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HONESTLY, it depends on who the parent(s) is/are. there are far too many variables involved to make a blanket statement like the ones you keep making.
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I doubt anybody will answer you. But yeah we are dealing with systematic racism. A system designed with racism as it's core policy. Money is made off of dividing people so yeah.Originally Posted by Dathbgboy
Quick question, anybody in here familiar w/ Apartheid?
And as far as the folks yelling for their country back...I think that smooth went over peoples heads.
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Black people can't be racist though. Racism is an institutionalized, social, economic, legal, political control over others due to being a minority whether that's race or ethnicity. How can black people be racist when we're the minority? Black people do not have an economic, political, and/or legal hold to the extent where they can control others.
Especially and specifically in America.
It's obvious yall confusing prejudice with racism. Anyone can be prejudice.
Especially and specifically in America.
It's obvious yall confusing prejudice with racism. Anyone can be prejudice.
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note where i said "there are exceptions to the rule". Drugs are straying away from the foundation that's been handed to them on that silver platter. nobody forcing a needle into their parents arm, that was their parents conscious choice to do so. and black people make it out of neglectful homes everyday, again not an excuse. there is still no reason to be homeless!
honestly there's no reason for anybody to be homeless period, seek the necessary things provided and work for a better life. with that, this country does provide white people with more oppurtunities than the rest of us.
There's no doubt white people have more opportunities and sure, you added that there are exceptions to the rule. There is nothing just about that.
My point is that it is reality...there are homeless people everywhere and it is not as easy or idealistic as you make it out to be. But to say that you wouldn't give money to a white homeless person (YOU specified, you did not say ANY homeless person) because white people are living a video game life served on a silver platter is just wrong.
You're generalizing regardless of your simplistic exceptions to the rule statement and that is unjust.
From what Nat Turner said earlier, my conclusion is "I DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST, I'M BLACK. I CAN'T BE UNJUST."
And the analogy wasn't meant to be used as a video game life, yall read it wrong. It was meant to be said as, if going in to something, you already have the upper hand. there's no reason you "should" lose." just like if I have never played a video game and you have AND you have cheat codes on, how do you not win?
and i agree with the reality of things, but in an argument. people rarely speak in reality, they speak in 100%'s to either prove their point or disprove another persons point. yes, i feel that white people are born more privelaged than I am and I also feel taht I have the right to use that as a reason to not give them money I have worked for because they are homeless.
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Everyone is prejudice, though.
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Breakyaneck3000 wrote:
note where i said "there are exceptions to the rule". Drugs are straying away from the foundation that's been handed to them on that silver platter. nobody forcing a needle into their parents arm, that was their parents conscious choice to do so. and black people make it out of neglectful homes everyday, again not an excuse. there is still no reason to be homeless!
honestly there's no reason for anybody to be homeless period, seek the necessary things provided and work for a better life. with that, this country does provide white people with more oppurtunities than the rest of us.
There's no doubt white people have more opportunities and sure, you added that there are exceptions to the rule. There is nothing just about that.
My point is that it is reality...there are homeless people everywhere and it is not as easy or idealistic as you make it out to be. But to say that you wouldn't give money to a white homeless person (YOU specified, you did not say ANY homeless person) because white people are living a video game life served on a silver platter is just wrong.
You're generalizing regardless of your simplistic exceptions to the rule statement and that is unjust.
From what Nat Turner said earlier, my conclusion is "I DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST, I'M BLACK. I CAN'T BE UNJUST."
And the analogy wasn't meant to be used as a video game life, yall read it wrong. It was meant to be said as, if going in to something, you already have the upper hand. there's no reason you "should" lose." just like if I have never played a video game and you have AND you have cheat codes on, how do you not win?
and i agree with the reality of things, but in an argument. people rarely speak in reality, they speak in 100%'s to either prove their point or disprove another persons point. yes, i feel that white people are born more privelaged than I am and I also feel taht I have the right to use that as a reason to not give them money I have worked for because they are homeless.
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Where does this definition come from?
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note where i said "there are exceptions to the rule". Drugs are straying away from the foundation that's been handed to them on that silver platter. nobody forcing a needle into their parents arm, that was their parents conscious choice to do so. and black people make it out of neglectful homes everyday, again not an excuse. there is still no reason to be homeless!
honestly there's no reason for anybody to be homeless period, seek the necessary things provided and work for a better life. with that, this country does provide white people with more oppurtunities than the rest of us.
There's no doubt white people have more opportunities and sure, you added that there are exceptions to the rule. There is nothing just about that.
My point is that it is reality...there are homeless people everywhere and it is not as easy or idealistic as you make it out to be. But to say that you wouldn't give money to a white homeless person (YOU specified, you did not say ANY homeless person) because white people are living a video game life served on a silver platter is just wrong.
You're generalizing regardless of your simplistic exceptions to the rule statement and that is unjust.
From what Nat Turner said earlier, my conclusion is "I DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST, I'M BLACK. I CAN'T BE UNJUST."
And the analogy wasn't meant to be used as a video game life, yall read it wrong. It was meant to be said as, if going in to something, you already have the upper hand. there's no reason you "should" lose." just like if I have never played a video game and you have AND you have cheat codes on, how do you not win?
and i agree with the reality of things, but in an argument. people rarely speak in reality, they speak in 100%'s to either prove their point or disprove another persons point. yes, i feel that white people are born more privelaged than I am and I also feel taht I have the right to use that as a reason to not give them money I have worked for because they are homeless.
but you are saying you refuse to give money to a homeless person because of his race and that sounds ok to you?
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Well when you just look at history you can see that it is true but I got this from college. Specifically in African American courses; majoring in A.A. history, literature, etc. I'd say any professor that knows the history would say something similar.
The basic idea of hating a group of ppl or the ill conceived notion that you're superior to them can only take you so far. What I just mentioned is the systematic way of keeping that control over them going above and beyond simple hate.
To an extent yeah but there are varying levels of it. Whether or not everyone is at a base level after realizing it that's when you're suppose to get rid of that mind frame.
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the only minority that is relevant to me in america is the minority that holds most of the wealth. and not just in america but in the international arena.
who would've thought that the richest man in the WORLD today would be mexican born?
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lol @ black people being exempt from racism.....I would venture as far as to say I've heard more racist #@$# said by black people in my personal life than any other race.
[h2]A Black Teen Beats Up A White Man For Listening To Rap Music?[/h2]
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The following story is almost too crazy to believe. But try and stay with me here.
In Palm Bay, Florida, a 14-year-old teenager is facing assault charges after he punched a 22-year-old man for—get this—listening to rap music. The incident occurred late last week when the juvenile, Joshuah Lamb, approached the white male, David McKnight, who was listening to Gucci Mane‘s hit song, “Wasted,
[h2]A Black Teen Beats Up A White Man For Listening To Rap Music?[/h2]
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The following story is almost too crazy to believe. But try and stay with me here.
In Palm Bay, Florida, a 14-year-old teenager is facing assault charges after he punched a 22-year-old man for—get this—listening to rap music. The incident occurred late last week when the juvenile, Joshuah Lamb, approached the white male, David McKnight, who was listening to Gucci Mane‘s hit song, “Wasted,
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*Just purchased shares of Orville Redenbacher*
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So...is it an "opinion-based definition"? Something that takes over to justify the viewpoint of people when the conventional definition only takes others so far?
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There are some really stupid people in this thread who are proud to me stupid. Thinking white people have it so much easier just makes your failures easier to swallow and helps you sleep at night.
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There's no doubt white people have more opportunities and sure, you added that there are exceptions to the rule. There is nothing just about that.
My point is that it is reality...there are homeless people everywhere and it is not as easy or idealistic as you make it out to be. But to say that you wouldn't give money to a white homeless person (YOU specified, you did not say ANY homeless person) because white people are living a video game life served on a silver platter is just wrong.
You're generalizing regardless of your simplistic exceptions to the rule statement and that is unjust.
From what Nat Turner said earlier, my conclusion is "I DON'T HAVE TO BE JUST, I'M BLACK. I CAN'T BE UNJUST."
And the analogy wasn't meant to be used as a video game life, yall read it wrong. It was meant to be said as, if going in to something, you already have the upper hand. there's no reason you "should" lose." just like if I have never played a video game and you have AND you have cheat codes on, how do you not win?
and i agree with the reality of things, but in an argument. people rarely speak in reality, they speak in 100%'s to either prove their point or disprove another persons point. yes, i feel that white people are born more privelaged than I am and I also feel taht I have the right to use that as a reason to not give them money I have worked for because they are homeless.
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White people do have it easier.....I mean this is clearly a generalization. But on average a white person in this country has it easier than a black person or other minorities. If you don't believe me I'll show you some stats correlating negative health outcomes with racism. Racism in this country is LITERALLY killing black people.
With that being said being black doesn't give anyone an excuse to be ignorant and stupid. The black struggle against racism is fraught with contradictions.
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So whats going on here?
Cliffnotes?
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"My friend made these comments so it's okay"
stop'
As for the "only whites can be racist" thing does this mean Mexicans and Blacks cannot be racist towards each other?
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I'm not disagreeing but instead of pointing out how hard it is, do something productive that sets you ahead. Anyone in this country can go to school and do well. And with decents grades, you can advance your education. It all starts there and unfortunately for many, ends there too.
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Class divisions, the erosion of the Middle Class and an ever expanding gap between those who have and those who don't is killing more people than white privilege.
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Originally Posted by ForeverDecember21
So whats going on here?Cliffnotes?
everyone can be racist/prejudice against each other.
but in the end, it's up to the INDIVIDUAL to correct the ignorance inside them before telling others what the "truth" is or what it should be.
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Didn't you read what Nat Turner posted? I mean for crying out loud he even posted an article that says it is impossible for Black people to be racist against anyone!
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No I don't think u heard me right....racism is literally killing black people. Take a black guy and a white guy in the same social class, the health outcomes for the white guy are significantly better.
Health outcomes do correlate with socioeconomic status, but when you control for class it becomes obvious that there is something about the constant threat of racism that takes it's toll on your body. They hypothesize that it is higher cortisol (stress) hormone levels amongst blacks that makes them susceptible to a long list of chronic illnesses and poorer health outcomes.
For example an educated, black woman of upper middle class has a higher chance of having a premature baby than a white high school drop out. The research assumed it was something inherent about the "black race" but then they did a study on first generation African immigrants and their outcomes were a lot better. However second generation African immigrants suffered the same fate as their African American counterparts.
they did similar studies with other chronic diseases that are more prevalent in blacks and found the same thing (lung cancer, heart disease, etc etc etc).
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Racism is simply a form of prejudice where once race believes they're intrinsically better than another. Being a racist is not defined as the act of suppressing another race. Those are actions. Racism is a belief. You can have a belief and not carry out the actions to go along with said belief for various reasons. You don't have the power to, the money to, fear of backlash because of societal norms, etc. So yes, black people can be racist.
