Tony could do everything, so he definitely had a chance to come up with something. Tony only built what he built because it's already what he has been doing for years, building weapons of mass destruction! He's nothing like his father, he's a disappointment. Tony's arrogance is what made him act the way he did when he was younger and didn't show any compassion towards his father and later regretted it. He's no hero, he's a zero.

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

who was mooching off of who again?

 

[Fresh Like Will]

Miss Atwell. My goodness.