Why are you voting for Barack Obama? ...from a Republican

Originally Posted by bruce negro

I make less than 250,000, therefore I'll get a tax cut. I also don't want to have a President who at one point in the last four years said that our economy had a strong base, because it hasn't. Nor do I want a VP with roughly two years of experience in high office. I also want to be able to keep my healthcare, or choose from federal healthcare rather than just get a quick 5000 for the whole fam, when the average health insurance costs 12000. I don't want another President I can drink a beer with at a cookout, I want a President who can easily outsmart me in a conversation regarding the government and politics.


But that's just my take
Well said. I completely agree but also I have not seen John McCain mention the middle class one time in any of his appearances, their smeartactics are completely out of line, he says he's proud of every supporter at his rallies even though they shout to kill Barack Obama, and last I have neverseen McCain make an attempt to talk to the young voters at all or even the African American voting population. Every rally we ever see of McCain or Palin is insome rural town in Indiana, Pennsylvania, Virginia or Colorado and we all know what that audience consists of and it's not a mixed population. Believe itor not McCain will need some votes from people other than rural amercia. Barack has made an attempt to talk to everyone, somebody tell me if I'm wrong?
 
Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
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Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
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After how many months of this Presidential election and you still don't know the changes Obama has proposed? Where have you been? Nevertheless, here's a quick list that I can think of right this second:

Change in Foreign Policies

Change in Domestic spending instead of spending our Treasury in Iraq

Change in Income Taxation

Change in how we utilize our military

Change in health care affordability.

Change in immigration

Change in economic policies including tougher regulations

Change in strategies for the War against terror

Change in energy policies including more investments in clean alternative energy

Change in Stem Cell funding

Change in education funding and get rid of the No Child Left Behind act

I can continue on but you probably won't respond to me anyways.
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Originally Posted by btdpu

First off let me say that I am not trying to start a heated debate. I am simply asking a question. As a proud supporter of John McCain, I would like to know what is the reasoning behind your cast of ballot for Barack Obama? I will not reply with reasons why I think you're wrong, because lets be honest, does it really matter? I'm not going to change your view and you wont change mine. If your reasons are, "because Oprah supports him" or "because he's black" then fine. I just want to know. If you aren't voting or aren't 18, please dont add your 2 cents. I want views from people that are actually impacting this most important election. Thanks everyone.
Because he is the best candidate for presidency.
 
Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
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After how many months of this Presidential election and you still don't know the changes Obama has proposed? Where have you been? Nevertheless, here's a quick list that I can think of right this second:

Change in Foreign Policies

Change in how we utilize our military

Change in Domestic spending instead of spending our Treasury in Iraq
I agree with these two, but I don't agree with much else of Obama's plan. And change in domestic spending should mean starting toeliminate the national debt, not increase it with government programs. Where does the debt end? Nobody knows... And I for one am disgusted with the way thesepoliticians can just keep spending money like it's nothing.
Change in Income Taxation

Change in health care affordability.

What is so wrong with the plans in force right now? If you want something go get it. Live within your means. Not everyone can spend money likerock stars or athletes. If you want to make money, get a job. If you want to have health care, work for someone who has it or buy your own.
Change in immigration

Change in energy policies including more investments in clean alternative energy

If I'm not mistaken, both candidates have addressed these issues with their proposed plans.
Change in economic policies including tougher regulations

How so? Like how the democrats pushed for everyone to own their home and forcing banks to lend to sub primes to receive a tax break?
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Government shouldn't be involved with the free market at all. It hinders the invisible hand and promotes bad behavior.
Change in strategies for the War against terror

Change in Stem Cell funding
War against terror is like trying to chase ghosts. I think we should leave the middle east and worry about domestic issues. The reason theseradicals are attacking America is because we defend Israel. Stem Cell research isn't something I'm concerned with so I don't really have an opinionon that.
Change in education funding and get rid of the No Child Left Behind act
The program is a joke. It comes down to the parents to get the kids interested in school, not tax payers or government. If someone is going to bea knucklehead, it's a society issue that their parent or guardians need to address.
I can continue on but you probably won't respond to me anyways.
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Please do, any other changes?
 
I think we should leave the middle east and worry about domestic issues.
I agree, however I don't think McCain is even thinking about getting us outta of there. I served 13 years and I know we are not leaving Iraqanytime soon, no matter who gets in we will have a military presence there for a long long time. The question isn't how long but how much of a presence?




On a side note the avatar snap was comical
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because he wants to spread the wealth around, increase government size, increase socialism in the US, increase government debt, confuses his fancy rhetoric foran actual plan, has a cult like following, has such amazing insight to claim that he warned of all of these problems two years ago and is obviously the secondcoming of Christ himself. And oh, Oprah, Ludacris and Diddy support him.

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He can keep the change.
 
Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

...haven't made up my mind yet....but I'm leaning towards the big O.

and it's b/c neither McCain nor Obama are going to be fiscal conservatives...that much is obvious...so if gov't $$'s are going to be spent...I'd rather it spent on things that will help the general US population and the economy.


So Dirty you are for the redistribution of your wealth. and he didnt just say that in 2001, he told joe the plummer. come on mr dirty you are a smart man. hewill tax you regardles if you make 250k or more. we are all the rich peeps he is talking about. we have a job and he will tax your BEHIND to broke.
 
Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
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After how many months of this Presidential election and you still don't know the changes Obama has proposed? Where have you been? Nevertheless, here's a quick list that I can think of right this second:

Change in Foreign Policies TALK TO TERRORIST ON THEIR TERMS. AHHH OK

Change in Domestic spending instead of spending our Treasury in Iraq OK CUT AND RUN. CUT SPENDING FOR OUR TROOPS.

Change in Income Taxation HIGHER TAXES.

Change in how we utilize our military WOW JUST SEND THEM HOME AND LET OUR ENEMIES INVADE US.

Change in health care affordability. WELFARE FOR EVERYONE

Change in immigration F IT LET ALL ILLEGAL ALLIENS COME HERE. IM MEXICAN BY THE WAY.

Change in economic policies including tougher regulations REDISTRIBUTE EVERYONES MONEY AROUND CAUSE THEIR LAZY BEHINDS CANT WORK. AGAIN WELFARE FOR EVERYONE.

Change in strategies for the War against terror AGAIN TALK TO TERRORIST EXTREMIST ON THEIR ON TERMS.

Change in energy policies including more investments in clean alternative energy DONT DRILL EVER. AND DEPEND ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Change in Stem Cell funding HE IS FOR 4TH TRIMESTER ABORTION SO WHY STEM CELL.

Change in education funding and get rid of the No Child Left Behind act CHICAGO WORST DROP OUT STATE. OH WAIT HE DID ALOT THERE HUH

I can continue on but you probably won't respond to me anyways.
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Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

...haven't made up my mind yet....but I'm leaning towards the big O.

and it's b/c neither McCain nor Obama are going to be fiscal conservatives...that much is obvious...so if gov't $$'s are going to be spent...I'd rather it spent on things that will help the general US population and the economy.


So Dirty you are for the redistribution of your wealth. and he didnt just say that in 2001, he told joe the plummer. come on mr dirty you are a smart man. he will tax you regardles if you make 250k or more. we are all the rich peeps he is talking about. we have a job and he will tax your $+* to broke.
i don't know how much Dirty makes. but most working Americans are the target of Obama's tax plan.
 
Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
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After how many months of this Presidential election and you still don't know the changes Obama has proposed? Where have you been? Nevertheless, here's a quick list that I can think of right this second:

Change in Foreign Policies TALK TO TERRORIST ON THEIR TERMS. AHHH OK

Change in Domestic spending instead of spending our Treasury in Iraq OK CUT AND RUN. CUT SPENDING FOR OUR TROOPS.

Change in Income Taxation HIGHER TAXES.

Change in how we utilize our military WOW JUST SEND THEM HOME AND LET OUR ENEMIES INVADE US.

Change in health care affordability. WELFARE FOR EVERYONE

Change in immigration FK IT LET ALL ILLEGAL ALLIENS COME HERE. IM MEXICAN BY THE WAY.

Change in economic policies including tougher regulations REDISTRIBUTE EVERYONES MONEY AROUND CAUSE THEIR LAZY +%!ES CANT WORK. AGAIN WELFARE FOR EVERYONE.

Change in strategies for the War against terror AGAIN TALK TO TERRORIST EXTREMIST ON THEIR ON TERMS.

Change in energy policies including more investments in clean alternative energy DONT DRILL EVER. AND DEPEND ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Change in Stem Cell funding HE IS FOR 4TH TRIMESTER ABORTION SO WHY STEM CELL.

Change in education funding and get rid of the No Child Left Behind act CHICAGO WORST DROP OUT STATE. OH WAIT HE DID ALOT THERE HUH

I can continue on but you probably won't respond to me anyways.
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SMH, I'm curious to know how old you are.
 
Originally Posted by solesavage

Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
eyes.gif
After how many months of this Presidential election and you still don't know the changes Obama has proposed? Where have you been? Nevertheless, here's a quick list that I can think of right this second:

Change in Foreign Policies TALK TO TERRORIST ON THEIR TERMS. AHHH OK

Change in Domestic spending instead of spending our Treasury in Iraq OK CUT AND RUN. CUT SPENDING FOR OUR TROOPS.

Change in Income Taxation HIGHER TAXES.

Change in how we utilize our military WOW JUST SEND THEM HOME AND LET OUR ENEMIES INVADE US.

Change in health care affordability. WELFARE FOR EVERYONE

Change in immigration FK IT LET ALL ILLEGAL ALLIENS COME HERE. IM MEXICAN BY THE WAY.

Change in economic policies including tougher regulations REDISTRIBUTE EVERYONES MONEY AROUND CAUSE THEIR LAZY +%!ES CANT WORK. AGAIN WELFARE FOR EVERYONE.

Change in strategies for the War against terror AGAIN TALK TO TERRORIST EXTREMIST ON THEIR ON TERMS.

Change in energy policies including more investments in clean alternative energy DONT DRILL EVER. AND DEPEND ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Change in Stem Cell funding HE IS FOR 4TH TRIMESTER ABORTION SO WHY STEM CELL.

Change in education funding and get rid of the No Child Left Behind act CHICAGO WORST DROP OUT STATE. OH WAIT HE DID ALOT THERE HUH

I can continue on but you probably won't respond to me anyways.
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SMH, I'm curious to know how old you are.


WHY DO YOU CARE.
 
Originally Posted by thagreatj

My biggest reason is their stances on the War.
QFT i hate that the republicans cant take a L with this war! its impossible to fight forever and you cant scare people that want to die for theircause dude says that he wont pull out until we win, what the hell does that mean how do you win this kind of war we are not fighting a government we arefighting them (word to Katt)....
 
Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by solesavage

Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
eyes.gif
After how many months of this Presidential election and you still don't know the changes Obama has proposed? Where have you been? Nevertheless, here's a quick list that I can think of right this second:

Change in Foreign Policies TALK TO TERRORIST ON THEIR TERMS. AHHH OK

Change in Domestic spending instead of spending our Treasury in Iraq OK CUT AND RUN. CUT SPENDING FOR OUR TROOPS.

Change in Income Taxation HIGHER TAXES.

Change in how we utilize our military WOW JUST SEND THEM HOME AND LET OUR ENEMIES INVADE US.

Change in health care affordability. WELFARE FOR EVERYONE

Change in immigration FK IT LET ALL ILLEGAL ALLIENS COME HERE. IM MEXICAN BY THE WAY.

Change in economic policies including tougher regulations REDISTRIBUTE EVERYONES MONEY AROUND CAUSE THEIR LAZY +%!ES CANT WORK. AGAIN WELFARE FOR EVERYONE.

Change in strategies for the War against terror AGAIN TALK TO TERRORIST EXTREMIST ON THEIR ON TERMS.

Change in energy policies including more investments in clean alternative energy DONT DRILL EVER. AND DEPEND ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Change in Stem Cell funding HE IS FOR 4TH TRIMESTER ABORTION SO WHY STEM CELL.

Change in education funding and get rid of the No Child Left Behind act CHICAGO WORST DROP OUT STATE. OH WAIT HE DID ALOT THERE HUH

I can continue on but you probably won't respond to me anyways.
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SMH, I'm curious to know how old you are.


WHY DO YOU CARE.


Because you sound like you're 14. Some of your replies are so far fetched, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious.

Btw, I'd edit some of your asnwers if I were you.
 
Originally Posted by solesavage

Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by solesavage

Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
eyes.gif
After how many months of this Presidential election and you still don't know the changes Obama has proposed? Where have you been? Nevertheless, here's a quick list that I can think of right this second:

Change in Foreign Policies TALK TO TERRORIST ON THEIR TERMS. AHHH OK

Change in Domestic spending instead of spending our Treasury in Iraq OK CUT AND RUN. CUT SPENDING FOR OUR TROOPS.

Change in Income Taxation HIGHER TAXES.

Change in how we utilize our military WOW JUST SEND THEM HOME AND LET OUR ENEMIES INVADE US.

Change in health care affordability. WELFARE FOR EVERYONE

Change in immigration FK IT LET ALL ILLEGAL ALLIENS COME HERE. IM MEXICAN BY THE WAY.

Change in economic policies including tougher regulations REDISTRIBUTE EVERYONES MONEY AROUND CAUSE THEIR LAZY +%!ES CANT WORK. AGAIN WELFARE FOR EVERYONE.

Change in strategies for the War against terror AGAIN TALK TO TERRORIST EXTREMIST ON THEIR ON TERMS.

Change in energy policies including more investments in clean alternative energy DONT DRILL EVER. AND DEPEND ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Change in Stem Cell funding HE IS FOR 4TH TRIMESTER ABORTION SO WHY STEM CELL.

Change in education funding and get rid of the No Child Left Behind act CHICAGO WORST DROP OUT STATE. OH WAIT HE DID ALOT THERE HUH

I can continue on but you probably won't respond to me anyways.
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SMH, I'm curious to know how old you are.


WHY DO YOU CARE.


Because you sound like you're 14. Some of your replies are so far fetched, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious.

Btw, I'd edit some of your asnwers if I were you.


OH WAIT I FORGOT I HAD TO AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING YOU AGREE WITH. AND AS FOR MY ANSWER I DONT THINK THERE IS NOTHIING WRONG WITH WHAT I WROTE. THERE AREPEEPS ON HERE WRITING FAR WORSE STUFF THAN WHAT I PUT UP. NEXT TIME I WILL PM YOU FIRST BEFORE POSTING
 
Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by solesavage

Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by solesavage

Originally Posted by elgrenas

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by nnarum

Originally Posted by IndieSpice

Because the Republicans had 8 years with Bush, i think we need to try something new.
Like what? Change? What kind of change?
eyes.gif
After how many months of this Presidential election and you still don't know the changes Obama has proposed? Where have you been? Nevertheless, here's a quick list that I can think of right this second:

Change in Foreign Policies TALK TO TERRORIST ON THEIR TERMS. AHHH OK

Change in Domestic spending instead of spending our Treasury in Iraq OK CUT AND RUN. CUT SPENDING FOR OUR TROOPS.

Change in Income Taxation HIGHER TAXES.

Change in how we utilize our military WOW JUST SEND THEM HOME AND LET OUR ENEMIES INVADE US.

Change in health care affordability. WELFARE FOR EVERYONE

Change in immigration FK IT LET ALL ILLEGAL ALLIENS COME HERE. IM MEXICAN BY THE WAY.

Change in economic policies including tougher regulations REDISTRIBUTE EVERYONES MONEY AROUND CAUSE THEIR LAZY +%!ES CANT WORK. AGAIN WELFARE FOR EVERYONE.

Change in strategies for the War against terror AGAIN TALK TO TERRORIST EXTREMIST ON THEIR ON TERMS.

Change in energy policies including more investments in clean alternative energy DONT DRILL EVER. AND DEPEND ON EVERYONE ELSE.

Change in Stem Cell funding HE IS FOR 4TH TRIMESTER ABORTION SO WHY STEM CELL.

Change in education funding and get rid of the No Child Left Behind act CHICAGO WORST DROP OUT STATE. OH WAIT HE DID ALOT THERE HUH

I can continue on but you probably won't respond to me anyways.
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SMH, I'm curious to know how old you are.


WHY DO YOU CARE.


Because you sound like you're 14. Some of your replies are so far fetched, I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or serious.

Btw, I'd edit some of your asnwers if I were you.


OH WAIT I FORGOT I HAD TO AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING YOU AGREE WITH. AND AS FOR MY ANSWER I DONT THINK THERE IS NOTHIING WRONG WITH WHAT I WROTE. THERE ARE PEEPS ON HERE WRITING FAR WORSE STUFF THAN WHAT I PUT UP. NEXT TIME I WILL PM YOU FIRST BEFORE POSTING


Sounds good buddy. Next time, try proof reading.
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I'm picking Obama because I agree with his economic plan. I don't even understand why people are scared of this "redistribution of wealth"? Obama has clearly stated that he will be taxing people with 250k+ income. If you ain't making that much what are people afraid of? That has nothing to do with me and if I was making that much, I would be feeling blessed and wouldn't even trip about getting taxed a little more. My family had help from the government when I was growing up.
I voted Obama, but I don't like his economic plan. I think your thought process stops on one dimension of his tax cuts/hikes, depending on howyou look at it. Don't forget that a huge chunk of people who make 250k and above own a small business (that number is also gross income not net income).There is a thing called double taxation. Not only will these people have to pay high taxes from their personal income, but will have to pay higher taxes ontheir business, which hinders the growth of those wanting to expand their business to enter an upper echelon of income, in turn hurting jobs, and ultimatelycash flow.

Let's also not forget that a lot of these proposed policies still have to be passed by congress. A lot of these promises are a form of political jockeyingto get a vote. "All politicians lie" is not a cliche for no reason.

By the way, don't tell me everyone is like you and if you were to make that much money you'd be blessed. Heck, if it were that easy for people to feelblessed about their income, a lot more people would be like that and we wouldn't be in this crisis to begin with. Not a shot at you, b/c props to you ifyou are geniunine about that, but greed makes this world spin....not cash.
 
honestly...because i make less than 250K a year and would like to keep more of my money...need cheaper health care, i have two kids and dont live in the mostdesirebale side of town, so i need all schools to be equal, i also do not want social security privatized, as well i am pro choice...(if my daughter gets rapedand ends up pregnant i think that should be her decision). Overall i do not believe that tax breaks to major corporations is the key to revitlizing astruggling economy, you have to give the people more money to allow them to spend. Teachers deserve to be paid a hell of alot more. Thats why I am voting forhim...just a short list.
 
Originally Posted by elgrenas



WHY DO YOU CARE.

Because your one line responses to my list reeks of immaturity.
What is so wrong with the plans in force right now? If you want something go get it. Live within your means. Not everyone can spend money like rock stars or athletes. If you want to make money, get a job. If you want to have health care, work for someone who has it or buy your own.
The Bust tax cuts expire in 2010. A new tax plan needs to be enacted.

Its not that easy to make money. I don't know you nor do I know your background so I can only speak of my own experiences and the people I have met in mylife time.

For example back in the day I use to date a single mom with a baby and the baby's daddy was in jail. Someone like her needed assistance from the govtbecause they can't get a job and pay for child care at the same time. She wanted to go back to school yet can't afford to pay for child care. We canbe ignorant and say, girl is lazy for not getting a job but in her situation it wasn't feasible at that time. She eventually work things out with herbaby's daddy, went back to a school, got a degree and is making good $$. So don't tell me the system doesn't work. Sure there are exceptions toeverything but for you to generalize people to be lazy and sitting on their +#% waiting for that govt cheese every month is not fair to the people thatactually use and need the system for what it was meant for.

In regards to health care, you don't just decide one day to buy health insurance for the entire family while struggling to keep up with utility bills andmonthly rent. If it was just that easy, why are their over 50 million Americans today without any sort of health insurance? How many NTers can say they arecovered for health care right now? One of my clients, a auto repair shop who employs around 20 people just this month decided to stop providing healthinsurance because the company cannot afford the premiums anymore. Instead of laying off their staff, they decided to make this hard decision by not coveringmedical insurance anymore. So what are those 20 people going to do? Quit? I doubt that in this economy. They now belong in this category called UninsuredAmericans.
The program is a joke. It comes down to the parents to get the kids interested in school, not tax payers or government. If someone is going to be a knucklehead, it's a society issue that their parent or guardians need to address.
Yes No Child Left Behind is a joke. It discriminates many inner city schools because students cannot make the grades and pass selective exams forthe school to be funded. And again, I don't know you and I don't know how many educators you know but based on what my friends who are educators say,its not easy for certain students to get help from their parents.

My boy who is a middle school teacher tells me certain parents just do not care for their kids education. Some kids only have one parent some of whom have twojobs. How is that child able to get homework help, guidance, or be disciplined from a parent who has two jobs who is hardly home? Also some kids have abusivehomes. Some kids have drug addicted parents. Yes it does come down to the parents but if there are no parents to guide them then what? These kids get to beclassified as lazy? Unimportant? Lost cause? Like my boy said it all comes down to money. Govt funding provides more teachers to lessen crowded class rooms. Govt funding provides after school programs for kids to get off the streets. Govt funding provides school supplies, computers, musical instruments, books,etc. I mean if we live in a perfect yes all kids should have moms like my sister who spends 1-2 hours everyday proof reading my nephew's home work butwe're not in a perfect country and that is why its important for our public schools to receive these govt funds. These kids no matter what area they livein or what school they go to, they are our future and worth each and every penny the govt provides them.
 
Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

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McCain has Cancer. Theres a chance he wont survive for 4 year. If/when he passes away, Palin will be president.
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And we all know Palin.

Also, McCain mostly only supports the High Class. not the Middle/low. Barack supports all three classes. high, middle , low.

McCain wants to lower taxes for the higher class so with the extra money, they can hire workers so less people will be jobless
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does he really think they'll spend extra $ for more workers when there already doing fine the way they are?
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NO.

Correct me if im wrong.

Which i probaly am.
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There is a thing called double taxation. Not only will these people have to pay high taxes from their personal income, but will have to pay higher taxes on their business, which hinders the growth of those wanting to expand their business to enter an upper echelon of income, in turn hurting jobs, and ultimately cash flow.
I disagree with your explanation of double taxation. Double taxation means paying taxes on the same income which is usually only on dividendspaid from a corporation to its shareholders. The corporation cannot take a tax deduction on paid dividends therefore it is taxed and also taxed at theindividual level because the shareholders receiving that dividend has to report this income.

As far as salaries are concern, it is a deductible expense for businesses, therefore it reduces income.
 
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